Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

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prolapsed_cranium said:
Shilling for globolhomo. Levin's a sellout
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Levins always been an AIPAC guy. BRICS has Iran involved. Therefore he has to side against the enemy of Israel.

As long as Israel isn't involved, and he's speaking on US domestic issues. Then he's probably between Hannity and Tucker.
 
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Belarus had an airbase just bombed.

China is now sending arms to Russia.

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Yes. Ukraine is winning so hard they're causing people not even involved in this to join in. Belarus, that is not Russia, just got bombed and may now have casus belli to join in. Now China's aiding Russia and pretty much asking the U.S., "Whatchagonnadoaboutit?"
 
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Doctor Professor Timon said:

Belarus had an airbase just bombed.

China is now sending arms to Russia.

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Yes. Ukraine is winning so hard they're causing people not even involved in this to join in. Belarus, that is not Russia, just got bombed and may now have casus belli to join in. Now China's aiding Russia and pretty much asking the U.S., "Whatchagonnadoaboutit?"
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I'm not hearing anything on my side. Other than the recent story of Ukraine drone damaging a Belarusian AWACS
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So what channels do you guys watch on Telegram? I usually catch up on Slavyangrad and Intel Slava Z. I'm curious if there's any more channels that feel a bit more objective. Sometimes the cheerleading feels like glossing over very real issues of corruption and incompetence. I'm fairly sure that based on superiority in materiel and personnel the Russians will win through attrition if nothing else, and Ukraine and Ukrainians will have to learn to live with their bigger, more powerful neighbor, and there is no natural alliance or affinity between Ukraine and the US. There's a constant stream of narrative that makes me doubt my assessments though, and I'm the only person in my social circle who isn't completely brainfucked by either reflexive pro-American views or uncritical understanding of the MSM's function as state propaganda. Often feel like I'm unable to verify what I see and read.

I used to read and trust Moon of Alabama back in the day, but bernhard for some reason promoted that coach redpill is a journalist thing, which fucking devastated my ability to trust him, and his complete wrongness about the buildup to the war was frustrating enough.

Also, what's the outlook after Bakhmut falls? It's a couple of weeks away at this point from either full encirclement and most of the city being taken, but after that, how does the front develop?
 
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Aidan said:
The Tank Museum has a "Top 5" video on tanks going to the Ukraine. The curator, David Willey, is set in his ways on saying "the Ukraine"; I'm surprised they didn't make it a point to tell him to stop that. Not all of the info is accurate but to be fair it's a mess on who is sending what when.

  1. Notion of Leopard 2s being notable because official support for them is in Europe, so NATO can support those best.
    • I think that's very optimistic.
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According to Southfront (I know, by no means the most unbiased source), most of the NATO countries or NATO aligned (Sweden and Finland) are refusing to give up their Leopard 2s.

And I mean, that makes sense if they legitimately think there's a threat of Russian invasion in the future - I wouldn't want to give them up either.
 
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Zelensky said at a press conference late last week in reference to the US public...
"If they do not change their opinion…they will lose NATO, they will lose the clout of the United States, they will lose the leadership position they are enjoying in the world."

The more I see of this guy, the more I realize why Russia is doing what they're doing.

3 years ago I thought this Actor would turn it around as the anti Poreshenko, now Poreshenko looks like a rational alternative Fuck.
 
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Aidan said:
It's mentioned in the Chally, T-72, Leo 2, and Abrams sections of the video. Though really only applies to the Chally and T-72 as they mention the Chally having it (obviously) and some T-72s having modifications inspired by it with unclear efficacy, though it can't hurt.
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Abrams uses Chobham armor as well.
 
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Young (18-19 y/o?) Buryat soldier (RU) recording his adventures in Ukraine, from the battlefield to fooling around and doing dumb shit hanging with his fellow troops. Cool Buryatian throat-singing pop song included.
(one of the best newest-war-clips channels btw, amalgamates RU telegram war vids)
 
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Well this guy reckons Ukraine is doing amazing and will soon launch a massive offensive which will pursue the Vatniks to the gates of Moscow.


OK maybe things in Bakhmut are a tad difficult but he totally expected the city to fall weeks ago (he didn't) and so from that perspective it's going better than expected

Not that anyone can blame him for the cope but here's another Ukrainian holed up in the west and not fighting for his country. He thinks that's fine because he has Danish citizenship so he's totally not a coward and it's fine for him to sit in safety while celebrating the deaths of hundreds of thousands in a Jew war that they have zero parts of fuck all chance of winning . Fuck these people.
 
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Took a look at the Twitter thread, full of #NAFO """""""""operatives"""""""""" (I honestly struggle to find a word to call them) adding nothing of value to the discussion except for "oh yeah well look here's a picture I made that shows how you're stupid and I'm smart".

It's weird how like... 6-8 years ago these are possibly (likely?) the same people who accused everyone of being a Kremlin bot. And yet here we are.
 
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borsabil said:
Well this guy reckons Ukraine is doing amazing and will soon launch a massive offensive which will pursue the Vatniks to the gates of Moscow.


OK maybe things in Bakhmut are a tad difficult but he totally expected the city to fall weeks ago (he didn't) and so from that perspective it's going better than expected

Not that anyone can blame him for the cope but here's another Ukrainian holed up in the west and not fighting for his country. He thinks that's fine because he has Danish citizenship so he's totally not a coward and it's fine for him to sit in safety while celebrating the deaths of hundreds of thousands in a Jew war that they have zero parts of fuck all chance of winning . Fuck these people.
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Why do all these advocates of Ukraine look exactly the same? I swear they must clone these people.
 
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Hoffman Agent 47 said:
Why do all these advocates of Ukraine look exactly the same? I swear they must clone these people.
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Soyjaks who have been given an approved target to thump their chest and talk shit. It’s no different the way American conservatives are given permission to thump their chests about Israel. They’re all cucks who only funnel their pent up suppressed feelings at approved targets.
 
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borsabil said:
Well this guy reckons Ukraine is doing amazing and will soon launch a massive offensive which will pursue the Vatniks to the gates of Moscow.


OK maybe things in Bakhmut are a tad difficult but he totally expected the city to fall weeks ago (he didn't) and so from that perspective it's going better than expected

Not that anyone can blame him for the cope but here's another Ukrainian holed up in the west and not fighting for his country. He thinks that's fine because he has Danish citizenship so he's totally not a coward and it's fine for him to sit in safety while celebrating the deaths of hundreds of thousands in a Jew war that they have zero parts of fuck all chance of winning . Fuck these people.
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I often wonder how these people think the Ukrainians are going to push through the triple lines of trenches, tank obstacles and pill boxes the Russians have set up all over that area.

They got drunk on the so-called 'thunder runs' into areas of the russians had already evacuated.
 
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