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And tick is an idiot when it comes to political philosophy because he has his head so far up libertarian academics assholes that he literally believes any form of government intervention in the economy is literally communism.
No, he's postulated that it's collectivist, because it is. What else would it be, individualist? This is not a "both sides are wrong" thing.
 
No, he's postulated that it's collectivist, because it is. What else would it be, individualist? This is not a "both sides are wrong" thing.
Intervention in the economy is as old as human civilization some of the earliest writings we have are building codes
They were pretty harsh actually back then if you're structure collapsed on people and it killed any member of the family they could legally execute you.
That's from ancient Mesopotamia
Libertarian Society has never existed it is simply a theoretical model of government which is highly impractical just like communism and.
no Nazi Germany is not communist it happens to just have some left-leaning economic views by that standard Catherine the Great is also a communist and so is John Locke

If we use the tick standards of government ancient Rome communist
Imperial Russia communist classical liberals some of which believed in socialized medicine communist
Agrarians also communists.
 
Intervention in the economy is as old as human civilization some of the earliest writings we have are building codes
They were pretty harsh actually back then if you're structure collapsed on people and it killed any member of the family they could legally execute you.
That's from ancient Mesopotamia
Okay, none of that addresses whether or not government intervention is a collectivist act or not.
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no Nazi Germany is not communist it happens to just have some left-leaning economic views by that standard Catherine the Great is also a communist and so is John Locke
Nazi Germany wasn't Communist, they were Socialist.
Libertarian Society has never existed it is simply a theoretical model of government which is highly impractical just like communism
What do you define as Libertarian? Libertarianism is pro-small government, which is what the Founding Fathers had designed and remained that way until the Federal government switched from Dual Federalism to Cooperative Federalism.
If we use the tick standards of government ancient Rome communist
I've watched all of Tick's political videos and at no point does he define every government model as Communist specifically. If anything, he bangs on the Socialism drum much more, especially in regards to Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy.
 
Can someone tell me if this is satire ? Sounds obvious, but judging by the channel, I don't think it is. And I don't wanna watch this shit to find out
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When TIK was focusing his content on debunking pro-German myths in WWII historiography all these lefties were singing his praises but when he starts critiquing socialism and the soviets he is now "pro-fascist" even though his view of the Germans never softened or changed.
TIK is a prime example of how historians and political ideologies often mix well like oil and water. But I got to give it to TIK anyone that can simultaneously piss off wheraboos, tankies, and explain how logistics win wars is always a better war analysis then Second thought/bad empanada who argue Communism/Marxism are actually good because capitalism bad.
I don't know if this is the right place for this but I can't think of a better place to put this.
The guy's main point of contention as to why socialism is better than capitalism is the presupposition that people are innately selfish and the history of people bartering for goods and services eventually emerging into a trade with currency is a myth. Then where did money come from? Why did people invent money in the first place? Did aliens come from outer space and teach people what coins are?

He tries to make the point that capitalism "is the economic system where one person owns all the means of production" as if that were unique to capitalism & the central planning of communist nations like the USSR isn't exactly what he describes capitalism to be, if not much more so.

He then makes the assertion that capitalism can't be a facet of human nature simply because it's only been around for 500 years. Ancient Rome & Carthage never existed, I guess. Or maybe Second Thought is a Young Earth Creationist channel. Then let's not even mention that socialism is a much younger economic theory compared to even this alleged 500 year old nerfed capitalism he proposes, so by that standard socialism has less basis in reality than capitalism does, because its comparative youth is only a testament to its falsehood.

I think what offends me most about these leftist Youtube channels is nobody ever challenges any of the logical leaps & gaps these people have to make to even begin making socialism, Marxism or communism sound persuasive or palatable. Everything here is so easily refutable by simply asking rhetorical questions or pointing out major absurdities, like the notion nobody has ever traded or bartered prior to the year 1,500 A.D.

He then attempts to make a false dichotomy argument that humans are geniuses at capital, finance and pricing at stores but imbeciles at anything else (socialism), but what he doesn't understand about free market capitalism is that people are not "setting prices" on goods and services, they're competing against each other, these prices are set over a power struggle of efficiency and cost verses profit.

He then goes on to whine about how capitalists strawman socialism to be one giant hippy commune where everyone is nice to each other (in this video where he strawman argues that capitalism is malicious greediness) and explains that it's collective ownership, where everyone involved in a company decides by democracy how that company is ran.

Reminder that there's literally nothing stopping these types from just doing exactly what they describe, there's nothing stopping these people from starting their own company and just running it as a socialist enterprise, so why don't they? Is it because they know that a company ran entirely by democratic vote would fall apart in short order, and every decision would be predicated on excluding a 49% minority of the company? If that's not true, why don't they put their money where their mouths are.

Also the idea that such a company would yield no profits & still work lol, so basically a stagnant company that never grows and is eventually squashed by one that does. If something breaks, they can't replace it because there's no extra money lmao. Good luck with that. I wonder if this socialist grifter ever turns on ads for their videos?

Oh look, they have a Patreon, what hypocrites: https://patreon.com/secondthought

Hey what gives? I thought profit was bad and wrong, what's wrong, socialist? Did you realize at the back of your head that a zero-profit enterprise is unsustainable? You wouldn't happen to be a grifter feeding lies to a horde of dullard sheep, would you? Of course you are, because the only socialists are champagne socialists.

This Youtuber even has a Buy Me Coffee and CashApp link. What a hypocrite.
Second thoughts entire arguments can be summed up like this.
This is why capitalism is bad and socialism is good, allowing unfettered free speech = breeding grounds for fascists, America is a evil racist fascist country, fascism is bad and comrades help support me on Patreon.
 
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Minions are known for working for the most evil man in history. So Minions was actually based because the Minion didn't work for Hitler (proving Hitler and the Nazis were the good guys).
 
That video was really dumb. He thinks that Leonidas being nice to Ephialtes in that one scene means that the movie isn't trying to criticize Sparta as a whole for forcing Ephialtes out of their society in the first place. The movie isn't trying to criticize Leonidas not letting him fight, its criticizing Sparta's baby murder and ultra militarized culture, to the point where fighting and dying in war is the only purpose any man has and Leonidas has to stop one of the other soldiers from killing Ephialtes right there. Also saying that won in the end is pointless. Its like saying that the message of breaking bad is that you should do drugs and sell method cause Walter white "won" in the end. Finally if the movie is pro fascism why did Sparta work so hard to fight against a fascist emperor instead of just joining them. Literally the caption of one of the movie posters is xerxes saying "ATHENS WILL BURN". AKA the birthplace of democracy.
How do you fuck up a critique of 300 as a leftist? That movie is a meme based on a comic book, it's Gods and Generals-tier low hanging fruit

Here's a funny question you can use to troll Commies. If Communism is so great why isn't the USSR around anymore? After all, if Communism is a superior ideology then it should have dethroned Capitalism by now.

It's the same question I ask Fascists and other extremist nutjobs (like religious nationalists and Anarchists) about their ideologies. If their ideology is so great, then why don't most people want to adopt them? Could it be that most people out there are not batshit insane and want to live a normal life where they're not forced to worship the state or not be forced to worship deity like you see in countries like North Korea or Iran? Hmm.

I mean shit the reason why you're not seeing everyday hardworking people becoming Commies is because why would they surrender their individual rights to some hack that promises them free shit? That's another thing, the only type of people that extremist ideologies attract are usually the people that are morally bankrupt and society's angsty outcasts that nobody fucking likes anyway.

The only people that will pretty much become a Communist these days are people that made tons of bad choices in life to blame society, rich fucks like Vuash and Hasanabi that were born with a gold spoon in their mouths, and college gradates that got indoctrinated by the leftist professors and they now think they know everything about the world around them.

So the reason why normal people don't want Communism is for the same reasons why normal people don't really want Fascism or Anarchism or any other wacko ideology for that matter; those are the ideologies of losers and unhinged nobodies that are the punchline of a joke anyway.
They'd just say that their ideology is the best to live under, but capitalism is better at war and destruction. It makes sense if you have that Game of Thrones worldview shared by most jaded political extremists, namely that the most brutal faction always wins and any history that says differently was written by them.
 
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do you think these losers will grow out of their communist phase by the time they hit 30
Nope they will just wallow in their own misery as they realize they earn less and less money and double down on it's capitalism's fault.
Imagine teaching political propaganda to small children

How utterly pathetic
Well duh if they don't teach communism/anti racism to kids the kids might grow up to say Fuck this shit.
How do you fuck up a critique of 300 as a leftist? That movie is a meme based on a comic book, it's Gods and Generals-tier low hanging fruit


They'd just say that their ideology is the best to live under, but capitalism is better at war and destruction. It makes sense if you have that Game of Thrones worldview shared by most jaded political extremists, namely that the most brutal faction always wins and any history that says differently was written by them.
It's easy to make a 300 critique as a leftist. Overread every single point, don't allow a story to be a story and assume the author made this as a right wing subversive piece or a love letter to Communism it's simpls.
 
This fearmongering is just Lol. I guess we reached the point where twans genocide isn't metaphorical anymore but a literal thing where muh ebil republicans will start shooting trannies on sight with ARs. It's always hilarious to see literal soy faggots talk about gun ownership. But as long as they don't campaign against it I'm okay with it.

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