Disaster AP: EPA chief at train derailment site: 'trust the government' - “I’m asking they trust the government. I know that’s hard. We know there’s a lack of trust,” Regan said. “We’re testing for everything that was on that train.”

EPA chief at train derailment site: 'trust the government'
Associated Press (archive.ph)
By Patrick Orsagos
2023-02-17 00:13:51GMT

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Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Michael Regan left, walks with his staff through East Palestine, Ohio on Thursday, Feb. 16, 2023. (Lucy Schaly/Pittsburgh Post-Gazette via AP)

EAST PALESTINE, Ohio (AP) — The head of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency got a first-hand look Thursday at the toll left by a freight train derailment in Ohio, where toxic chemicals spilled or were burned off, leaving the stench of fresh paint nearly two weeks later.

EPA Administrator Michael Regan, who walked along a creek that still reeks of chemicals, sought to reassure skeptical residents that say the water is fit for drinking and the air safe to breathe around East Palestine, where just under 5,000 people live near the Pennsylvania state line.

“I’m asking they trust the government. I know that’s hard. We know there’s a lack of trust,” Regan said. “We’re testing for everything that was on that train.”

“I have three grandbabies,” said Kathy Dyke, who came with hundreds of her neighbors to a public meeting Wednesday where representatives of railroad operator Norfolk Southern were conspicuously absent. “Are they going to grow up here in five years and have cancer?”

Since the derailment, residents have complained about headaches and irritated eyes and finding their cars and lawns covered in soot. The hazardous chemicals that spilled from the train killed thousands of fish, and residents have talked about finding dying or sick pets and wildlife.

Residents are frustrated by what they say is incomplete and vague information about the lasting effects from the disaster, which prompted evacuations.

“I have three grandbabies,” said Kathy Dyke, who came with hundreds of her neighbors to a public meeting Wednesday where representatives of railroad operator Norfolk Southern were conspicuously absent. “Are they going to grow up here in five years and have cancer?”

Regan said Thursday that anyone who is fearful of being in their home should seek testing from the government.

“People have been unnerved. They’ve been asked to leave their homes,” he said, adding that if he lived there, he would be willing to move his family back into the area as long as the testing shows it’s safe.

Those attending the previous night’s informational session had questions over health hazards and demanded more transparency from Norfolk Southern, which did not attend, citing concerns about its staff safety. Many who had waited in a long line snaking outside the high school gymnasium came away upset that they didn’t hear anything new. Some booed or laughed each time they heard the village mayor or state health director assure them that lingering odors aren’t dangerous.

“They just danced around the questions a lot,” said Danielle Deal, who lives a few miles from the derailment site. “Norfolk needed to be here.”

At least five lawsuits have been filed against the railroad, which announced this week that it is creating a $1 million fund to help the community while continuing to remove spilled contaminants from the ground and streams and monitoring air quality.

“We are here and will stay here for as long as it takes to ensure your safety and to help East Palestine recover and thrive,” Norfolk Southern President and CEO Alan Shaw said in a letter to the community.

Families who evacuated said they want assistance figuring out how to get the promised financial help. Beyond that, they want to know whether the railroad will be held responsible.

State and federal officials have promised to make sure Norfolk Southern not only pays for the cleanup but also reimburses residents.

The White House said teams from the federal health and emergency response and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention will go to East Palestine.

“We understand the residents are concerned — as they should be —- and they have questions. That’s all understandable,” said White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre. “And we’re going to get to the bottom of this.”

No one was injured when about 50 cars derailed in a fiery, mangled mess on the outskirts of East Palestine on Feb. 3. Officials seeking to avoid an uncontrolled blast evacuated the area and opted to release and burn toxic vinyl chloride from five rail cars, sending flames and black smoke billowing into the sky again.

The Ohio EPA said the latest tests show five wells supplying the village’s drinking water are free from contaminants.

At least, 3,500 fish, mostly small ones such as minnows and darters, have been found dead along more than 7 miles (11.2 kilometers) of streams, according to the estimates from the Ohio Department of Natural Resources.

Precautions are being taken to ensure contaminants that reached the Ohio River don’t make it into drinking water, officials said.

There have been anecdotal reports that pets or livestock have been sickened. No related animal deaths have been confirmed and the risk to livestock is low, Ohio officials said, but the state Agriculture Department is testing samples from a beef calf that died a week after the derailment.

The suspected cause of the derailment is a mechanical issue with a rail car axle. The National Transportation Safety Board said it has video appearing to show a wheel bearing overheating just beforehand. The NTSB expects to issue its preliminary report in about two weeks.
 
I still find it odd all the blame is toward the Biden administration and not the rail company. They are the main ones responsible considering they *own those trains* and ignored safety concerns. Yet I see conspiracy theories about how the government deliberately did this to punish a Trump voting town in the middle of nowhere.
The federal government and the media took nearly two damn weeks to acknowledge it. Even then, they tried to blame it on Trump over brake regulations he repealed.

Even though a) the NTSB said those rules, had they stayed, would not have applied to this train, because it had mixed cargo and wasn't considered "High Hazard Flammable", and b) the derailment was caused by a hotboxed axle, not a brake failure.

Biden's admin is trying to sweep this under the rug and use what-about-Trumpism to dodge fixing it. They clearly don't care about an ecological disaster when it happens to the damn dirty Deplorables.
 
The federal government and the media took nearly two damn weeks to acknowledge it. Even then, they tried to blame it on Trump over brake regulations he repealed.



Even though a) the NTSB said those rules, had they stayed, would not have applied to this train, because it had mixed cargo and wasn't considered "High Hazard Flammable", and b) the derailment was caused by a hotboxed axle, not a brake failure.



Biden's admin is trying to sweep this under the rug and use what-about-Trumpism to dodge fixing it. They clearly don't care about an ecological disaster when it happens to the damn dirty Deplorables.
That's funny because even CNN has been reporting on it as soon as it happened
 
The most sbocking thing out of all of this is finding out theres a palestine in Ohio

Probably because I thought it was actual Palestine. This is exactly the sort of response id expect from a 3rd world shithole for the government to say "do not concern citizen skin burning is normal back to home"
Well thats what is sort of interesting about this with a name like "Palestine" most of the NPCs hear that and think of a foreign place and pay no attention to this. Sort of feels deliberate doesn't it?
 
no i think its a good question to ask why conservatives are suddenly concerned with water pollution. of course i already know its because of the talking heads on twitter.
Yeah, you're just being a disingenuous shit if you want to forget that conservatives were appalled at the issues in Flint too.
Exactly - safety was precisely one of the grievances the rail workers brought up in their strike. What do you think the solution is? Maybe Nationalize the railways?
The solution is of course going to be breaking the unions so those uppity workers can't embarrass the uniparty again.
The only reason I don't think "the gubermint did it" is because it doesn't really make sense. Ohio is a battleground state, and while this did happen in an area that voted for Trump this will affect far beyond that area, and if that one NOAA picture is true then it affects neighboring blue states and even fucking Canada itself. Gassing your own voters, and potentially swinging an important state away from you doesn't seem like smart government policy. Now it would make better sense if they did it, and then swooped in to look like saviors but that doesn't seem to be happening.
Ohio isn't a battleground state so much anymore - the DNC sees it as a red state behind closed doors. and doesn't care if it gets fucked. They'd do the same to Iowa as well.
 
The most sbocking thing out of all of this is finding out theres a palestine in Ohio

Probably because I thought it was actual Palestine. This is exactly the sort of response id expect from a 3rd world shithole for the government to say "do not concern citizen skin burning is normal back to home"
Ohio has a lot of old world names for towns for some reason. Quick look at the map and you see there's Macedonia, Medina, Lebanon, New Salem, Frankfort, Athens, Vienna, Troy, Versailles, Sparta, Corinth, Rome
 
Well thats what is sort of interesting about this with a name like "Palestine" most of the NPCs hear that and think of a foreign place and pay no attention to this. Sort of feels deliberate doesn't it?
Actually, Jewish Israel black operatives blew up the train to hurt Palestine and this was just a big misunderstanding. That's what Ohio gets for such a stupid name, though.
 
Ohio has a lot of old world names for towns for some reason. Quick look at the map and you see there's Macedonia, Medina, Lebanon, New Salem, Frankfort, Athens, Vienna, Troy, Versailles, Sparta, Corinth, Rome
Lots of biblical and Greco-Roman town names.

Don't forget Lima, Dublin, New Paris, and Toledo. Cincinnati was also named for the Roman statesman Cincinnatus.
 
Lots of biblical and Greco-Roman town names.

Don't forget Lima, Dublin, New Paris, and Toledo. Cincinnati was also named for the Roman statesman Cincinnatus.
I'm gonna get a pack of niggas from Aequi and dump toxic waste barrels in Fountain Square.
 
What IS strange is how the white house is acting about it. You would think with election being next year the Biden admin would be jumping quickly to seem like a competent and benevolent administration. Even if what they say is true and that there is no risk to public health (LOL yeah right) it would look far better if they declared a emergency, and then found out even if its "wasted" money. Because if the inverse is true and this is truly an emergency while they keep dragging their feet.....well people aren't going to like that to say the least.
If they declare emergency they have to also investigate why it happened plenty of railroad workers said that Biden admin forced the railroad workers to work with new less safe conditions also investigate the company who dunnit which is probably one of their donators. They try to pretend isn't a big deal and everything is ok . Plus most affected are some 100k in red county everyone else will be temporary affected and whatever polution happens it will be lost in the background in few months
 
Actually, Jewish Israel black operatives blew up the train to hurt Palestine and this was just a big misunderstanding. That's what Ohio gets for such a stupid name, though.
Well thats what is sort of interesting about this with a name like "Palestine" most of the NPCs hear that and think of a foreign place and pay no attention to this. Sort of feels deliberate doesn't it?
“No, not that Palestine.”
“Fuck.”
 
no i think its a good question to ask why conservatives are suddenly concerned with water pollution. of course i already know its because of the talking heads on twitter.
a conservative is somebody who believes you can inhale chlorine and ingest arsenic and be fine, it's right there in the Republican Party platform

you are very smart and good at arguing
 
NVM guys it's all safe, the FDA says so.

This regime is either the most incompetent set of retard possible that have ever been gathered to govern a nation or are intentionally malicious. If we still had nuclear plants running and had a Chernobyl tier disaster I'd bet they'd rewrite the science on radiation and tell everyone your radiation sickness is a temporary side effect, just get the boosters for it bro!
 
"I'm from the government, I'm not here to help."

So, both Texas and Ohio now have been refused Federal Aid. How nice of them.

I want to see all of these people claiming the water is safe to drink, reach down with a cup and scoop out some water from a puddle and drink it.

First rule of survival in a catastrophic situation: Never drink from a puddle or body of water with no algae, insects, or other life. Whatever kills it will kill you.

It's Clown World.

Clown World all the way down.
Seems good enough reason for Ohio and Texas to kick federal agencies out of their state. Just in time for tax season, too.
 
I have been posting here for years. I know how they think.
I feel bad disagreeing with you after all the fun we had in the incel thread but we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I've only really gotten pushback on this board for being against nuclear energy and respecting women. The only other thing I know I'm in the minority about is my belief in human-caused global warming, but I haven't posted about that opinion yet.
I still find it odd all the blame is toward the Biden administration and not the rail company. They are the main ones responsible considering they *own those trains* and ignored safety concerns. Yet I see conspiracy theories about how the government deliberately did this to punish a Trump voting town in the middle of nowhere.
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The scum in charge of this railroad company should be marched to this town and dunked in the toxic creek until their skin peels off. I hate the government but I fucking hate corporations, who control the government, even more.
This take is also positively received. I am convinced that both sides want to eat the rich.
Also all the concern for poisoned water evaporated when I brought up fracking. Probably because it benefits big corporations. If people are going to be inconsistent like that and just parrot the shit I'm already seeing from all the conservative influencers, then yes, I would say thats partisan shilling
I agree with a lot of what @NeoGAF Lurker brought up in his rebuttal with the only criticism that he wasn't likely to win you over with how rude he was. I'd also like to add to the conversation that miners and frackers are required by the EPA to manage their mineral plume and prevent it from entering drinking water reserves. I have observed the anger is pretty universal when the system breaks down and a company gets away with poisoning drinking water (e.g. Flint Michigan). A&N is also quite livid at California, where many residents are forced to live without any drinking water, while their reservoirs are redirected towards almond trees and lawns in LA. Finally, I think earthquakes are a larger concern with fracking because it lubes up the earth's crust and makes things all loosey-goosey.

That being said, the energy company political lobbyists that donate to the Republican party mostly donate to the GOP establishment, which I'll continue to insist is widely hated. I constantly see people angry that their only platform is tax cuts while this country falls apart.
I've been complaining about politispergs for awhile now. I must be making some people very upset their hugbox is being violated if I'm getting multiple people ragepost on my profile.
This is a fair point. Following someone around and constantly raging at them is lolcow behavior. Although, I suspect the users who follow you around to rage-rate your posts and comment on your profile are, in fact, the incels of the board. Hell hath no fury like that of an incel laughed at by a natal woman.
 
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