Diseased Sanctioned Suicide - "Kill yourself" but unironically with sodium nitrite. Higher death count than the Farms. Targeted by parents, legislators, and journalists looking to alter Section 230.

[Throng of Titans]

Late to the "everyone gives their thoughts" part of the thread, but here goes anyway.

On one hand, I don't like the site at all, maybe they are tactful enough to not outright tell people to kill themselves, but they seem perfectly fine with people glorifying the idea, and there's that undercurrent that clearly thinks necking yourself is the ideal solution to a problem. Suicide, IMO at least, is almost never the answer (unless you're dying of a terminal illness or something and would rather go out with some dignity left).

On the other hand, they're not doing anything illegal as long as they are smart enough to not outright encourage people to off themselves, and them getting killed off or resulting in 230 getting taken away would be a disaster for free speech.

Simply, I don't like them, I wouldn't mind if they went down, but not at the cost of free speech or for bullshit reasons.

 

[Tree]

Tell your local congressman about this site. Not to take it down or anything, just if they want to do some good for their constituents.

 

[CB_]

It sounds like you should be talking to a therapist instead of blaming an obscure online forum for your child's death.

Your child was also an adult capable of making their own decisions, no one drove

It is not your fault your child commit suicide, not at all, but it is the parents fault for not monitoring their child's browsing habits on the Internet lol. Websites and games (unless their target audience is children) are not babysitters and are under no moral obligation to monitor children using their platform.


So a termite drops out of the wall and you think the problem is that one termite? Instead of questioning why this website exists, maybe you should question why your teen wants to browse this website in the first place. Maybe you should check in on your child's mental health? Your virtue is severely misplaced.

I find it disturbing that you imply you're a parent, because you don't seem to know the first thing about paying attention to your kids.


There is no real way to monitor and control the age of your user traffic, it just isn't technologically feasible. The most a website can do to confirm someone's age is require photo ID, but this is not foolproof.

1. Anyone can just snag their parents ID. A good example of this is ROBLOX's voice chat feature. In order to use VOIP on ROBLOX users are required to provide photo ID, as it's intended for adults. Yet when you go on games with VOIP enabled, a lot of people talking are minors.

2. Most people aren't going to trust uploading their photo ID online unless it's to a clearly reputable and popular platform.


It seems you wish the website didn't exist, so you're advocating for censorship - which is oppression. Bold move.

In order for that to work there would have to be some sort of system in place. So, how would this censorship system run exactly? Would you have an ideological purity test before people say things? Who are you going to pick to decide what things you can and cannot say? Pick someone to have complete dominion over your speech. Do it.

And before you say "I don't have to pick anyone or create the system" yes, you do. If this is how you want society to run, you have to have a system to run it. You can't just say "this is not okay to say" by fiat and just assume that everyone will agree with you for all time. There are other people in the world besides you. You have to pick principles that can be applied to everyone.

The funny thing is people who advocate for shit like this are perfectly happy with censorship/oppression as long as it's being applied to things they disagree with, but you know the instant it comes back around to bite them they would cry about it. Which, if you weren't getting my point, is exactly why a system of this nature does not exist and why censorship is bullshit. Don't advocate for censorship, advocate for staying in tune to your child's mental and physical health instead.

Shawn was 25. I’m voicing my concern because I have younger children and I know younger children are on the website.

 

[Prince Vegeta]

Shawn was 25. I’m voicing my concern because I have younger children and I know younger children are on the website.

So what are you doing to help them with their mental health? Aside from posting here.

 

[CB_]

Problem is, Chip isn't interested in these conversations, and I don't have serious conversations with those that deliberately take me out of context or blame me for things I have never done. I'm the big bad to them so everything I say is bad, so I don't waste my breath with those that thinks everything that comes out of my mouth is a lie, nor would it be helpful for me to talk to a parent that should be grieving, and not looking at places such as a suicide forum or anything around the subject.

I am more than willing to have an honest conversation with anyone, but attacking people and deliberately lying about them is a non-starter for me.

You aren’t about having any real conversations. You think your shit don’t stink and completely happy with how things are. Please share what ive taken out of context. The site as it sits is wrong. It should be completely hidden, signups vetted, real support available and chat between users prohibited for starters.

 

[afounder]

You aren’t about having any real conversations. You think your shit don’t stink and completely happy with how things are. Please share what ive taken out of context. The site as it sits is wrong. It should be completely hidden, signups vetted, real support available and chat between users prohibited for starters.

It's not my site anymore so you can directly your suggestions to the current admin.

 

[CB_]

It's not my site anymore so you can directly your suggestions to the current admin.

Answer the question. What was taken out of context.

 

[afounder]

Answer the question. What was taken out of context.

It's not an interrogation so I don't have to answer your questions. Almost everything that you have posted has no evidence backing it up, and what has been provided doesn't really prove a point as it was a back and forth, so stop playing victim.

I do want to bring up a point though. Administrators are not babysitters, nor do they want their sites to operate as a daycare center. It is unreasonable to hold SS to this tip top standard and not other sites with even more objectionable content, such as porn sites. The internet is not a daycare center and there are tons of parental filters and apps so there's really no excuse anymore.

 

[VasonJoorhees]

Shawn was 25. I’m voicing my concern because I have younger children and I know younger children are on the website.

Okay, and I told you why controlling this is not possible. Did you seriously not read what I said lol?

You aren’t about having any real conversations. You think your shit don’t stink and completely happy with how things are. Please share what ive taken out of context. The site as it sits is wrong. It should be completely hidden, signups vetted, real support available and chat between users prohibited for starters.

Oh okay you ignored me, got it. And you're saying he's the one that doesn't want to have a conversation? Self awareness level zero.

 

[Mr.Miyagi]

The site as it sits is wrong. It should be completely hidden, signups vetted, real support available and chat between users prohibited for starters.

Assuming you had complete control over Sanctioned Suicide, and all others involved in it simply vanished into puffs of smoke, what exactly would be the ideal state for it to exist in? Ignoring any technical hurdles and logistics of verifying users with 100% accuracy, what do you believe the site should look like? I'm not really sure what you mean by both preventing users from talking to each other, but also requiring sign-ups to utilize real support, as it no longer sounds like a forum. Would it be a site just to talk to licensed therapists online, but without anonymity?

 

[CB_]

It's not an interrogation so I don't have to answer your questions. Almost everything that you have posted has no evidence backing it up, and what has been provided doesn't really prove a point as it was a back and forth, so stop playing victim.

I do want to bring up a point though. Administrators are not babysitters, nor do they want their sites to operate as a daycare center. It is unreasonable to hold SS to this tip top standard and not other sites with even more objectionable content, such as porn sites. The internet is not a daycare center and there are tons of parental filters and apps so there's really no excuse

It's not an interrogation so I don't have to answer your questions. Almost everything that you have posted has no evidence backing it up, and what has been provided doesn't really prove a point as it was a back and forth, so stop playing victim.

I do want to bring up a point though. Administrators are not babysitters, nor do they want their sites to operate as a daycare center. It is unreasonable to hold SS to this tip top standard and not other sites with even more objectionable content, such as porn sites. The internet is not a daycare center and there are tons of parental filters and apps so there's really no excuse anymore.

So much for real conversation. You don’t know what to say. So you jump to porn and dismiss the significance of the discussion of suicide and try to justify that you can suck as an admin because you are not a baby sitter.

Okay, and I told you why controlling this is not possible. Did you seriously not read what I said lol?


Oh okay you ignored me, got it. And you're saying he's the one that doesn't want to have a conversation? Self awareness level zero.

I thought I was clear. Shawn was 25. I was not monitoring her websites. I did not know SS existed.

Assuming you had complete control over Sanctioned Suicide, and all others involved in it simply vanished into puffs of smoke, what exactly would be the ideal state for it to exist in? Ignoring any technical hurdles and logistics of verifying users with 100% accuracy, what do you believe the site should look like? I'm not really sure what you mean by both preventing users from talking to each other, but also requiring sign-ups to utilize real support, as it no longer sounds like a forum. Would it be a site just to talk to licensed therapists online, but without anonymity?

The argument has been made that there needs to be a safe space to discuss the topic without fear. I’m not opposed to that. Make it exactly that. There is no need for users private messaging and selling illegal substances or potential predators making plans to “meet” and die together. You can’t enforce the rules that way. Why treat it like some car forum.

 

[afounder]

So much for real conversation. You don’t know what to say. So you jump to porn and dismiss the significance of the discussion of suicide and try to justify that you can suck as an admin because you are not a baby sitter.

You're a failure of a parent if you want site administrator to treat their sites as daycare centers instead of putting basic parental controls on your children's devices. Parents need to understand that not every piece of communication is monitored or screened. There's a reason why there's so many parental apps out there. It is not our job to take care of your kids.

You had them so you can take care of them.

 

[Local Degenerate]

Newfags, double triple posting, and shitting up threads. Sounds about right. To jump into this half-cocked with barely any context, it seems Founder is in the right on this one. Don't let devices raise your kids. If you do, you give up your rights to cry about them being a tranny, or eating a tide pod, for clout or for death. And frankly, you should be jailed for manslaughter.

OT: I came into this expecting to call the site out for being an irresponsible shit heap since, well, ask pornhub how well telling minors not to enter works. But seeing how much actual thought was put into it, I'm pleasantly surprised. Quality of life trumps the imaginary 'sanctity' of life every fucking day of the week.

 

[Prince Vegeta]

The argument has been made that there needs to be a safe space to discuss the topic without fear. I’m not opposed to that. Make it exactly that. There is no need for users private messaging and selling illegal substances or potential predators making plans to “meet” and die together. You can’t enforce the rules that way. Why treat it like some car forum.

I don't know how SS works, aside from that it's a basic forum structure. You mean people private message each other on the forum to sell each other suicide materials? Or do you mean they post links in the threads to sites where you can buy stuff?

 

[CB_]

You're a failure of a parent if you want site administrator to treat their sites as daycare centers instead of putting basic parental controls on your children's devices. Parents need to understand that not every piece of communication is monitored or screened. There's a reason why there's so many parental apps out there. It is not our job to take care of your kids.

You had them so you can take care of them.

Never said anything about lack of parental controls. Who is it now that takes things out of context. Go in a hole somewhere. You already said you won’t answer questions.

I don't know how SS works, aside from that it's a basic forum structure. You mean people private message each other on the forum to sell each other suicide materials? Or do you mean they post links in the threads to sites where you can buy stuff?

They do both because mods are very loose on enforcing any of their written rules

 

[Manul Otocolobus]

I’m voicing my concern because I have younger children and I know younger children are on the website.

I truly pity those poor children, I really do. I can't imagine what it must be like to live with someone that doesn't stop harping on the same thing over and over and never shuts the fuck up. If that won't drive people to suicide, nothing will.

On another note, my plans to open takesodiumnitritetodie.com that exclusively sells sodium nitrite to anyone that can pay for it through any means possible, even if its by sending me a jug of pennies, without keeping any records of any kind, is going well.

 

[CB_]

I truly pity those poor children, I really do. I can't imagine what it must be like to live with someone that doesn't stop harping on the same thing over and over and never shuts the fuck up. If that won't drive people to suicide, nothing will.

On another note, my plans to open takesodiumnitritetodie.com that exclusively sells sodium nitrite to anyone that can pay for it through any means possible, even if its by sending me a jug of pennies, without keeping any records of any kind, is going well.

They are just fine thank you. Good luck getting me to shut up.

 

[afounder]

Never said anything about lack of parental controls. Who is it now that takes things out of context.

I took nothing out of context. Parents being proactive in making sure that their children's online experience is safe is much more helpful than removing features from a website. Neutering SS into a Betterhelp clone isn't going to help anything or suddenly make people less suicidal.

Instead of taking care of your children, you'd rather spar with a site administrator on a drama forum.

 

[Manul Otocolobus]

They are just fine thank you. Good luck getting me to shut up.

Yeah, just like you thought your other one was "fine" and we all know how that turned out...

 

[CB_]

I took nothing out of context. Parents being proactive in making sure that their children's online experience is safe is much more helpful than removing features from a website. Neutering SS into a Betterhelp clone isn't going to help anything or suddenly make people less suicidal.

Instead of taking care of your children, you'd rather spar with a site administrator on a drama forum.

Yeah, just like you thought your other one was "fine" and we all know how that turned out...

What is your SS user name again? I missed it.