Ben Shapiro / The Daily Wire - Commentator, Lawyer, Writer, WAP Sommelier, Vanquisher of SJWs, Podcast Host, Mara Wilson's cousin

[Smar Mijou]

Also the phrase Controlled Opposition is repeated a lot but I can't see how it fits Shapiro. Like usually the terms means either "losing with dignity" RINOs or absolutely toxic individuals that paint the whole movement badly (Milo, Fuentes). Shapiro has his fair share of shit opinions but he isn't influential enough to self sabotage the movement and not spicy enough to make everyone look bad.

It's not my phrase, just one of many that I've seen spouted here and other places online. I see it more as Shapiro and the DW being just cautious enough to not jeopardize their platform by playing by the rules. While Crowder obviously sees the same thing as being a sellout.


While the media companies endgame always boils down to money and profit above all else, I truly do believe that at least some of the DW and Crowder people do believe in their message on a personal level, and I can agree with and repect that. Lame dad-joke and deadpan persona aside, I do respect Matt Walsh for his callouts of the tranny pedos, helping to expose the mutilation of kids despite the once respected hospitals lying to our faces that they weren't, and pointing out the absolute absurdity of the modern gender ideology with the What Is A Woman? documentary. I think Candace Owens is just a paid actor, fulfilling her role as the "Black Conservative Woman"". Nearly everything she does reeks of inauthenticity to me, but as I said before, I will give her credit, she is great at calling out bullshit like the racial pandering and when she snaps like she did in the Tim Poole show or at the congressional hearings when they tried to use her as a political talking point, it clearly struck a nerve with her. You don't ever see that with her normal DW talking points, and I think the Tim Poole outburst was some repressed anger at her own DW situation. Maybe not, but just a hunch. (((Ben Shapiro))) is obviously just a typical Jewish businessman who is in it for the sheckels. It's basically a meme at this point, but I don't think he's part of a secret Jewish cabal that's really in charge of everything and trying to destroy the world. Kanye would disagree with me though. I just think he's a slightly spergy, orthodox-when-convenient modern beta-jew with a massive inferiority complex about his height and masculinity. And I really don't know or care about the Girl-Shapiro or the literally-who B-crew so I don't have an opinion on that.

Crowder is a bit harder to pin down for me. I agree with some here, he does give off pissy theater fag vibes, and he might be overcompensating for it by leaning ultra conservative in his public persona, but who knows? He at least seems more competent with debate than most of the DW crew, although like others have said it's hard to tell how much that stuff has been edited in his favor. He seems more comfortable with the sketch comedy than the straight political commentary format, so maybe that was another sticking point with DW as well. While I don't know how authentic he is in his beliefs, at least he has remained consistent with them since he's been in the public sphere, which is more than can be said about Candace Owens, Cenk Uygur with The Young Turks, or most politicians.

 

[Mister Rogers]

Ignore that it's mediamatters, but Candace has dirt on Crowder.

https://www.mediamatters.org/candace-owens/daily-wire-host-candace-owens-makes-ominous-remarks-about-being-given-certain

..."And I'm certain that in the near future, more information will come out."

This seems a threat of "don't push it further, Steven, or I'll reveal some dirt on you."

Or she could just be bluffing.

 

[mandatorylurk]

Bluffing, she's being normal catty black woman. Crowder can be called a primadonna and that's obvious, but she's just got conjecture from some Blaze people. Crowder said it best last night that she was acting like the woman who gets her wife or boyfriend into trouble at a restaurant or bar.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

Bluffing, she's being normal catty black woman. Crowder can be called a primadonna and that's obvious, but she's just got conjecture from some Blaze people. Crowder said it best last night that she was acting like the woman who gets her wife or boyfriend into trouble at a restaurant or bar.

And that kind of woman, when she's pissed at her boyfriend, will scream HE GOT WEED when he gets pulled over so he gets his ass beat.

So, if she got some dirt on Crowder, it's likely she'll leroy jenkins it the next time she chimps out

 

[verissimus]

Ignore that it's mediamatters, but Candace has dirt on Crowder.

https://www.mediamatters.org/candace-owens/daily-wire-host-candace-owens-makes-ominous-remarks-about-being-given-certain

..."And I'm certain that in the near future, more information will come out."
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This seems a threat of "don't push it further, Steven, or I'll reveal some dirt on you."

Or she could just be bluffing.

I generally don't agree with @mandatorylurk assessments, but in this case I agree. She's bluffing. What could she even produce that's both damning and provable? Even then, I'd say at worse she has something somewhat embarassing that she will try to spin as something heinous sort of like Crowder's recorded conversation which proved jack squat.

 

[Smar Mijou]

Ignore that it's mediamatters, but Candace has dirt on Crowder.

https://www.mediamatters.org/candace-owens/daily-wire-host-candace-owens-makes-ominous-remarks-about-being-given-certain

..."And I'm certain that in the near future, more information will come out."
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This seems a threat of "don't push it further, Steven, or I'll reveal some dirt on you."

Or she could just be bluffing.

Remember people, this is Can-doxx Owens. Formerly the owner/founder of large scale public shaming and doxxing website Social Autopsy. If she had any actual dirt on someone, she'd go after them for it.

 

[Fearlessjay]

I was disappointed Candace didn't shout out the person who discovered her on Pool's show, the one and only Ethan Ralph. I remember watching that at the time and thinking she was a stuck up idiot.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

It's not my phrase, just one of many that I've seen spouted here and other places online. I see it more as Shapiro and the DW being just cautious enough to not jeopardize their platform by playing by the rules. While Crowder obviously sees the same thing as being a sellout.


While the media companies endgame always boils down to money and profit above all else, I truly do believe that at least some of the DW and Crowder people do believe in their message on a personal level, and I can agree with and repect that. Lame dad-joke and deadpan persona aside, I do respect Matt Walsh for his callouts of the tranny pedos, helping to expose the mutilation of kids despite the once respected hospitals lying to our faces that they weren't, and pointing out the absolute absurdity of the modern gender ideology with the What Is A Woman? documentary. I think Candace Owens is just a paid actor, fulfilling her role as the "Black Conservative Woman"". Nearly everything she does reeks of inauthenticity to me, but as I said before, I will give her credit, she is great at calling out bullshit like the racial pandering and when she snaps like she did in the Tim Poole show or at the congressional hearings when they tried to use her as a political talking point, it clearly struck a nerve with her. You don't ever see that with her normal DW talking points, and I think the Tim Poole outburst was some repressed anger at her own DW situation. Maybe not, but just a hunch. (((Ben Shapiro))) is obviously just a typical Jewish businessman who is in it for the sheckels. It's basically a meme at this point, but I don't think he's part of a secret Jewish cabal that's really in charge of everything and trying to destroy the world. Kanye would disagree with me though. I just think he's a slightly spergy, orthodox-when-convenient modern beta-jew with a massive inferiority complex about his height and masculinity. And I really don't know or care about the Girl-Shapiro or the literally-who B-crew so I don't have an opinion on that.

Crowder is a bit harder to pin down for me. I agree with some here, he does give off pissy theater fag vibes, and he might be overcompensating for it by leaning ultra conservative in his public persona, but who knows? He at least seems more competent with debate than most of the DW crew, although like others have said it's hard to tell how much that stuff has been edited in his favor. He seems more comfortable with the sketch comedy than the straight political commentary format, so maybe that was another sticking point with DW as well. While I don't know how authentic he is in his beliefs, at least he has remained consistent with them since he's been in the public sphere, which is more than can be said about Candace Owens, Cenk Uygur with The Young Turks, or most politicians.

Totally agree about Candace Owens.
Fuck that creepy, oiled up barbie doll looking slag.

As for Crowder, I've been following him for a long time. He's pretty fucking authetic, though a massive sperg with an ego, but he does believe in his shit as far as a I can tell.

 

[Blobby's Murder Knife]

Totally agree about Candace Owens.
Fuck that creepy, oiled up barbie doll looking slag.

As for Crowder, I've been following him for a long time. He's pretty fucking authetic, though a massive sperg with an ego, but he does believe in his shit as far as a I can tell.

Up until he has to put his money where his mouth is. He wants other people to do the work for him on creating a space free of Big Tech. Witness this spergout that the DW refused to let him work for free to make this possible and on Tim Pool he constantly stated he didn't want to make his own platform.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Up until he has to put his money where his mouth is. He wants other people to do the work for him on creating a space free of Big Tech. Witness this spergout that the DW refused to let him work for free to make this possible and on Tim Pool he constantly stated he didn't want to make his own platform.

Kinda doubt Crowder would have the money to build a platform, even if he wanted one. Not to mention to work needed to do such, as Trump proved, money and drive does not a platform make.
I don't know why he went nuts on DW about this stupid deal though. He must really feel insulted.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

As for Crowder, I've been following him for a long time. He's pretty fucking authetic, though a massive sperg with an ego, but he does believe in his shit as far as a I can tell.

I thought he was pretty authentic too until I saw the Tim Pool episode and realized how much he just lies through his fucking teeth. Really disappointing imo but I should have known better, e-celebs and all. I think he got me thinking that he was genuinely religious and as a result I gave him a pass that I shouldn't have.

fake edit: reflecting on it now, it's true that he semi-regularly mentions his faith and the Bible etc... but he basically never mentions going to church or any church-related stuff. Should have been a red flag.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

I thought he was pretty authentic too until I saw the Tim Pool episode and realized how much he just lies through his fucking teeth. Really disappointing imo but I should have known better, e-celebs and all. I think he got me thinking that he was genuinely religious and as a result I gave him a pass that I shouldn't have.

Don't watch Timpool. What did Crowder lie about?

fake edit: reflecting on it now, it's true that he semi-regularly mentions his faith and the Bible etc... but he basically never mentions going to church or any church-related stuff. Should have been a red flag.

Yes he does. He sometimes talks about doing work for his parish or what do the Americans call it, often says he donates money to his church and has talked about some kind of dating program for single Christians operating through his church.

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

Yes. The only people Crowder is doing favors for are Media Matters and the Young Turks, whose takes are top in the search results.

Way to stick it to big tech, Steve

"muh conservative movement, better ignore all the fucky-wucky shit cuz infighting bad"
But is it infighting when you're ousting faggots who harms said movement and is selling it out? I don't think so.

This is why commentators need to stay the fuck off of Twitter. It leads to way too many retarded takes in the moment. I think they need to survey how many of their paypigs actually even use SM beyond boomerposting on FB.

How is knowing what these people really think is a bad thing?

Yes he does. He sometimes talks about doing work for his parish or what do the Americans call it, often says he donates money to his church and has talked about some kind of dating program for single Christians operating through his church.

He also hires like-minded people and even their family, at the same time expanding the operation to keep spreading his message. I'd write that down under "Putting one's money where their mouth is".

 

[SpergioLeonne]

Remember people, this is Can-doxx Owens. Formerly the owner/founder of large scale public shaming and doxxing website Social Autopsy. If she had any actual dirt on someone, she'd go after them for it.

So what, she didn’t know about Kiwi Farms already existing?

This is a moment of staggering, just absolutely jaw dropping “wut”

"muh conservative movement, better ignore all the fucky-wucky shit cuz infighting bad"
But is it infighting when you're ousting faggots who harms said movement and is selling it out? I don't think so.

How is knowing what these people really think is a bad thing?

It’s not, but sucking Crowder’s dick doesn’t improve anything. Same guy who ran away from surprise debating Sam Seder, who I actually tried defending over that just because it was obnoxious of Ethan Klein to do..

Same guy who punctuates every sentence where he says “it’s not about the money” with a pitch to subscribe to mug club version three or four.

Shapiro was a fucking weenie about the vaccine, but he made up for it by suing over the mandate, which cost precious shekels. He’s been a weenie about a lot of things, and that’s because he’s a weenie.

But the whole accusation that he’s secretly doing the bidding of big tech by DW not offering crowder enough money is just.. something fucking worse completely. Especially since Boreing and Shapiro both said separately that the only time they’ve ever spoken with Susan Whateverjizzky at YouTube was to protest Crowder being demonetized three years ago.

I don’t see who Crowder has ever done shit for.

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

Same guy who punctuates every sentence where he says “it’s not about the money” with a pitch to subscribe to mug club version three or four.

This is a fallacy and you know it. It's pretty fucking obvious that any operation needs money. "It's not about the money" is a statement specifically regarding his reasons as to why he's critical of the practices their offer exposed, which I don't have to repeat because by now you should know it from what he himself said.
And all things considered, $50mil is frankly pitiful.

Same guy who ran away from surprise debating Sam Seder, who I actually tried defending over that just because it was obnoxious of Ethan Klein to do..

"Ran away"? Why exactly was he supposed to platform some small fry faggot who was never even invited and just hijacked the call for a publicity stunt?
Any serious debate requires preparation and is usually agreed upon, for one. You know as well as I do that Seether likely came prepared to catch Crowder off guard and make the most of it.
I couldn't understand the argument that Crowder was supposed to entertain that worm instead of just hanging up then, just as I don't understand it now. Steven's only mistake is that he didn't hang up earlier, but he got to roast them for a bit at least.
Such a stupid fucking thing to hold against him.

Shapiro was a fucking weenie about the vaccine, but he made up for it by suing over the mandate, which cost precious shekels. He’s been a weenie about a lot of things, and that’s because he’s a weenie.

But the whole accusation that he’s secretly doing the bidding of big tech by DW not offering crowder enough money is just.. something fucking worse completely. Especially since Boreing and Shapiro both said separately that the only time they’ve ever spoken with Susan Whateverjizzky at YouTube was to protest Crowder being demonetized three years ago.

I don’t see who Crowder has ever done shit for.

Oh, I dunno, actually saying what he thinks and speaking up on behalf of people that these supposed republicans claim to represent?
After all, they only dodged every controversial issue that would've gotten them demonetized like it happened to Crowder, which is exactly the fucking issue.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

This is a fallacy and you know it. It's pretty fucking obvious that any operation needs money. "It's not about the money" is a statement specifically regarding his reasons as to why he's critical of the practices their offer exposed, which I don't have to repeat because by now you should know it from what he himself said.
And all things considered, $50mil is frankly pitiful.

He solicited the offer, and $12.5 million a year represents like 10% of Daily Wire’s total revenue.

Crowder went “trust me, bro” about making a new mug club for them “on day one,” but only an idiot would structure a deal taking him at his word. He should have NOT been a faggot and NOT tried to sell his fan’s subscriptions and emails for the third or fourth time.

"Ran away"? Why exactly was he supposed to platform some small fry faggot who was never even invited and just hijacked the call for a publicity stunt?
Any serious debate requires preparation and is usually agreed upon, for one. You know as well as I do that Seether likely came prepared to catch Crowder off guard and make the most of it.
I couldn't understand the argument that Crowder was supposed to entertain that worm instead of just hanging up then, just as I don't understand it now. Steven's only mistake is that he didn't hang up earlier, but he got to roast them for a bit at least.
Such a stupid fucking thing to hold against him.

I mean, if we really believed in Steve, wouldn’t him embarrassing Seder be an option? You’re not even entertaining it, and you’re the one on the pro crowder side.

Oh, I dunno, actually saying what he thinks and speaking up on behalf of people that these supposed republicans claim to represent?
After all, they only dodged every controversial issue that would've gotten them demonetized like it happened to Crowder, which is exactly the fucking issue.

I didn’t hear crowder mention a single time that either of the DW guys had gone to bat for him when he was demonetized. No, he just histrionically preached about how you’re supposed to believe him that unless the Daily Wire had given him 20% of their total revenue instead of closer to 10%, that they’re bad George Soros Jews for real.

Not to mention that none of these new media companies have anyone on contract that didn’t build their own fans first. None of them NEED a contract to gain a fan base or get their views heard, any fucking idiot can do it on their own. Ethan Ralph used to get like 20k concurrent viewers on a stream and Nick Rekieta has been well over 100k.

Edit to toss one more on here:

On Timcast, while disguising his fury over not being offered enough millions of dollars and trying to make it sound like his concern was really just the unfair terms that didn’t shift 100% of liability away from him, he said “why do you think the midterms happened?”

Well, Steve, about 100% of your fan base and about 100% of Tim’s fan base think it’s because of structural issues with the elections. Ballot harvesting, 19” prints on 20” stock, prejudice in ballot curing, dead people voting, etc.

But no, according to crowder, Democrats won fair and square. Republicans were just taught by The Daily Wire to be Democrats.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

Don't watch Timpool. What did Crowder lie about?

The whole fucking he was being incredibly slippery and tons of people have cut parts of it and put them out on twitter and shit, but to give you my personal highlights:

I had to stop watching in disgust, but holy shit did Crowder have me fooled that he was not too much of a grifter when he's in fact a fucking world class grifter. Unchallenged, he could probably out-Shapiro Shapiro.

>'What about the accusations that you only refused the contract because the Daily Wire didn't offer you enough money'
>'That's a lie, the Daily Wire never offered me more than $50M'
Yeah that's because you countered with $120M and they said no, so yeah, they didn't offer you more money.

>'I don't know where Candace Owens got that I asked for $140M, I never asked for that'
Yeah, it was $120

>'The Daily Wire has been doing dirty tricks to me for years, it's well known in the industry'
Then why did you constantly make streams with them, acting like they are your friends, and considered joining them for months before changing your mind?

>'They lied about the timeline, they tried to poach one of our employees!'
First of all, companies do that shit all the time, and second, that's just a diversion you're not addressing the timeline at all.

He also kept sidestepping Tim Pool about recording his call with Boreing and shit. Fuck, that guy can lie like a motherfucker when he's talking to a crowd dumb enough not to pick up on what he's saying.


Not only that, but his whole 'Shucks I don't care about money I'd accept any amount as long as the terms were fair! Talk to Gerald he's my CEO I know nothing about money! He's the one who tells me I keep accepting low-ball offers, I tell ya!'

Motherfucker was offered $30M with the Blaze and he turned them down and never complained about his conditions or contract with them, so if you don't care about money then why the fuck aren't you sticking with them then?

Fuck that guy.

Oh and while we're at it, his whole 'Muh production budget' argument.

'I employ 25 people! I need to pay for my budget! All of it would come out of my pocket!'

Even if you paid all of your employees $100,000/year on average, that's $2.5M out of your $12.5M budget. Throw in another $500,000 in health insurance. That's $3M. We're supposed to think that between $8-9M a year isn't enough to cover his salary and his production cost?

That's a really big budget for all his tranny costumes.

Viva Frei brought up a good point as well: there's multiple instances of Crowder telling Tim how he does shit to avoid being banned from Youtube, and makes sure that he stays exactly within the guidelines there because he needs to be on Youtube.

Which is the main point he was originally shitting on the DW for.

He was constantly being shifty and saying things like 'I never asked for more money' and then a few minutes later just offhandedly saying shit like 'but my agent might have' as if his agent isn't an extension of him.

It was really disappointing. I thought he was a straight (lol) shooter before that.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

I'm genuinely puzzled about why all of that shit happened. How is that helping Crowder's brand?

Ditch the blaze without anywhere to go, start up some shit with people who used to be your friends, and then stop making shows for over three months without telling people what's going or if you even have anything going on in the first place.

I can't stand the daily wire but at the very least they don't dick the people that listens to them and completely disappear for months on end without even tweeting about it.

I originally signed up to mug club as soon as it became a thing, because I liked crowder and didn't mind getting in on CRTV with Gavin, Levin, Beck, etc... but I cancelled after a year because crowder would take those long breaks and I couldn't justify keeping it for more or less him alone.

When he announced he was leaving the Blaze and starting something new, I figured I would be willing to give him a chance and get in again but after another three months without content when you know he's gonna take at least another month off in the summer, another in the winter, and random weeks here and there? Fuck that.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Matt Walsh is starting to get quite spicy, I like it. Already considered him above other mainstream conservatives, but now the dude has essentially did a whole segment against cuckservatism and optics when it comes to trannies, and "cancelled" conservatards. This might put him at odds with Ben Shapiro, who knows VERY well where this leads lmao.
Matt "Power! Unlimited POWER!" Walsh:

 

[Tilapia]

Does Matt Walsh have his own thread?

Because his wife tweeted a funny anecdote last week about his failure at husbandry (archived here) but then quickly deleted.