Careercow Jack Russell Scalfani / Cooking With Jack / Jack on the Go Show / jakatak - YouTube "Celebrity" "Chef", Living Encyclopedia of Gluttony-Induced Maladies, Salmonella Elemental

[Trig.Point]

Not sure if you watched Binging with Babish before (highly recommend you do if you haven't, his editing is clean and the vids are well paced. Very, well, bingable), but what he would do is take the general premise and try to make a good thing out of the idea. In this case, either make a savory jello (redeem the recipe) or make a literal party cheese salad (as in a salad with a decent amount of cheese meant to be shared at a party).

Probably for the best as far as Babish's career is concerned to not do so, though.

Andrew Rea (Babish) like most food successful food YouTubers worked in film production before getting into YouTube and had the contacts and media savvy to make it work. His schtick initially was recreating food from the movies, however anybody that's watched the film 'The Menu' and then watched him trying to recreate the hamburger from it, will see the theme of that movie went completely over his head.

Adam Ragusea is another one, brilliant sound and video, but with meh recipes and who has recently started to take joy in fucking with traditional food(watch him make an Irish Stew with beef and tomato paste, while taking pleasure at sneering at people who he knows are going to point out it's not actually an Irish Stew). He built his audience and is now making videos about how Mario Batali (who was accused of repeated sexual assaults) is the same as JK Rowling.

Jack is a bad chef/person/YouTuber... however lets not pretend that people with more polished production and cooking skills are somehow his moral superior.

 

[Tiresome]

Andrew Rea (Babish) like most food successful food YouTubers worked in film production before getting into YouTube and had the contacts and media savvy to make it work. His schtick initially was recreating food from the movies, however anybody that's watched the film 'The Menu' and then watched him trying to recreate the hamburger from it, will see the theme of that movie went completely over his head.

I cooled on the entire Babish schtick when he tried to make Homer Simpson's caramel-liquid smoke waffles as if it was a recipe that would work in real life or should even be repeated.

 

[ZipDisk]

I fucking hate how Babish makes bread in almost every fucking video. We get it, you own a stand mixer.

 

[densedance]

Ragusea is an arrogant cock that made a video being condescending towards Marco Pierre White. Meanwhile he couldn't survive a day in a semi-professional kitchen that wasn't even in a full Service..

Babish is one of those guys that "Okay guys, today I make a traditional Carbonara. First let me add (all the stuff that is basically not traditional by 10 miles away). But he knows he can get away with his audience, so he doesn't care.

 

[ZipDisk]

I like Ragusea's fucking nerditry. I didn't know that iodide was added to salt to fight cretinism, and the bullshit Kosher Salt trend may bring it back.

 

[Trig.Point]

I fucking hate how Babish makes bread in almost every fucking video. We get it, you own a stand mixer.

A lot of bread making YouTubers got a start during lockdown when it was becoming popular. However it was only for a short while before snakes like Babish and Ragusea got the hint and started gaming the algorithim.

You can always tell solid bread makers on YouTube because they'll have recipies that use all purpose flour, rather than bread flour. Like this one, she got 2.5 million views during lockdown, then she got the thumbs down from YouTube and had her channel killed off.

 

[80's Dad]

I've been away from the Farms for nearly the last week, and have come back to Jack's latest episode. Allow me to preface this with sticking to my 'live forever out of spite' vote, but with the addendum 'how much life could he possibly have left in him?'

In a way, it's kind inspiring. Not in the whole, 'He turned things around for himself, maybe I should follow his lead and do better too', but in the whole, 'Holy shit, this is the kind of thing I don't want to suffer. I need to start taking better care of myself and lose weight while I still can.'

Once you start taking steps towards losing weight and getting healthier, you realize it's the easiest thing. On one hand, you get to see the results and are proud of your commitment to bettering yourself. On the other, it makes you jaded towards people like Jack or Amberlynn, towards the average bowling ball shaped human you see at the mall. It truly is down to self control and making good decisions, day after day. There is absolutely no reason for an average size person to weight 250+ pounds. The fact that we treat it as normal is disgusting and a little maddening, tbh.

PL: I lost 50 lbs last year without completely revamping my lifestyle or going on a strict diet, or even stepping foot in the gym. Just cutting back portions, cutting back on the alcohol, and going for a decent walk/hike sometimes when the weather's nice.

 

[Trig.Point]

Once you start taking steps towards losing weight and getting healthier, you realize it's the easiest thing. On one hand, you get to see the results and are proud of your commitment to bettering yourself. On the other, it makes you jaded towards people like Jack or Amberlynn, towards the average bowling ball shaped human you see at the mall. It truly is down to self control and making good decisions, day after day. There is absolutely no reason for an average size person to weight 250+ pounds. The fact that we treat it as normal is disgusting and a little maddening, tbh.

PL: I lost 50 lbs last year without completely revamping my lifestyle or going on a strict diet, or even stepping foot in the gym. Just cutting back portions, cutting back on the alcohol, and going for a decent walk/hike sometimes when the weather's nice.

Portion control is key, together with being able to cook for yourself.

A few years back, I was a bit of a fatty, then I started cooking everything I ate from scratch. The day I sat down to a meal of roasted potatoes, carrots, peppers and garlic (which was pretty good) was a milestone for me... I got healthier, more energy, started doing more exercise, however I didn't lose weight until I learned portion control and started weighing everything I ate... oh and switched from cider to vodka.

I like Ragusea's fucking nerditry. I didn't know that iodide was added to salt to fight cretinism, and the bullshit Kosher Salt trend may bring it back.

Mate don't buy into his bullshit, he's a former shit tier college lecturer who's used to keeping his students engaged by throwing interesting facts at them.

 

[ZipDisk]

I totally buy that even cooking at a fast food restaurant would overwhelm and break him.
I took a job at a deli to see if I wanted to cook for a living, and turns out, Nope! I fucking hated it.

 

[Falcon Sebben]

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We can only hope but so far... no such luck.

I don't think it's possible to make a good version of the Party Cheese Salad since it's a bunch of random shit thrown together then tossed in a fridge to solidify and cut into bars. If you go for a more salad approach, you'll be cutting out the jello and cream cheese, if go heavy in the solid bar direction, it's no longer a salad. It's basically going to be a mess or something entirely different.

With everything in it? No. It's horrific. But if you take some of those elements and flavors then I'm sure you could come up with something edible or even good.

Like you take the celery, pepper, pecans and swap out the lemon jello with lemon juice you have the base for a salad. Add some tomatoes, lettuce, sweet red onions and so on and it could work. Or maybe if you sauteed them in a pan with some ginger, garlic and soy sauce going for some Asian type dish. Maybe add some carrots, mushrooms and so on you could do some kind of stir fry.

But the Party Cheese Salad itself? It's horrific.

 

[stupidpieceofshit]

Andrew Rea (Babish) like most food successful food YouTubers worked in film production before getting into YouTube and had the contacts and media savvy to make it work. His schtick initially was recreating food from the movies, however anybody that's watched the film 'The Menu' and then watched him trying to recreate the hamburger from it, will see the theme of that movie went completely over his head.

Adam Ragusea is another one, brilliant sound and video, but with meh recopies and who has recently started to take joy in fucking with traditional recipes (watch him make an Irish Stew with beef and tomato paste, while taking pleasure at sneering at people who he knows are going to point out it's not actually an Irish Stew). He built his audience and is now making videos about how Mario Batali (who was accused of repeated sexual assaults) is the same as JK Rowling.

Jack is a bad chef/person/YouTuber... however lets not pretend that people with more polished production and cooking skills are somehow his moral superior.

I have admittedly have kind of a "soft spot" for Rea as his videos are what got me interested in cooking as a hobby/enjoyment vs just basic stuff for survival. Has his "basic" videos gotten that bad too? I thought his film/show foods were suppose to be the show off weird/different foods (like bear meat) and the basics was he more grounded. (after he expanded in to a "universe" I fell off his channel).

Ragusea for me is...meh some of his videos can be interesting but to me always came off as kind of preachy and that always turned me off.

But why Ragusea and Rea are better then jack is that they both give the impression that they give a shit about their product the video and the food to some degree unlike Jack.

I came across another channel called Anti-chef seeing him attempt to understand and follow Julia Child's recipes (mostly from Mastering the Art of French Cooking Vol. 1 and 2, and the French Chef) has been interesting (not sure about his other videos) and though it discovered some good ones.

As far as the Party Cheese salad some jackass just took a fruit jello/aspic fruit salad and a savory aspic monstrosity form the 50s/60s and combined it in to one. The Fruits/sweet ingrediency remind me of the fruit jello desert my grandmother use to make when I was a kid on holidays,

I think I might have found the beginnings of party cheese salad, it looks like Lime Jello, green olives stuffed with pimento, American Cheese (blocks/chuncks), and the celery, it is just missing the bell peppers.

 

[Trig.Point]

I came across another channel called Anti-chef seeing him attempt to understand and follow Julia Child's recipes (mostly from Mastering the Art of French Cooking Vol. 1 and 2, and the French Chef) has been interesting (not sure about his other videos) and though it discovered some good ones.

The reason Anti-Chef is so good is because he shows his fuck up, and demonstrates that he's emotionally invested in recipes that are in reality a product of 19th century france.

However Jamie Tracey (Anti Chef) is again a former VFX creator from Canada who needed a job when he followed his wife to Belgium and later New York. So his videos look great, even if he doesn't try to put a gloss on the food (a more honest version of Babish).

You, @ZipDisk as well as others keep coming pack to Jacks Party cheese salad well here's Anti-Chef trying to actually make Aspic as per Julia Childs (no pictures cookbook) and showing why people just don't anymore.

 

[EatBeforeYouEat]

Thank you for this, this is a gem. The man has been a fat idiotic 11 year old his entire adult life.

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Wow, this sentence encapsulates being a lolcow in ways I can't explain.
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The very first other blog post I click on and Jack has to be a total asshole again:

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Hospital? Wanting blood? What next, doctors asking you to go on diet?

"Do God's work and He will do your work!"​

 

[MetalOwls]

Andrew Rea (Babish) like most food successful food YouTubers worked in film production before getting into YouTube and had the contacts and media savvy to make it work. His schtick initially was recreating food from the movies, however anybody that's watched the film 'The Menu' and then watched him trying to recreate the hamburger from it, will see the theme of that movie went completely over his head.

Adam Ragusea is another one, brilliant sound and video, but with meh recipes and who has recently started to take joy in fucking with traditional food(watch him make an Irish Stew with beef and tomato paste, while taking pleasure at sneering at people who he knows are going to point out it's not actually an Irish Stew). He built his audience and is now making videos about how Mario Batali (who was accused of repeated sexual assaults) is the same as JK Rowling.

Jack is a bad chef/person/YouTuber... however lets not pretend that people with more polished production and cooking skills are somehow his moral superior.

You know the biggest difference between Babish and Adam with Jack? They actually do research.

Adam Ragusea especially goes out of his way to research parts of cooking that are taken for granted; the man literally takes out a dusty tome from the 1800s just to find out why risotto is stirred constantly instead of occasionally, or why it's called Bolongese and not something else. He remakes a dish he's researching multiple times to tell you why you need to cook something at medium temperature, or fold egg whites rather than whisk. The only YouTubers who goes deeper is Alex French Guy Cooking or Townsends, who actually recreate cooking apparatuses used in the 17th century, or travel halfway across the world for a recipe.

Babish demystifies recipes that'd otherwise never be recreated. He uses money to facilitate his cooking, and slick editing to compensate for his home cookery, but honestly that's using your strengths, not overcompensating. @stupidpieceofshit said his piece about Rea, and I don't have anything more to add.

People here hem and haw over the snobbery of the two, but the two 100% use their respective backgrounds to tackle cooking in approachable ways, and get their hands dirty doing it. Jack finds garbage online and dumps cans of processed foods before calling it cooking. It's more than just fancy tricks and frills that differentiate the two.

 

[Fascist Frederick]

"Do God's work and He will do your work!"​

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[Blasterisk]

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[biggacracka]

Party cheese salad is [...] unlike anything Jack has ever done

I agree with this and I'll reiterate what I said earlier in the thread: this is one of the only, if not THE only recipe that Jack actually followed correctly (at least as we can tell)

 

[Skwisgaar Skwigelf]

Jacks motto is: "Do Gods work and he will do your work to do Gods work to do your work todogodsworktodoyourworkTODOGODSWORKTODOYOURWORKTODOGODSWOR-

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. BOY, I AM KILLING MYSELF.

random.txt?

 

[Tastes Like Power]

I came across another channel called Anti-chef seeing him attempt to understand and follow Julia Child's recipes (mostly from Mastering the Art of French Cooking Vol. 1 and 2, and the French Chef) has been interesting (not sure about his other videos) and though it discovered some good ones.

The reason Anti-Chef is so good is because he shows his fuck up, and demonstrates that he's emotionally invested in recipes that are in reality a product of 19th century france.

However Jamie Tracey (Anti Chef) is again a former VFX creator from Canada who needed a job when he followed his wife to Belgium and later New York. So his videos look great, even if he doesn't try to put a gloss on the food (a more honest version of Babish).

I first found out about Anti-Chef after watching Jack's Julia in June videos, he was in my recommended and I got hooked.

Jamie's humility is refreshing. Even when he gets overconfident and it doesn't work out for him, he shows that on video. Him showing his fuck ups makes you want to root for him.

The other great thing about Jamie is that he learns from his mistakes and builds on what he learns over time. If you haven't seen his other videos besides his Julia Child ones, definitely check them out, especially the older ones. He's been at this for a few years now, and the progression from his early videos in Toronto until now in New York is tremendous. It's especially neat to see him first learning how to perform steps in recipes that he can do almost effortlessly now, such as whipping egg whites to "stiff peaks," and how he learns those skills through trial and error. Jack never seems to learn anything from what he does, and he thinks he doesn't have to.

When it comes to cooking, Jamie is pretty much everything Jack isn't.

 

[Counterfeit Obol]

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