Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Procrastinhater]

@Eden Seeker Welcome the Farms. As long as you aren't into gross oversharing of your weird fetish shit and aren't deliberately annoying, I think you'll find we're not as bad as most of the Twitter Troons make us out to be. You're certainly more welcome here than any of us would be in one of you guys spaces.

I'll second the sentiment from very first tentative impressions I won't call you a freak, you seem to be very self aware of what you are and the limitations of what "transitioning" can achieve. We were discussing the other day the difference between the Old School Trannies and the new type that have fallen victim to this social contagion and are generally histrionic shits.
Old School Trannies tended to be very aware of biological reality, the limitations of surgeries (hence why a lot didn't bother and just dressed the part) and overall of what they were looking to achieve, realized they weren't women, but living as one helped ease a little the dysmorphia they felt.
Any kind of dysmorphia is a crippling psychological illness, and the gender specific version is particularly pernicious especially as there's no other real attempt to help you guys other than to push the tranny train further down the tracks, so to speak.

You'll find a lot of us while we fucking despise the extremely whiney type of troon exemplified by the ones currently losing their shit over a fucking videogame, also have a varying degree of sympathy for the horror that has been inflicted on you by the ideological refusal to look into any alternative, and more realistic type of treatment for your disorder.
I'm sorry that this is something you struggle with and that currently any treatment that may actually work is suppressed as "conversion therapy"

Individual troons aren't what we hate (although there are a lot of that type) its more the whole "movement" that seeks to corrupt and infect naive and often autistic and depressed kids, and recruit them into what is undeniably a twisted and perverted cult that focuses on mutilation and sexual deviance.
If you aren't one of those, and you aren't here to try to rub your AGP shit in our faces, you shouldn't be treated as hostile as you might imagine.
If you turn out to be a creep, however, you came to the wrong place.
Feel free to take a look around we have threads about all kinds of stuff not just troon shit.

 

[Eden Seeker]

Every time .

CS major by any chance? @Eden Seeker

Haha, I'm a dropout, but a senior CS engineer. Been programming as long as I remember myself. I really am the stereotype, aside from not owning any pink-striped thigh-highs.

@Eden Seeker I'll make this brief. Here's what stands out to me in your post:
1. "you can't really discuss a lot of this stuff with other trans ppl, because they will yell at you"
2. "I've been thinking how to talk to her about this because she seems mad every time I try to bring this up"
3. "diagnosed-in-early-childhood-and-had-tranquilizers-shot-into-me ADHD-sperg"

I'm sorry the child you were didn't receive the care you deserved. Your partner should be the one person you can talk openly to, without fear. But your closest relationship and your own trans community are controlling you - controlling what you even talk about through fear of repercussion.

That's...cult shit.

FWIW I don't believe you're a freak. You're too self aware.

Well, Dad turned out to drown his marriage in alcohol all while screaming at me how I'm the one ruining my life and beating the rest of the kids, so... yeah. He got his karma.

Again, I think "cult shit" is an overdescription for my situation at least. I'm not in a country with inane self-ID laws like you losers are. And the "trans community" is honestly not a huge part in my life, so it's whatever. But I hope me & SO get on some common ground on that, there's probably genuine feelings behind this change in her that need to be talked through.

I'm 100% a freak, sorry. Poly shit, BDSM shit. I'm not as intensely into AGP as some people are - it's more of a longing for something not present - but it's definitely the best description of my sexuality I've found so far. Honestly, I'm mad that Blanchard's theory got no scientific continuation - I always knew the bill of "at-birth trans" doesn't fit either me or like 80% of trans people I interact with, and this framework has a lot of genuine predictive power. I wish people over at Mumsnet stopped getting their pearls in a knot after hearing "-philia" and immediately deciding that it's the DeGeNeRaCy which needs to be dealt with. You can be a freak and be a good person, and live responsibly. On the other hand, I wish AGPs stopped going into full denial whenever this gets brought up and worked through themselves with open eyes. Kind of a vicious cycle situation here.

 

[Aunt Carol]

Kids copy others all the time, they do what they see on TV and tiktok.

I think this is more cringe than anything concerning.

The weird part is that you're allowed to quietly humor, or gently laugh at, anything cringe a kid starts claiming--unless they say they're transgender, which nobody has ever been wrong about or lied about ever, and can have very real legal consequences if you don't "affirm" them while you're in the wrong jurisdiction.

12-year-old starts loudly proclaiming they're a communist or really, really, really into K-pop; you take some photos for later and just accept this is an annoying phase. "I'm really a boy" and ice shoots up your spine; this is an equally-silly tween phase, but if they say the magic words to a teacher, you (and they) are fucked.

I feel like the right response is "huh, how do you feel like a boy?" or even "well I guess you'd better help me change the oil then," and then a lot of discussion and capital-P Parenting. With peer pressure and social media on one hand, State backing on the other hand, a dumbass kid suddenly has power over their parent to continue making really bad decisions, but only on this one area.

It's really really bizarre.

 

[Eden Seeker]

@Procrastinhater yeah I mean, I'm not an "old-school tranny" in the sense of being "core trans", HSTS or what have you. I honestly shudder to face the truth that I am, ultimately, from the same breed as the creepiest fucks out there, I don't get the "old tranny" points. I am a full-blown man who decided to undergo dangerous physical therapy (after much lamentation and angst about it) because it seems like it really is the life I want to live. I'm one of the bad ones, hun, save your pearl-clutching sympathy for someone else

I don't think there is an "alternative treatment", philias are sexual orientations and are, according to all of the psychiatric research from the last century, immutable. Unless you believe that Trans Lobby went back and lobbied for those, too, that's just how it is. The alternative is to suck it up if urges are not that bad, but then statistics say chances are you'll blow your lid clean off by the forties.
I don't think an "alternative treatment" is needed. "Talking it out with a shrink" doesn't work for sexual orientations. I talked to a good shrink for five years, I took that shit seriously. But no, once this switch is flipped, it cannot be un-flipped. It's a bit like developing an alter-ego - I guess that's why a lot of relatives/partners describe it being of uncanny, body-snatching thing. But your alter-ego still doesn't have to be narcissistic and creepy.

 

[RazorBackBacon]

This also terrifies me. He's online a lot and the thought that someone he knows on the internet could be influencing these thoughts is so scary.

Kids copy others all the time, they do what they see on TV and tiktok.

given the sheer number of groomers on tiktok, that makes me *more* nervous, not less.

And welcome to the Farms @Eden Seeker.

 

[Fapcop]

@Procrastinhater yeah I mean, I'm not an "old-school tranny" in the sense of being "core trans", HSTS or what have you. I honestly shudder to face the truth that I am, ultimately, from the same breed as the creepiest fucks out there, I don't get the "old tranny" points. I am a full-blown man who decided to undergo dangerous physical therapy (after much lamentation and angst about it) because it seems like it really is the life I want to live. I'm one of the bad ones, hun, save your pearl-clutching sympathy for someone else

I don't think there is an "alternative treatment", philias are sexual orientations and are, according to all of the psychiatric research from the last century, immutable. Unless you believe that Trans Lobby went back and lobbied for those, too, that's just how it is. The alternative is to suck it up if urges are not that bad, but then statistics say chances are you'll blow your lid clean off by the forties.
I don't think an "alternative treatment" is needed. "Talking it out with a shrink" doesn't work for sexual orientations. I talked to a good shrink for five years, I took that shit seriously. But no, once this switch is flipped, it cannot be un-flipped. It's a bit like developing an alter-ego - I guess that's why a lot of relatives/partners describe it being of uncanny, body-snatching thing. But your alter-ego still doesn't have to be narcissistic and creepy.

Yeah, I don’t really have anything to say except you seem like a good dude, and once we’ve manage to set up camps for all you trannies, I’m sure we can pull some strings and get you a nice trustee position as block leader, or member of the ruling Troon Elder Council or something.

Also, your gf sounds like she’s fallen into some shitty company.

And like she’s well on her way to becoming a true believer or trooning out herself. I think these things are often fueled by a desire to belong, so maybe she needs to find some better friends and come to terms with who she is, before she comes out as a “Femboy” or “feminine FTM transmasc” or something similar batshit insane?

 

[Windows 10 Upgrade]

So anyway I was taking a quick situational check of my middle school kid's social media (I feel horrible about doing it, but when you have a kid that is online, you need to occasionally peep in to not see if there's no grooming or other shenannigans).

It appears his old elementary school friend - a girl who I'll call Dianne - has an older 14 year old sister - Emily - with a very recent big old dose of social contagion and is now "gay and trans". Trans as in - everyone else is so she must also be - and "gay" because Emily has a "boyfriend" which is too much of a teenage status symbol to drop.

I know Emily and she is one of your typical loud attention-seeking but socially awkward isotope of teenage girl and of course I could see her jumping loudly and obnoxiously on the FTM bandwagon.

My kid and his friend lamented the LGBT in their respective middle schools, and how it was such an overwhelming popularity thing as the "trans" student gets uplifted as stunning and brave and every other kid feels jealous and left out unless they too become trans. I was astounded by my kid's astureness in his observation: "they're all pick-me's".

I hope Emily's mother gets through these next few years. What a fucking headache.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

So anyway I was taking a quick situational check of my middle school kid's social media (I feel horrible about doing it, but when you have a kid that is online, you need to occasionally peep in to not see if there's no grooming or other shenannigans).

Ideally kids should not be using any social media. Seems like yours at least has skirted the trans trend but remember its just one of a million vectors of infection and highly dangerous psychical attacks that occur on social media so don't ever loose sight of her or feel horrible for doing your job.

 

[Windows 10 Upgrade]

I'm not saying you're lying, I'm saying I don't believe a kid that young would understand enough about sexuality to even grasp what being gay means, let alone come out. If a kid is sexualising himself below the age of 14 or so, something has gone very wrong. The fact that he's now trooning at such a young age strengthens my opinion; someone has been grooming that child for a long time.

It's probably not entirely secret knowledge passed on by dodgy adults, kids are pretty open about calling other kids gay (especially if they have an older sibling) Just recently I was child-minding at a park and witnessed a bunch of 9-10 year olds having a discussion whether someone's hat was "gay" or not and another kid saying seriously to me, "You know what they mean by GAY, right?"

That kid is now 15 and "pansexual" apparently, though I think they'll end up being a big ol' gay.

Ideally kids should not be using any social media. Seems like yours at least has skirted the trans trend but remember its just one of a million vectors of infection and highly dangerous psychical attacks that occur on social media so don't ever loose sight of her or feel horrible for doing your job.

Exactly. There's a few kid-friendly message chats (Messenger for Kids) that are "mirrored" so that adults can read the texts and make sure nothing is going on, so I keep tabs on that one.

The YouTube account is mine - I can see the history. I wouldn't let him use Discord, and I make sure I'm paying for Robux after I realised that kids with no regular access to the cryoptocurrency that is Robux tended to get sucked in to grooming circles just to get some ro-cash.

 

[Procrastinhater]

@Procrastinhater yeah I mean, I'm not an "old-school tranny" in the sense of being "core trans", HSTS or what have you. I honestly shudder to face the truth that I am, ultimately, from the same breed as the creepiest fucks out there, I don't get the "old tranny" points. I am a full-blown man who decided to undergo dangerous physical therapy (after much lamentation and angst about it) because it seems like it really is the life I want to live. I'm one of the bad ones, hun, save your pearl-clutching sympathy for someone else

I don't think there is an "alternative treatment", philias are sexual orientations and are, according to all of the psychiatric research from the last century, immutable. Unless you believe that Trans Lobby went back and lobbied for those, too, that's just how it is. The alternative is to suck it up if urges are not that bad, but then statistics say chances are you'll blow your lid clean off by the forties.
I don't think an "alternative treatment" is needed. "Talking it out with a shrink" doesn't work for sexual orientations. I talked to a good shrink for five years, I took that shit seriously. But no, once this switch is flipped, it cannot be un-flipped. It's a bit like developing an alter-ego - I guess that's why a lot of relatives/partners describe it being of uncanny, body-snatching thing. But your alter-ego still doesn't have to be narcissistic and creepy.

Well shit, I respect the honesty, and freak or not, the fact you're aware of it puts you ahead of the curve.
And yeah, your last point about not having to be narcissistic and creepy is really the catching point, it's not the dressing like the opposite sex thing that inspires the disgust, or even (and this is a point of contention) the fetish shit itself, as without the exhibitionism and the perverse glee in inflicting it on everyone else, not one would even fucking know about it, its the histrionics that make the people that don't like you guys so grossed out.
Personally if you're self aware, you're not a fucking creep that tries to draw (especially kids) other people into it, and it's legitimately just more comfortable for you to LARP as a woman, then whatever, knock yourself out as far as I'm concerned. I'll still probably laugh about you if I see you in public, but as long as you're not being repellent for the sake of it I won't do it to your face.
It's only the loud annoying ones that get the fucking hate, and they deserve every bit of it.
That said, given the power, I would quarantine you guys so you couldn't even accidentally spread the cognito hazard (it is a social contagion, the huge increase in numbers over the past ten years is irrefutable on that point) but it would be in self enclosed camps with your own theater, hospital, swimming pools, shops, the works, self contained communities with everything you needed, just with a big fence around to prevent leaving. That or maybe an island somewhere, say Madagascar...
In all seriousness though, you don't seem all that bad, you're obviously not one of the ridiculous clowns currently freaking out about the Bad Britbong TERF Lady. Its always good to hear opinions from the other side of the table, echo chambers stifle thought and discussion and only small minds require or feel comfortable in them.
So once again, welcome.

 

[vomitusdeux]

@Procrastinhater yeah I mean, I'm not an "old-school tranny" in the sense of being "core trans", HSTS or what have you. I honestly shudder to face the truth that I am, ultimately, from the same breed as the creepiest fucks out there, I don't get the "old tranny" points. I am a full-blown man who decided to undergo dangerous physical therapy (after much lamentation and angst about it) because it seems like it really is the life I want to live. I'm one of the bad ones, hun, save your pearl-clutching sympathy for someone else

I don't think there is an "alternative treatment", philias are sexual orientations and are, according to all of the psychiatric research from the last century, immutable. Unless you believe that Trans Lobby went back and lobbied for those, too, that's just how it is. The alternative is to suck it up if urges are not that bad, but then statistics say chances are you'll blow your lid clean off by the forties.
I don't think an "alternative treatment" is needed. "Talking it out with a shrink" doesn't work for sexual orientations. I talked to a good shrink for five years, I took that shit seriously. But no, once this switch is flipped, it cannot be un-flipped. It's a bit like developing an alter-ego - I guess that's why a lot of relatives/partners describe it being of uncanny, body-snatching thing. But your alter-ego still doesn't have to be narcissistic and creepy.

You're not a narcissistic creep trying to get into women's spaces, and don't deny your own biology. You're the 1% of trannies I don't care about existing, I'm not gonna pat the good trannies on the back and say you're a real woman now though. Sure you're a degenerate but if you stay out of my spaces and don't do your BDSM stuff in public. I don't give a fuck.

However, the switch can actually be unflipped. If you don't want it to, that's fine. But to say you CAN'T would deny detransitioners exist. It can, you just enjoy your life style. Which is your choice. If you ever wanted to leave it. That's possible, but it has to be what you want in the first place.

 

[Vingle]

You're not a narcissistic creep trying to get into women's spaces, and don't deny your own biology.

He is denying his own biology, if he's trying to get into women spaces like changing rooms. It may not be narcissistic, but it is god damn creepy to have a man pretending to be a woman in your exclusively woman place.

 

[vomitusdeux]

He is denying his own biology, if he's trying to get into women spaces like changing rooms. It may not be narcissistic, but it is god damn creepy to have a man pretending to be a woman in your exclusively woman place.

The ones not getting into women's spaces I'm fine with. I just ignore them entirely, still think they're gross but I don't say anything. I don't want trannies in my spaces. I think that's a reasonable feeling to have. Men and Women both should be allowed to have spaces free of each other, trannies included.

 

[Bubble Ba'ath]

@Eden Seeker Welcome. As I have mentioned myself earlier in the peak trans thread, I used to be a pro TRA person who flipped when it went from knowing one cool troon to being forced to being aware of an insane evangelical-ish troon culture trying to colonize every hobby, political discussion, and subculture. Despite what many people think, this forum doesnt have a default ideological setting, its really the last gasp of an old school internet where lots of different people exist in one place to shitpost and marvel at the awe-full ness of what others willingly put out in public about themselves.

 

[TouchFluffyTail]

I was astounded by my kid's astureness in his observation: "they're all pick-me's".

If this isn't fake and gay, then I think your kid is an absolute chad. You're a good parent and raised a child w/ good critical thinking.

 

[Sarcastic sockpuppet]

My nigga, kids are mean to everyone who stands out in any way. Kids can be brutal. And if he doesn't detroon before he finishes school and into his 20s, he will have caused a lot of damage to his social life and by extension mental health by that point. It's a loss/loss situation. Pretty horrifying.
Letting a chuuni aged kid with social anxiety transition at all is a terrible decision. Kid needs his parents to help him fix his self esteem and his relations with others, not for them to let him freely run both into the ground by making a clown out of himself.

But precisely, both trans and detrans kids aren't so unique anymore because now in some classes you have a lot of gender specials, plus those in the medias.

 

[Xenomorph.]

Just 2 semi short stories to add for the thread

First story
Been on the internet for as long as I can remember
Grew up on video games, found a friend group with a guy in it. Always super feminine, liked MLP, anime, ended up going into programming, ect. He was gay for the longest time, and of course struggled with the typical horrendous self esteem they all do. Never felt comfortable with himself. As of now since I met him its been almost 10 years. He went MTF trans at around 2020, got bottom surgery barely A YEAR LATER. COCK GONE ALREADY. I ended up arguing with him before, telling him probably in the most brutal way possible "Youve never acted like a girl, you do not look like a girl, nothing you ever do, surgery or not, will change this. You need to reconsider getting surgery so quickly" Slowly distanced after that, and of course he went for it anyways, figures. Every year or so he'll message/call , and I shit you not this is how it goes.
After 3 minute small talk, he asks "Are you still transphobic?"
I respond "Yes"
He goes "Oh, I see"
Proceeds to quickly cut off conversation and dips


Second story
PRE CONTEXT; My borderline crazy Aunt has a daughter who has struggled as long as I can remember. My cousin ended up getting most of her fathers genes, being like 5'9 for a girl and not feminine in the slightest. On top of this they thought she was autistic, they spent thousands trying to diagnose her, but to whatever avail. No friends, parents unironically bought her a 2,000 fur suit, greasy, depressed beyond belief, and of course in her room 24/7 on the internet the last time I saw her.

It was around November this past year, trying to fly back (Hard Leftist state) to see some family for Christmas. Long story short my Mother cut off a lot of her family, including her sister for drama reasons. I haven't seen a lot of them since I was pre-highschool. That includes my Moms sister. But I wanted to see if I could reconnect with my Aunt, so I go to text her.
Get a call, conversation ensues, I ask her about my (girl) cousin.
She dances around using her name, which instantly set off my fucking radar. We end up getting off the phone before I could ask directly. She ends up texting me about it instead, saying:
"(Cousin) has changed"
"What do you mean shes changed?"
Proceeds to send me picture of my cousin in a suit and beard. Apparently shes thought she was a boy since 12 mother fucking years old. I put it all together after I saw that picture. My mind runs this train of thought; I'm 100% sure the internet cult convinced her she was trans. And I say these next words with the most visceral amount of venom possible; Instead of taking responsibility for her child struggling in the environment that SHE facilitated, and take a step back to reflect as parent, she goes with it. She goes with her 12 year old telling a fantasy. She transitioned my cousin as the golden scapegoat to explain her suffering instead of acknowledging it was her horrible parenting. Instantly made up my mind that I didn't plan on seeing her, and called her later in the week to break the news. This is how I remember it went:
"So (Aunt), I don't think I'm gonna be able to come to your house."
"Oh that's a shame, why not?"
"Because I'm not going to call (cousin) a boy, It goes against what I believe in"
"Oh, well then you're right. I'm glad you told me, because if you're going to be disrespectful then I don't want you in my home"
"Its actually not disrespectful, the fact that shes pretending to be a boy is"
Argument ensues
I shit you not, she proceeds to use my depression when I was a child as a pissing contest, saying it was nothing compared to my cousins.
I basically say without saying it, that she did a shit job as a parent.
Obviously she gets offended, threatens to hang up on me if I don't lower my voice. Last thing I heard was her choking back a sob as I was yelling at her.
I ended up blocking her within in a couple days.


And if anyone wants to say "How could you cut off family like that" or "You overstepped too much"
Yeah, I did overstep definitely. As for cutting her off, I'm sorry but I have no tolerance policy. Shes ruined my cousins life, and the next time I see my Aunt is probably gonna be at that poor girls fucking funeral. Anyone involved in transitioning a child is lower than scum to me, and I don't ever want to be associated with them. The amount of scorn and disgust I have is beyond words.

So anyway I was taking a quick situational check of my middle school kid's social media (I feel horrible about doing it, but when you have a kid that is online, you need to occasionally peep in to not see if there's no grooming or other shenannigans).

It appears his old elementary school friend - a girl who I'll call Dianne - has an older 14 year old sister - Emily - with a very recent big old dose of social contagion and is now "gay and trans". Trans as in - everyone else is so she must also be - and "gay" because Emily has a "boyfriend" which is too much of a teenage status symbol to drop.

I know Emily and she is one of your typical loud attention-seeking but socially awkward isotope of teenage girl and of course I could see her jumping loudly and obnoxiously on the FTM bandwagon.

My kid and his friend lamented the LGBT in their respective middle schools, and how it was such an overwhelming popularity thing as the "trans" student gets uplifted as stunning and brave and every other kid feels jealous and left out unless they too become trans. I was astounded by my kid's astureness in his observation: "they're all pick-me's".

I hope Emily's mother gets through these next few years. What a fucking headache.

I feel the pain on snooping, but its 100% necessary, especially with the indoctrination/contagion on the internet recently. But I just wanted to say your kid is sharp, props to you and bless your family.

 

[PBR Streetgang]

You guys do whatever but I will remain skeptical regarding all troons including the "one-of-the-good-ones" guys. Too often they end up basking in the attention of being one-of-the-good-ones and dominate spaces/threads. They're also all perverted but in a totally fun respectful private way! Sure, buddy.

 

[RazorBackBacon]

So instead of shitting up the thread I'll actually contribute my story.

I had this friend, lets call her Suzie. Suzie was a bit of an aspie and "one of the guys" type of girls; not really a tomboy, but felt comfortable around guys and shared a lot of stereotypically male interests. Well Suzie would sometimes have what she called "boy days;" days where she'd dress as masculine as possible. We'd always treat Suzie a little softer on her boy days, because she always seemed extra touchy about things. A little more sensitive to banter, a little more quick to storm off in a huff.

So one day I'm out chilling with Suzie, having a smoke, just me and her. We're talking bad relationships, and Suzie trumps mine because she got groomed by a creep when she was 14. I'd known this already, but then she drops that she still has pretty severe nightmares about it. And I ask, in the gentlest way possible, "Are those the days you dress like a boy?"

Suzie: "Yes."

I'm quiet for a long bit, and don't let anything show. Then, as casually as I can I say "Sounds like it's a coping mechanism."

It's Suzies turn to be quiet. Then she says "I never thought of it like that."

She never had a boy day after that. Maybe she had a breakthrough, maybe it was the new anti-depressents they got her on not long after our talk. I don't know, I'm no psychiatrist.

 

[Fapcop]

Just 2 semi short stories to add for the thread

First story
Been on the internet for as long as I can remember
Grew up on video games, found a friend group with a guy in it. Always super feminine, liked MLP, anime, ended up going into programming, ect. He was gay for the longest time, and of course struggled with the typical horrendous self esteem they all do. Never felt comfortable with himself. As of now since I met him its been almost 10 years. He went MTF trans at around 2020, got bottom surgery barely A YEAR LATER. COCK GONE ALREADY. I ended up arguing with him before, telling him probably in the most brutal way possible "Youve never acted like a girl, you do not look like a girl, nothing you ever do, surgery or not, will change this. You need to reconsider getting surgery so quickly" Slowly distanced after that, and of course he went for it anyways, figures. Every year or so he'll message/call , and I shit you not this is how it goes.
After 3 minute small talk, he asks "Are you still transphobic?"
I respond "Yes"
He goes "Oh, I see"
Proceeds to quickly cut off conversation and dips


Second story
PRE CONTEXT; My borderline crazy Aunt has a daughter who has struggled as long as I can remember. My cousin ended up getting most of her fathers genes, being like 5'9 for a girl and not feminine in the slightest. On top of this they thought she was autistic, they spent thousands trying to diagnose her, but to whatever avail. No friends, parents unironically bought her a 2,000 fur suit, greasy, depressed beyond belief, and of course in her room 24/7 on the internet the last time I saw her.

It was around November this past year, trying to fly back (Hard Leftist state) to see some family for Christmas. Long story short my Mother cut off a lot of her family, including her sister for drama reasons. I haven't seen a lot of them since I was pre-highschool. That includes my Moms sister. But I wanted to see if I could reconnect with my Aunt, so I go to text her.
Get a call, conversation ensues, I ask her about my (girl) cousin.
She dances around using her name, which instantly set off my fucking radar. We end up getting off the phone before I could ask directly. She ends up texting me about it instead, saying:
"(Cousin) has changed"
"What do you mean shes changed?"
Proceeds to send me picture of my cousin in a suit and beard. Apparently shes thought she was a boy since 12 mother fucking years old. I put it all together after I saw that picture. My mind runs this train of thought; I'm 100% sure the internet cult convinced her she was trans. And I say these next words with the most visceral amount of venom possible; Instead of taking responsibility for her child struggling in the environment that SHE facilitated, and take a step back to reflect as parent, she goes with it. She goes with her 12 year old telling a fantasy. She transitioned my cousin as the golden scapegoat to explain her suffering instead of acknowledging it was her horrible parenting. Instantly made up my mind that I didn't plan on seeing her, and called her later in the week to break the news. This is how I remember it went:
"So (Aunt), I don't think I'm gonna be able to come to your house."
"Oh that's a shame, why not?"
"Because I'm not going to call (cousin) a boy, It goes against what I believe in"
"Oh, well then you're right. I'm glad you told me, because if you're going to be disrespectful then I don't want you in my home"
"Its actually not disrespectful, the fact that shes pretending to be a boy is"
Argument ensues
I shit you not, she proceeds to use my depression when I was a child as a pissing contest, saying it was nothing compared to my cousins.
I basically say without saying it, that she did a shit job as a parent.
Obviously she gets offended, threatens to hang up on me if I don't lower my voice. Last thing I heard was her choking back a sob as I was yelling at her.
I ended up blocking her within in a couple days.


And if anyone wants to say "How could you cut off family like that" or "You overstepped too much"
Yeah, I did overstep definitely. As for cutting her off, I'm sorry but I have no tolerance policy. Shes ruined my cousins life, and the next time I see my Aunt is probably gonna be at that poor girls fucking funeral. Anyone involved in transitioning a child is lower than scum to me, and I don't ever want to be associated with them. The amount of scorn and disgust I have is beyond words.

Nah man. You didn’t overstep.

Society wouldn't expect you to politely tapdance around someone’s actions and failures if they had pimped out their kids to pedos, or got their kids addicted to drugs.

Trooning out your kid is ruining their life, even if it’s “acceptable” among parts of polite society.

Fuck that “their body their choice” jazz. It’s time we take more responsibility for each other, and yes: Bring back shaming.