Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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I did ask for advice so I’m not going to give you any crap for giving advice, but half the fuckboys/men in my city have one.
Imagine a sane person justifying poor look choices by "all fuckboys in my town". If

Dear FTM-s, nose rings look retarded regardless of your sex. No one is gonna take seriously a person with a massive piercing in their nose. It's just how adults function, this shit is a mark of teen mentality.
 
This is peak ftm delusion/cope getting smashed by a bunch of dudes who haven't been taught to terminally hugbox and honestly, good. If, instead of getting honest: 'really looking pathetic, try to fix it' feedback you just want your usual ftm feelings massage go talk to them! They can do their ''awesome job, so masc and cis king, never change!!' routine ad nauseum, and nobody has to feel so sad uwu when actual guys are honest because they haven't mastered the art of affirming a costume.
Zippertits: "Hey fellow bro kings, how can I improve my looks?"

Men: "Go to the gym, get a better haircut, stop dressing like a fag, get rid of that ugly nose ring."

Zippertits: "Why are you hurting my feeeeelings?!!" :'(
 
"Over time the smell changes."

I've heard that submarines smell like Satan's outhouse. 120 men pissing, shitting, fapping, and sweating as well as constant cooking smells in a confined space for months on end.

But the people who live on submarines get used to it. Over time, the smell of shit becomes a background smell.
I get it; you're suggesting we house all the post-op transwomen together, in a series of long-patrol submarines.

You've got my vote! It's a much better solution than what we're doing currently.
 
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d00leys is one of our worst offenders and I personally find her a horrowcow. It is so sick and wrong how she spends *all fucking day* lying online to vulnerable mental patients about the outcomes of a non-evidence-based cosmetic surgery. Her only joy in life appears to be via tyrannical oversight of her subreddit, in which she carefully and obsessively polices not only real and normal questions and concerns about a life-altering medical procedure with stratospheric complication rates, but even the very words that women are permitted to use to describe their own bodies.

"Results" is not a bad word, retard. And news flash: women can pee in the woods any time they want, and they don't have to do so through a horrifying swiss cake roll flesh-golem.
The combination of the constant cope posting, the way she's very careful to avoid any pics of her rotdog getting out (even while posting pics of her pissing to satisfy her piss fetish she blocks out the flesh roll) and her freak out and banning the word "results" and way she polices her sub for any negative or regretful posts, all that ontop of the sheer amount of revisions amd catheters she's had, tells me d00leys had something go hilariously wrong with her rotdog, wether it went necrotic and split open like Yucca, or has ended up all curly with hardened scar tissue like Elephant Dick, something has made her deeply insecure about her RESULTS and has lead to her vindictive and petty attitude to the other Pooners who go to her sub looking for help.
I'm pretty sure she found this thread which triggered her into the snarkposting on that new phallocircle jerk sub she set up, maybe to try and show she didnt care, and when we started laughing at her for obviously being butthurt it looks like she may be DFEing.
Tbh it's probably a good thing for other Pooners, d00leys is incredibly vindictive and seems to revel in the thought that other women will be as miserable as her, like how she calls any criticism "misinformation" and doesn't bat an eyelid at directing these naive women to surgeons even other professionals in the genderspecial field refer to as "butchers."
d00leys is incredibly psychologically damaged but she's also no doubt contributed to the misery and regret of dozens of confused young women who have the misfortune to be naive enough to believe her cope posts.
 
Lol at the r/malegrooming pooner, one of my fav genres of posts is FTMs being treated like a guy by actual men for once and running away crying.

Here's a Dr. Santucci (Crane Center) metoidioplasty victim from transbucket. She is going to be stuck with a catheter for 6 months before attempting revision.

Butcher: Dr. Santucci, Richard
Procedure: meta - release, ul, scrotoplasty, and vaginectomy
Complications: Stricture fistula failed UL Wants revision
Post-op Sensation: Five Stars
Post-op Satisfaction: Three Stars
Submitter: nacnac
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Her story:
I began the process of doing bottom surgery at the beginning of 2022. This making appointments after researching some of the top surgeons, getting my letters together, and going on consults.

Hysterectomy/partial vaginectomy had been completed by Dr. Weinstein at Mass General Hospital is Boston, MA, which was June 2022. I did keep my right ovary, all the rest was removed and the canal was closed up to the first couple of cm of the opening so I could still urinate. Meta/UL/Scrotoplasty was done December 2022 with Dr. Santucci of the Crane Center. Both of these surgeons were the best in regards to making you feel heard and comfortable. Fortunately, their skills are just as desirable.

Metoidioplasty/UL/Scrotoplasty with complications starting one week post op. Everything looked great at the one week post op appointment. The first time emptying the catheter bag with a flip flow valve (using my own bladder to hold urine), urine came out both the catheter tube and the neourethra causing the UL to blow out the entire length of my phallus. There was a lot more swelling and fistulas developed under my scrotum and the side of my phallus too. Plans were made to do the repair surgery in 6 months from the third post op appointment. In the meantime it was expected that I would just void through the wide opening between my phallus and scrotum.

Two weeks later it closed and I went to the ER. Unfortunately I had a very bad experience with a non trans friendly urologist and ended up with another SPT and a number of incisions across my abdomen so he could find my bladder with his eyes instead of instruments (like a scope laparoscopically or ultrasound). I went to Mass General to see Dr. Wintner who is part of a transgender team in Boston. He was not confident to dilate my urethra and suggested to wait 6 months until my body is fully healed.

My next plan of action is to go back to Santucci, who I really like and trust (so far) at about 3 months post op to get a dilation and maybe urethroplasty (if I'm lucky). Then in July repair the rest of my phallus, lift the phallus and scrotum, and attempt a fat graft instead of testicle implants.

My main goal is to STP without any prosthetics, so if this ends up failing, I will seek phalloplasty. Over the course of this past year, I have consulted with the following surgeons, Miro, Cetrulo, Santucci, Kent, Freet, Chen. I originally wanted abdominal phalloplasty, but most the surgeons I spoke to did not want to do it.

The cost of $5400 was my out of pocket max which was reached before I actually had meta by going on consults and the hysterectomy. I did keep a spreadsheet of everything I spent money on for this, which included hotels, gas, out of pocket max, medical supplies etc. I spent about $10k total. I will probably be spending about the same for 2023 year from getting the revisions and care for complications.

Despite the complications, I have no regrets about attempting bottom surgery. There are some things in hindsight I would have done differently had I known. I wouldn't have let my bladder get so full the first time I was exercising it after a week of a catheter. I would have established a follow up apt and gone to a trans friendly urologist in my area after surgery instead of waiting to go to an ER where it's a crap shoot if you get someone who know the anatomy of a trans guy.

I absolutely love having a smooth perineum, and I love my scrotum more than I expected. Looking forward to getting through the rest of this process. I know it's going to be a long road.
comment about experience consulting with Dr. Miro at Mt Sinai:
Dr. Miro at Mt. Sinai was my first consult back in May of 2022. It was a great one stop shop if I knew I wanted to go with that team. However it kind of sucked to have to pay for all the therapy and counselor meeetings along with lab work when I had all my letters and labs already. They even had me take a nicotine test and pregnancy test when I no longer had fallopian tubes or uterine lining. Since I was planning on meeting my out of pocket max for the year, it was not that big of a deal and I had a cool 3 day trip to NYC. I unfortunately had a very bad gut feeling about Miro as he didn't listen to a single thing I said. I wanted abdominal without implants and he kept trying to talk to me about MLD and RFF, and he was actaully really rough grabbing my lats and squeezing telling me I need to lose all my muscle and that will give me a good size penis good for penetration. I kept trying to explain I wanted a very modest size, less than 5" and abdominal. Then he kept talking about what arm was my dominant, which I am ambidextrous. Again, I tried to explain I am only interested in abdominal but he just kept interrupting me. He finally listened to me and had me pull my pants down and he aggressively grabbed my pubic region saying I wasn't going to have much length. Then he said he does meta first anyway and then we can talk about next steps after he does meta and implants. I had to remind him that I did not want implants. I really just didn't trust he would honor what I was looking for in results based on the horrifying experience during the consult. His office did try to call me twice throughout the year to get me scheduled, to which I kept declining. I may still be interested in abdominal if its still possible considering I have a new incision scar across the top of my pubic area. Thanks for your well wishes and I wish the same for you!
 
This one sounds more understable than that tranny's "voice" :
This is absolutely delightful, thank you for sharing. I love stuff like this that shows that our ancestors were more like us than we know.

This comment on nose ring lmao

Imagine a sane person justifying poor look choices by "all fuckboys in my town". If

Dear FTM-s, nose rings look retarded regardless of your sex. No one is gonna take seriously a person with a massive piercing in their nose. It's just how adults function, this shit is a mark of teen mentality.
I love that she ASKED for advice but immediately gets defensive and deletes her account when it's not all asspats and "SLAY KANG!" Really tells you everything about the kind of person who voluntarily chops their genitals to bits.
 
@batteredpancakes

First, bless you for doing the copy paste. I'm at the intersection of lifetime myopia and a recently acquired appreciation of larger type (i.e., I'm getting old), and whether I'm in my contacts, glasses, or just holding the phone close, peering at tiny screenshots is giving me frown lines I don't want - I & my vanity appreciate the effort for the copy paste!

Anyway, trappedinabocks seems like a nice person who still needs some therapy to distinguish between the impact of being viewed a certain way vs how you consider yourself. She's gone through all this stuff and is still feeling low that she feels trans/like a man but actually was not born male. On the one hand, I appreciate those folks who don't go fucking insane and insist they have literally transubstantiated into a different biological creature via surgery, hormones, presentation, and function in the world; it's okay to be a trans-whatever and to live however*. But if you have not pretzeled your brain into believing that essentially cosmetic efforts to bring your appearance into alignment with your desired gender's typical appearance have actually changed your biology and your existence has changed biological certainties as a whole discipline**, then you might still have some therapeutic work to do post-cosmetic surgery to get to where you feel okay that the connection between your body and brain was so disconnected that you had to undergo massive medical intervention and daily, lifetime effort to get your body closer to what will feel "OK" to live in. For the more earnest among the surgical trans patients, absent inverting reality and demanding others do, too, like so many do, ahem d00leys, there's still a schism to be reckoned with, and possibly disappointment, if being a trans-whatever still hasn't got you where you want to be.

*there are all flavors of trans people, many of whom are - related to but not purely for that reason - well deserving of mockery here. I'll depart from some fellow farmers and say that I also believe that some are to be pitied or given compassion for the obvious unhappiness and struggle, and that there are also trans people who are sane, balanced, productive, really great people. You don't see them featured at KF because sane, balanced, productive, really great people don't make loud, idiotic, public spectacles of themselves day in and day out.

** or that a subjective sense of "how you feel" is a greater determiner of biology than actual, objective, observable biology

Edited to spoiler a thunk piece that got long. And to affirm that d00leys is a fucking menace.
 
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Here's a Dr. Santucci (Crane Center) metoidioplasty victim from transbucket. She is going to be stuck with a catheter for 6 months before attempting revision.
I’ve seen all the horrors this thread has to offer and still, STILL, you’ve made me stare at my screen muttering “what the fuck is that supposed to be.” So hats off to you for that accomplishment.

Genuinely though, what is going on here? It’s like a big clit but why get surgery for that? I truly am a bit lost.
 
This comment on nose ring lmao

Imagine a sane person justifying poor look choices by "all fuckboys in my town". If

Dear FTM-s, nose rings look retarded regardless of your sex. No one is gonna take seriously a person with a massive piercing in their nose. It's just how adults function, this shit is a mark of teen mentality.
Isn't being a fuckboy a bad thing?
I don't know where she's from, but where I'm from, I do not see straight white men with nose rings. Gay white men, sure. Black and Latino men, sure. Straight white men, no.
Also...a long sleeved t-shirt under a short sleeved t-shirt? Who wears that in 2023?

I've been thinking about this thread with the recent discourse over trans regret. My feeling on the one hand is that we as a society can't ban everything people might regret later, because that's every possible human action. If you get your tits cut off and later you wish you didn't, is that someone else's problem? On the other hand, SRS is so bad. The results on here are horrifying. Even the troons who don't detrans regret getting it.
 
Isn't being a fuckboy a bad thing?
I don't know where she's from, but where I'm from, I do not see straight white men with nose rings. Gay white men, sure. Black and Latino men, sure. Straight white men, no.
Also...a long sleeved t-shirt under a short sleeved t-shirt? Who wears that in 2023?

I've been thinking about this thread with the recent discourse over trans regret. My feeling on the one hand is that we as a society can't ban everything people might regret later, because that's every possible human action. If you get your tits cut off and later you wish you didn't, is that someone else's problem? On the other hand, SRS is so bad. The results on here are horrifying. Even the troons who don't detrans regret getting it.
Man, it's funny just because this justification manifests the transition goal - "a fuckboy". She didn't transition to a man, gay or straight. She transitioned into "a fuckboy".
 
Can’t directly reply to @Tard Whisperer so quoting post

I’ve seen all the horrors this thread has to offer and still, STILL, you’ve made me stare at my screen muttering “what the fuck is that supposed to be.” So hats off to you for that accomplishment.

Genuinely though, what is going on here? It’s like a big clit but why get surgery for that? I truly am a bit lost.
it's called metoidioplasty. After about 1.5-3 years taking testosterone, their clit becomes enlarged enough that it protrudes.
ex. from Jamie Reed article:
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"Meta" is supposed to "release" the clit and sew underneath so that it protrudes further and looks more like a micropenis. Some of them also get urethral lengthening using a graft from inside their cheeks to extend and re-route their urethra through the clit. some also get skin sewed to look like scrotal tissue and can get implants inside so they look more like balls.
The supposed benefits for them are being able to stand to pee and generally having it look more like a penis. A lot of times it barely looks different at all afterward and some still can't stand to pee. And some can no longer pee at all and rely on catheters until they get repair surgeries!

Remember, trans 👏healthcare 👏is👏 healthcare👏!
 
it's called metoidioplasty. After about 1.5-3 years taking testosterone, their clit becomes enlarged enough that it protrudes.
ex. from Jamie Reed article:
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"Meta" is supposed to "release" the clit and sew underneath so that it protrudes further and looks more like a micropenis. Some of them also get urethral lengthening using a graft from inside their cheeks to extend and re-route their urethra through the clit. some also get skin sewed to look like scrotal tissue and can get implants inside so they look more like balls.
The supposed benefits for them are being able to stand to pee and generally having it look more like a penis. A lot of times it barely looks different at all afterward and some still can't stand to pee. And some can no longer pee at all and rely on catheters until they get repair surgeries!

Remember, trans 👏healthcare 👏is👏 healthcare👏!
Metoidoplastys are fucking disgusting.
In some ways they look even worse that the flesh roll rotdogs, they just look foul, like something you'd see on one of those things from "The Hills Have Eyes" I mean yeah, rotdogs are gross, but they're at least funny, even necrotic messes like Yucca's or that weird fucking stomach tentacle that Elephant Dick has, but those mutated Metroid Clits aren't even funny to me, they just inspire instant visceral revulsion, I don't know why these women would want to look like Lovecraftian Horrors with genitals like fucking female Hyenas, but then I remember they are completely bat shit insane.
 
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Alright so d00leys has deleted all her posts and comments which means she's very likely has been made aware of this thread.
If you want to say anything to her I suggest you do it now as she's likely reading.

Hey Bert!
Good thing I saved photos lol. She made a private phallo thread for more privacy for post op.

HI BERT. You're insane and I really can't tell if you're a troll or not sometimes whose leading other TiFs to unsatisfactory result armroll death.
 
"Over time the smell changes."

I've heard that submarines smell like Satan's outhouse. 120 men pissing, shitting, fapping, and sweating as well as constant cooking smells in a confined space for months on end.

But the people who live on submarines get used to it. Over time, the smell of shit becomes a background smell.

Then the submarine docks in Honolulu for shore leave and the men enjoy the smell of fresh air for a few days, and when they get back to the ship, there it is: Satan's outhouse.

Am I suggesting that this man has become inured to the 24/7 smell of shit from his leaking colon tissue? Perhaps.
There is a charming saying for this which is that ‘foxes don’t smell their own holes.’
Dooleys is a case of someone who cannot accept their own error, and who copes with it by getting other people to make the same error. This is basically what susie green did in Mermaids - ‘I castrated my son and my conscience vaguely told me this was bad but if a few thousand other people castrate their kids I’ll feel better.’ I have absolutely zero sympathy for her. She is the living embodiment of misery creating its own company. Something must have gone very wrong - more than even the ‘good result’ level of badness. She can’t accept that, to do so would cause existential injury. But of a few hundred others do the same thing then she’s no longer monstrous, she’s just normal.
I started off feeling v sorry for FtMs, amd that’s evaporating rapidly - a large number of them are as predatory and unpleasant and perverted as then mtfs. It just manifests differently.
MtF, becasue they are male, demand open obedience woth the threat of violence
FtM, becasue they are female, twist people psychologically until they have power over them.
 
I think one thing that really bugs me about d00leys with these snarky posts is that these are people, her "kind", asking questions about a very serious procedure. I understand some of these questions sound absurd, but what I'm reading from her condescending posts is, "don't ask questions ever, idiot" and it's honestly disturbing to me. Asking questions is how we learn, and if you get shamed for asking questions in your own community, that's pretty bad. Cultish, dare I say.

Hard agree with everyone else saying she's a psycho who refuses to acknowledge any negative effects of GRS.

Dooley's behavior, and others like her, were half the reason for the OP. not just the surgeons making a quick buck experimenting, but the community hurting itself with this shit. dooley is a human summary of the problem.
 
Metoidoplastys are fucking disgusting.
In some ways they look even worse that the flesh roll rotdogs, they just look foul, like something you'd see on one of those things from "The Hills Have Eyes" I mean yeah, rotdogs are gross, but they're at least funny, even necrotic messes like Yucca's or that weird fucking stomach tentacle that Elephant Dick has, but those mutated Metroid Clits aren't even funny to me, they just inspire instant visceral revulsion, I don't know why these women would want to look like Lovecraftian Horrors with genitals like fucking female Hyenas, but then I remember they are completely bat shit insane.
I actually contemplated making a post like this a few weeks ago. For me, I think it's that the metioidoplasty results are still recognizable as clitorises. Yeah, phalloplasties and neovaginas are uniformly awful, but they don't resemble human genitals at all. Those surgeries attempt to create something that wasn't there before using the mangled remnants of the preexisting genitals, whereas a metioidoplasty just leaves the butchered tissue in situ. You can look at a neovagina or a rotdog and not really even recognize it; it's like your brain just refuses to see it as human genitalia.

Seeing a clitoris butchered like that, though, is absolutely horrifying. For those of us who own one, it's really uncomfortable to look at metioidoplasty results knowing how ungodly painful it must be to do that to yourself.
 
it's called metoidioplasty. After about 1.5-3 years taking testosterone, their clit becomes enlarged enough that it protrudes.
ex. from Jamie Reed article:
View attachment 4637216

"Meta" is supposed to "release" the clit and sew underneath so that it protrudes further and looks more like a micropenis. Some of them also get urethral lengthening using a graft from inside their cheeks to extend and re-route their urethra through the clit. some also get skin sewed to look like scrotal tissue and can get implants inside so they look more like balls.
The supposed benefits for them are being able to stand to pee and generally having it look more like a penis. A lot of times it barely looks different at all afterward and some still can't stand to pee. And some can no longer pee at all and rely on catheters until they get repair surgeries!

Remember, trans 👏healthcare 👏is👏 healthcare👏!
The rotdogs, the engorged clits, metoidoplasty… It’s all fucking horrible and disgusting, but it’s different kind of disgusting.

(And yeah, the rotdogs at least have some comedy value.)

Rotdogs look like something a goofy, crazy professor might have dreamt up.

It’s horrible, but it’s a slapstick, crazy kind of horrible. Like something two doctors might have thought up at Dachau after a night of schnapps and amphetamines.

The mutant clits though? That’s a whole different kind of horror. Like Fallout body horror. It’s not slapstick, but “I felt in a chemical waste disposal tank and now my clit looks like this!”
 
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