Mega Rad Gun Thread

[Club Sandwich]

I mean, there you are. When the final step of a drill is mechanistically using the forward assist to smash the bolt closed regardless of the condition of the rifle, that could be a problem.

i'm not certain how you are jumping from "an attractive nuisance to avoid cleaning and proper understanding of the causes and ways to clear malfunctions, even in training." to "the SPORTS method stopped being used after 30+ years because one of the reasons for changing procedures was that the use of the forward assist could make a simpler stoppage worse". not even a decade ago there was a procedural change to immediate action regarding converted M4 carbines to M4A1 carbines because the selector, when between SEMI and AUTO would result in a stoppage with the trigger pulled, and an unintended discharge if the selector was moved to either SEMI or AUTO.

the SPORTS immediate action includes clearing the malfunction as the first step as well as observing the chamber for a failure to extract/eject or obvious debris. the forward assist was tapped only after allowing the bolt to naturally close home from the fully rearward position. in training, it was emphasized that the forward assist was to ensure the bolt was seated fully because a fouled chamber or debris could prevent that and possibly cause an out of battery detonation. the forward assist wasn't the final step of SPORTS either.

neither "avoiding cleaning" or "proper understanding of the causes and ways to clear malfunctions" had any role in dropping SPORTS. SPORTS was modified to C-SPORTS and an SOU was distributed by TACOM, and -12 and -15 TMs in the early 2000s. in that, the forward assist was modified into its own step, prior to Shooting. in the old procedure, tapping the forward assist was done twice - prior to extraction and then again prior to shooting.

maybe i'm not seeing what you're getting at because it sounds like you're making the argument that soldiers, et c were treating the forward assist as a "push button fix rifle" procedure on top of purposely not doing PMCS or observing the cause of the stoppage.

 

[HumptiDouji]

Just looked up the Camp Carbine. It's been discontinued for a while, I'd be going to gunbroker, but it does use 1911 mags so that's a plus for the ones I already have, and I could use those stupid long 15 rounders lol. Just look at it though, all that wood, absolutely sexy.

Camp Carbine, with both 9mm and .45, needs a buffer made of some synthetic (forget which, think it was the same material as used with the SPAS-12s), if you buy one, make sure to check that it's not an old and dried one, or the bolt will pulverize it and then start beating up the stock like it owes it money.
You can get replacement buffers very cheaply and easily these days, so it's not a big deal, just make sure to check. You couldn't get those for a very long time, thus why you often find them with a broken or missing stock, or an ugly nylon Choatee one which doesn't care about the buffer.

Phoned about a puppy we wanted after waiting a day for a reply to my message. He'd gone before I even saw the ad but the seller hadn't updated. Wife is crying.

Avoid puppy mills.

Also the plastic hull of a shell can get deformed from sitting in a box mag for too long, can cause feeding issues, etc.

Important observation. The classic shotgun shell really wasn't designed around a box magazine, fuck, it wasn't designed around magazines at all, it's just that the tube magazine is the one that works when you're looking at a paper hull, or these days, a plastic hull. Even that wasn't pain free, because specs varied far more back in the 1800s than they still do today.
There was actually a lot of sense in the Protecta shotgun being a big revolver.

I mean, there you are. When the final step of a drill is mechanistically using the forward assist to smash the bolt closed regardless of the condition of the rifle, that could be a problem.

You're such a smart boy.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Nope, they're not trying to set us up for failure; not one bit.

 

[White Devil]

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Nope, they're not trying to set us up for failure; not one bit.

Shouldn't have joined the military in 2016+7.

That being said, yeah that is a dick move but do you expect anything less from the ATF?


Edit:
Also if anyone is actually going to take advantage of the free tax stamp, SilencerShop's eForm 1 tax exempt version is ready. They are letting you do imported pistols as well.

 

[plgfarts]

Finally got around to buying an AR-15. A S&W M&P 15 Sport II. It was relatively inexpensive, and the $100 rebate they are currently running sold me.

Looking for a red dot, preferably around the same price as the rebate I will be receiving, +/-$25. So far, I've found the Sig Romeo MSR, and the Bushnell TRS-25. Anyone have any experience with either of these? I'm also open to suggestions if anyone knows of something better.

 

[White Devil]

Finally got around to buying an AR-15. A S&W M&P 15 Sport II. It was relatively inexpensive, and the $100 rebate they are currently running sold me.

Looking for a red dot, preferably around the same price as the rebate I will be receiving, +/-$25. So far, I've found the Sig Romeo MSR, and the Bushnell TRS-25. Anyone have any experience with either of these? I'm also open to suggestions if anyone knows of something better.

At the risk of sounding like a boomer, learn to shoot irons first before you dive into optics.

 

[likeacrackado]

At the risk of sounding like a boomer, learn to shoot irons first before you dive into optics.

Agreed. You can get a decent set of irons for well under $100. Maybe get a pair of magpul MBUS(the 3rd gens look better than the 2nds imo) for around $70 and save up for a better rds like a higher end holosun or aimpoint duty. There's plenty of metal irons for around $100 too, if you don't like polymer sights.

 

[Freedom Fighter]

Gave up on my old (pulled out of an abandoned garage) Marlin 60, messed with it a while ago, came to the conclusion the extractor was busted. Just wouldn't pull out the case.
Tinkered with it again today, cleaned and lubed it, started extracting occasionally, but would only pull out 2-3 rounds before failing and just slamming a round in to the back of the chambered one.

Switched to CCI (from aguila hollow points) and it extracted and ejected 10 in a row, no problems. Gonna actually take it to a range soon and test it for real, instead of just pulling the charging handle and kicking 22s out on to my carpet.

 

[Lord Cat Tree Stump]

Any piston lubrication suggestions (or any advice at all)? Currently running 147 gn loaded to 990 fps and am getting considerable particulate blowback. This build up was from only 2 24rd mags. Threads were wrapped in teflon tape btw.

Edit: Just say fuck it and run it dry and deal with the spring noise?

 

[Club Sandwich]

I've found the Sig Romeo MSR, and the Bushnell TRS-25.

both work well enough for most people, with the MSR being a bit more modern and rugged with good value - a similar option might be the Holosun HS403. the Bushnell TRS is old tech, but is simple and surprisingly durable for the money asked. a Vortex Sparc II might also be a worthwhile consideration if your budget can stretch a bit. consider matching batteries with some other device like a light or ones you already own in quantity to keep logistics simple.

remember, an optic is a shooting aid. it doesn't replace actual rifleman skills and a red dot can also be a detriment if you're shooting at a significant distance where just normal sights might be better due to finer target visualization.

getting considerable particulate blowback.

such is the nature of some suppressors. high pressure lithium grease works quite well for me with machineguns, and if you are running wet, consider switching to wire-pull lubricant like Ideal Clear-Guide instead which has less chance of forming a carbon soap and being spit back at you. the higher pressure of a suppressor on a pistol is unavoidable unless you're using some sort of delay mechanism like a stiffer recoil spring or something.

 

[DocAwe]

Finally got around to buying an AR-15. A S&W M&P 15 Sport II. It was relatively inexpensive, and the $100 rebate they are currently running sold me.

Looking for a red dot, preferably around the same price as the rebate I will be receiving, +/-$25. So far, I've found the Sig Romeo MSR, and the Bushnell TRS-25. Anyone have any experience with either of these? I'm also open to suggestions if anyone knows of something better.

I have both the Romeo5 and TRS-25.
Between the two get the Romeo unless the TRS is a screaming deal.
Primary Arms stuff is also generally well regarded.

 

[Lord Cat Tree Stump]

both work well enough for most people, with the MSR being a bit more modern and rugged with good value - a similar option might be the Holosun HS403. the Bushnell TRS is old tech, but is simple and surprisingly durable for the money asked. a Vortex Sparc II might also be a worthwhile consideration if your budget can stretch a bit. consider matching batteries with some other device like a light or ones you already own in quantity to keep logistics simple.

remember, an optic is a shooting aid. it doesn't replace actual rifleman skills and a red dot can also be a detriment if you're shooting at a significant distance where just normal sights might be better due to finer target visualization.


such is the nature of some suppressors. high pressure lithium grease works quite well for me with machineguns, and if you are running wet, consider switching to wire-pull lubricant like Ideal Clear-Guide instead which has less chance of forming a carbon soap and being spit back at you. the higher pressure of a suppressor on a pistol is unavoidable unless you're using some sort of delay mechanism like a stiffer recoil spring or something.

Ever consider writing a book? I’m stuck in fudd land and no one knows anything useful.

 

[Blasterisk]

Ever consider writing a book? I’m stuck in fudd land and no one knows anything useful.

Well before he finishes his excellent book, I heard that if you load your .45ACP really hot it'll actually bounce around inside of a human like a .22 will but it'll actually travel from your enemy's head all the way to their toes and back, up and down both legs. If you dremel and/or JB weld the bullet right it'll whistle the Star Spangled Banner in flight, too.

 

[Lord Cat Tree Stump]

Well before he finishes his excellent book, I heard that if you load your .45ACP really hot it'll actually bounce around inside of a human like a .22 will but it'll actually travel from your enemy's head all the way to their toes and back, up and down both legs. If you dremel and/or JB weld the bullet right it'll whistle the Star Spangled Banner in flight, too.

Ha. The interblags taught me this week that .223 can decapitate and decimate game but I will not besmirch the lords caliber

Edit: As someone who has recently begun reloading that is a whole different rabbit hole. Granted my progressive press reloads are are much more consistent than commercial but it was a long march

 

[White Devil]

Ha. The interblags taught me this week that .223 can decapitate and decimate game but I will not besmirch the lords caliber

Edit: As someone who has recently begun reloading that is a whole different rabbit hole. Granted my progressive press reloads are are much more consistent than commercial but it was a long march

Did you know that even a near miss from a .50 BMG is fatal? The shockwave will kill you. I've seent it.

 

[Lord Cat Tree Stump]

Did you know that even a near miss from a .50 BMG is fatal? The shockwave will kill you. I've seent it.

True facts

 

[Patrick Bait-man]

My prefered weapon of choice:

 

[Club Sandwich]

My prefered weapon of choice

are you sure?

 

[Patrick Bait-man]

are you sure?
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Not quite.

 

[SuperConglomerateWhale]

At the risk of sounding like a boomer, learn to shoot irons first before you dive into optics.

I agree with this. I finally took the dive into optics a few months ago after coming from shooting milsurp irons for many many years. Saving up for an RMR on my Walther.

Did you know that even a near miss from a .50 BMG is fatal? The shockwave will kill you. I've seent it.

You'll blowout 40 lungs from the crack of the bullet impacting.

Anyway, remember Chris Sfinas threatening to report people to the ATF for legal attachments? Nothing solid yet but people are now saying that braces are now banned at GTC, maybe soon we'll have more funnies.