Bobposting / Chloe Elselvier Solanders / Miss Voice Training / Chloey Hoey / Bob Smith / Huai Ze Dong - Openly solicits sketchy sex hormones to children. Bathtub estrogen! Self-professed coach for boys who want to sound like girls, doesn't sound like a girl himself.

[Tren Shapiro]

True. Pretty sure estradiol's still illegal to sell without a prescription, though, at least in CA. I looked it up last year during das Keffalkrieg but can't find links at the moment.

It is. It's typically the case that a country's drug laws will treat estradiol like prescription medicine like insulin or statins but will treat testosterone more like a recreational drug or narcotic. Schedule III is where the US has placed both testosterone and ketamine. It's all illegal but buying and selling controlled substances is going to get you fucked a lot harder.

 

[Onni Kalsarikännit]

It does, because depending on the answer, I could gather a lot of information about the guy. But as you can read above, it seems like he just lied about that, so my sources most likely haven't actually heard about him at all.

Also, here you can't get into a good University just by paying for it. It's kinda the opposite of the US: the best universities are free (but you need to get VERY high scores in your SATs) and the worst ones are the private schools. If you can't get into the public schools and still want to be a doctor, you have to come from a very wealthy family, since private med schools cost an average of ten times the local minimum wage per month. If that were his case, it would mean he in fact doesn't need the money from bathtub hormones, so... why would he do it, if not because of his fetish?

Because he is ontologically evil. That's why.

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The post that got highlighted on the front page was the 6th post on page 18. We are now at page 36. This thread has doubled because of a completely other person (Otonokokokokowhatever) than the thread is about (Bobposting). Our Brazilian Walter Troonberg got already doxed and there is a shitload of stuff from a Discord he is involved in.

Maybe it's time to do a dedicated thread on him. Before we got another 300 pages about el Troonshino burying the Bobposting stuff completely?
Maybe some of the more talented guys here can write a nice OPs and a mod just moves the other posts there? Me no hablo English good enough to do a funny OP but I sure can help digging through the thread here and gather information.

 

[Bahnhader]

Maybe it's time to do a dedicated thread on him.

I think there should be a dedicated thread for diy hrt in general there are tons of sellers out there and imo it deserves a thread of its own.

 

[Sprate Header]

Bobposting is allegedly MIA (and as such his thread has been otherwise completely inactive), but his directory is still active, and the rest of the DIY HRT sphere is connected in some way to Huai's directory - why not just use this thread as a catchall for DIY HRT stuff? No need to spread the discussion about this stuff between several different threads.

 

[Onni Kalsarikännit]

I think there should be a dedicated thread for diy hrt in general there are tons of sellers out there and imo it deserves a thread of its own.

Bobposting is allegedly MIA (and as such his thread has been otherwise completely inactive), but his directory is still active, and the rest of the DIY HRT sphere is connected in some way to Huai's directory - why not just use this thread as a catchall for DIY HRT stuff? No need to spread the discussion about this stuff between several different threads.

Was going to respond to Bahnhader but then your post popped up.

Yeah, why not? Thread was dead for months before some tard necro'ed it and since then not really much new content about Bobposting showed up.

I* would just adjust the OP then. Like adjust the thread title and put some general information about DIY HRT in general in it. Like how is this shit done and why it's so dangerous. Then add some basic information about Brasilian troon (dox and short summary) plus a link to the highlighted post to the stuff about Bobposting.

It would be some work but it would also provide a better, more structered summary.


*read: someone who knows about the medical and technical stuff which I don't. Without Bobposting and Onkobongo I wouldn't even know about DIY HRT and I wished I would have never heard about it bc goddamit. But again, I sure can help digging through threads for information and will gladly do so.

 

[Susanna]

I think equally worthy of being in a DIYHRT general is “Lena”, a Ukrainian man who supplied the same market Otokonoko did but in Europe. He’s apparently in charge of https://groups.io/g/MTFHRT and has written a guide on troonshine brewery full of insane rants about how evil doctors are for not dosing any man who asks for it with pregnancy-levels of estrogen on demand. He’s also active in the forum there, generally advising trannies against seeing doctors in favour of using troonshine.

Thankfully it looks like the Russian military intervention put him out of business, presumably he bravely fled from being conscripted on the first train out of Kiev.

 

[Onni Kalsarikännit]

I will start a DM group so we can talk there about the topic of a general DIY HRT thread before we derail the thread too much and people can talk about Okobongo and Bobposting again instead.

If you would like to help or to contribute drop me a DM and I add you.

 

[AN/ALR56]

It seems that he was already in the Brazilian news around Aug-Sep 2020.
I don't have any more info besides these screenshots but they mention that he got caught selling hormones, wasn't arrested, just
moved from Amazonas to Sao Paulo and started a new business:
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Edit - added yt link. Will upload vid in a few...

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I'm gonna do a tl:dr translation of this:

• Brazilian Customs were conducting a random search when they found chemicals.
• During the interview, the tranny claimed that he was purchasing the chemicals from outside and not exporting them. The cargo was confiscated, and it is likely that he realized that the Amazon region, a major manufacturing hub and export area due to the fiscal benefits to develop the region, was under too much scrutiny.
• As a result, he moved his operation to São Paulo, where there is less police presence and much larger exports, making it easier to ship his product without any issues.
• Unfortunately, the officers and journalists were too retarded to read the labels and realize that this was a homemade product, so he got away with it.
• Main issue on the news report is that it's ilegal to export medicine with a personal SSN, not a legal name/company, they seem to be more concerned about revenue and tax tbh.

True. Pretty sure estradiol's still illegal to sell without a prescription, though, at least in CA. I looked it up last year during das Keffalkrieg but can't find links at the moment.

It is. It's typically the case that a country's drug laws will treat estradiol like prescription medicine like insulin or statins but will treat testosterone more like a recreational drug or narcotic. Schedule III is where the US has placed both testosterone and ketamine. It's all illegal but buying and selling controlled substances is going to get you fucked a lot harder.

Doesn't seem to be a major crime here, most he can face is probably a 6 month sentence(which will get suspended) or a fine.
I'm not a brazilian law expert, so i could be wrong, but seeing how most of our fitness youtubers sell or shill for steroids and get no problem, i don't see how a tranny would get much heat here.

 

[Foxymophandlemama]

Last time I saw Otokonoko Pharmaceuticals' CNPJ (I think it's similar to USA's ENI) it was listed as its main activity "Retail sale of food products in general or specialized in food products not otherwise specified (Comércio varejista de produtos alimentícios em geral ou especializado em produtos alimentícios não especificados anteriormente)" and for secondary activities "Retail sale of cosmetics, perfumery and personal hygiene products (Comércio varejista de cosméticos, produtos de perfumaria e de higiene pessoal)" and "Other activities auxiliary to financial services not otherwise specified (Outras atividades auxiliares dos serviços financeiros não especificadas anteriormente)". I'm not sure if those give them permission to make and sell actual estrogen, but I don't know much about Brazilian law.

(edit because I hit send before finishing)
There's no indication of their CNPJ on their website, and there's no indication of an ANVISA (similar to FDA here) registration on their packaging.

 

[Sprate Header]

Last time I saw Otokonoko Pharmaceuticals' CNPJ (I think it's similar to USA's ENI) it was listed as its main activity "Retail sale of food products in general or specialized in food products not otherwise specified (Comércio varejista de produtos alimentícios em geral ou especializado em produtos alimentícios não especificados anteriormente)" and for secondary activities "Retail sale of cosmetics, perfumery and personal hygiene products (Comércio varejista de cosméticos, produtos de perfumaria e de higiene pessoal)" and "Other activities auxiliary to financial services not otherwise specified (Outras atividades auxiliares dos serviços financeiros não especificadas anteriormente)". I'm not sure if those give them permission to make and sell actual estrogen, but I don't know much about Brazilian law.

Nothing says "above board" quite like lying about your products.

 

[Foxymophandlemama]

Yeah, but in this image, it indicates that the actual manufacturer is Beijing Yibai Biotechnology Co., Ltd., so I don't know if that registration allows them to distribute it. However, what stinks is that it apparently doesn't
have an ANVISA registration, like I said above. I don't know if it matters in other countries but yeah. I'm not that smart to get deep into the matters of law and such but it's all I gathered with a quick search.


(Edit, again lol)


ANVISA's website is a little confusing but it seems Otokonoko doesn't have any registrations there.

Nothing with Yibai too.

If there's another Brazilian Kiwi with more experience with registration and stuff to help to look into it with more depth, it would help a lot

(ANOTHER EDIT)

Looked into the government's website, it's all public info. Same CNPJ but the name of the business is different, though same adress and all. The main activity here is different and is listed as "Other activities auxiliary to financial services not previously specified (Outras atividades auxiliares dos serviços financeiros não especificadas anteriormente)" and no secondary activities. Since it is an official website, I believe it's the most up to date information.
I decided to look into the kind of activity you can perform with that registration and here's what it is:
Other auxiliary activities of financial services not previously specified, such as:
#- mortgage brokers
#- the exchange offices
#- financial investment advisory services
#- intermediation services in obtaining loans
Which is... weird.

 

[Nogbertstein]

Guess you could say troons are in a hairy situation

 

[lolwatagain]

It is. It's typically the case that a country's drug laws will treat estradiol like prescription medicine like insulin or statins but will treat testosterone more like a recreational drug or narcotic. Schedule III is where the US has placed both testosterone and ketamine. It's all illegal but buying and selling controlled substances is going to get you fucked a lot harder.

You can still get fucked pretty hard for importing and distributing non-controlled substances, just look at what happened to Joesph Jinn: https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/l...-illegally-importing-ed-drugs-which-were-sold

The feds fucked him pretty hard for his viagra filled "herbal" boner pills. The feds are willing to fuck people pretty hard for illegal importation and the sale of adulterated drugs. And troonshine is definitely adulterated:

Spoiler: Legal shit

Section 501(a)(2)(B) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act provides that a drug (including a drug contained in a medicated feed) shall be deemed to be adulterated if the methods used in, or the facilities or controls used for, its manufacture, processing, packing, or holding do not conform to or are not operated or administered in conformity with current good manufacturing practice to assure that such drug meets the requirement of the act as to safety and has the identity and strength, and meets the quality and purity characteristics, which it purports or is represented to possess.

Controlled substances will just get you fucked harder and faster.

 

[Black Cat Owner]

Got it. 105GB of Discord logs

Only skimmed very quickly through it and I'm already sure it contains lotsa gold.
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Anyone dumb enough to inject home made chemicals from the internet deserves any sickness they get from Iyar.

 

[burnlebridge]

Created a new account just to post lol. Anyways, these retards think that hair and a mysterious green particle (probably from the metal cap but that doesn't make it any better) is just fine. What could possibly go wrong?

The video:

It's not that clear but you can see a particle of some kind if you look close enough.

EDIT: Incase if you were wondering, his dumbass injected it anyways

 

[Layton Mysteries]

True. Pretty sure estradiol's still illegal to sell without a prescription, though, at least in CA. I looked it up last year during das Keffalkrieg but can't find links at the moment.

It is technically illegal to import a prescription drug without a prescription, but I can't find a single instance of it being prosecuted. However testosterone is a different story, thats actually a controlled substance, and is illegal to sell or possess without a prescription, and that is actually prosecuted.

 

[Plodis]

Yeah, but in this image, it indicates that the actual manufacturer is Beijing Yibai Biotechnology Co., Ltd., so I don't know if that registration allows them to distribute it. However, what stinks is that it apparently doesn't
have an ANVISA registration, like I said above. I don't know if it matters in other countries but yeah. I'm not that smart to get deep into the matters of law and such but it's all I gathered with a quick search.
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Lest we forget what the other side of that box said... Totally not recruiting kids.

 

[Shittus Maximus]

Are you guys trying to tell me that bathtub HRT from the internet is sketchy? I, for one, am shocked.

lol, It's like being surprised that the meth you got has been not made to labratory standards. fuck 'em.

 

[cybertoaster]

This is literally going to kill children. Children are going to kill themselves. Not because of some TERF calling them mean names on the internet. But from a massive infection or contamination from these unsafe, unsanitary products.

The entire current tranny culture is already killing children with irreversible unnecessary surgeries and interrupting puberty with HRT.

Jesus Christ. I’m always wondering when the one event will happen that will finally break people of this praise tranny phase. It’d be but maybe this and the Rowling drama can start to tip the pins. But honestly I doubt. Can’t even stir a fuss over them being pedophiles and raping people and grooming kids.

These things are small internet stuff, its not gonna spill over the mainstream.

And if it does it will get silenced & memoryholed as usual.

 

[macrodegenerate]

Getting tranch vibes from this thread.
What is it with troons bringing together knowledgable people?

You should take what I'm saying with a grain of salt. I'm not a microbiologist or a chemist. I'm just using stuff I learned in high school, and I was a B student at best. Plus some esoteric knowledge of pressure cookers.