Dr. Kathy Rumer, DO / "The Butcher of Ardmore" / Rumer Gender Surgery / Rumer Cosmetic Surgery / Delaware Valley Aesthetics, PLLC - Sex-reassignment surgeon notorious for botched surgeries, constantly suing and being sued

Real Burger outcome, tbh. Patient privacy laws are ridiculous in the States and prevent doctors from defending themselves accurately against insane patients. But this patient wasn't insane.

Joke's on Kathy cause bet this defendent is judgement proof anyway.
 
You read that right, us Kiwis pointing and laughing at a lolsuit was enough to get everyone's names sealed (of course, this came too late for Miller).
Tbh I don't mind that the victim of this quack butcher was able to retain his anonymity even though the justification was bullshit and the threat, if any, would have been from "fellow" troons who absolutely detest anyone complaining about quackery perpetrated against them.
Joke's on Kathy cause bet this defendent is judgement proof anyway.
And nobody believes this was anything other than a wealthy plaintiff beating an indigent defendant after wrecking his health with her butchery.
 
A Rumer victim's story is going around detrans Twitter. Detransitioner KC Miller shared that Rumer ghosted this person when he asked for a revision.

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Cross posting from the Lolcow and Lolcow LLP thread: Rumer's defamation suit against an anonymous poster (John Doe) has ended with a default judgment in Rumer's favor: Even though Rumer horror stories are a dime a dozen, the judge ruled that John Doe is entirely liable for the damage to Rumer's reputation and has ordered him to pay the $169,000 she's already paid to a reputation management firm to restore her good (lol) name plus $5,000 in punitive damages. For an extra dose of crazy this is notably less than the damages she requested: if I read the ruling right she wanted over $1 million to cover all future reputation management costs on top of what she'd already paid, plus another $1 million in punitive damages. I wonder how long until she realizes that one random guy on Blogspot wasn't her only problem and the defamation judgment did nothing to stop all the other sites calling her a quack butcher.....

Am I wrong for not understanding how this wasn't dismissed/thrown out of court? How did a judge favor her, when it's multiple people over the span of years saying she's awful? She could have easily said this thread was defamation.

Also, what "reputation management form", lol. Everybody knows she's terrible, what are they fixing, exactly?
 
Am I wrong for not understanding how this wasn't dismissed/thrown out of court? How did a judge favor her, when it's multiple people over the span of years saying she's awful? She could have easily said this thread was defamation.

Also, what "reputation management form", lol. Everybody knows she's terrible, what are they fixing, exactly?
Because the posts/articles of all those other people saying she's a quack did not exist as far as the judge was concerned: John Doe was served but no-showed throughout the entire trial so the articles/posts were never entered into the court record. Without those, all the judge knew had was Rumer's complaint which he was obligated to treat as true. If your next question was going to be "well why didn't the judge Google Rumer and dismiss the case based on those other people's statements" judges are not supposed to do that level of independent research, especially when the defendant had the chance to appear in court and defend himself but chose not to use it. Judges are supposed to be impartial, even when one of the parties is a widely known quack butcher.
 
Because the posts/articles of all those other people saying she's a quack did not exist as far as the judge was concerned: John Doe was served but no-showed throughout the entire trial so the articles/posts were never entered into the court record. Without those, all the judge knew had was Rumer's complaint which he was obligated to treat as true. If your next question was going to be "well why didn't the judge Google Rumer and dismiss the case based on those other people's statements" judges are not supposed to do that level of independent research, especially when the defendant had the chance to appear in court and defend himself but chose not to use it. Judges are supposed to be impartial, even when one of the parties is a widely known quack butcher.
Is she even going to get that money if the defendant is anonymous? What a silly court case, at least in my eyes. Like I said, she could have said this thread was defamation if she wanted to, if the judge considers a website as legally actionable. If the defendant is a no-show you're in the money, I guess.
 
Is she even going to get that money if the defendant is anonymous? What a silly court case, at least in my eyes.
Yes, she identified and served John Doe but all documents with his name were sealed because the Farms covered the lolsuit. This is not a joke, Rumer and the other defendant (Jamie Miller) agreed to seal all documents with either defendant's name because "[Miller] asserts that, as a result of this lawsuit, her personal information has already appeared on a notorious internet forum that directs harassment and threats to transgender women." Rumer did not oppose the motion and the judge granted it. The only reason the whole Rumer v. Doe lolsuit thread has any of the entertaining documents is that we downloaded them before the seal was requested or issued.

Edit: I have attached the default judgment as well; it notes that Rumer properly served Doe so she must have known who he was.

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Like I said, she could have said this thread was defamation if she wanted to, if the judge considers a website as legally actionable.
CDA230 holds that the Farms (both Null and Lolcow LLC) cannot be liable for libel due to posts made by other users:
"No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider."
This does not prevent Rumer from suing random users and subpoenaing Null for user information but that wouldn't get her anywhere - Null keeps as little information as possible and routinely purges the logs. It'd be almost as futile as trying to pin down an anon on 4chan.

If the defendant is a no-show you're in the money, I guess.
This is the only thing vaguely resembling a positive note: John Doe is destitute so even if Rumer sues for garnishment and gets the maximum amount allowed (my understanding is that garnishment can only be a certain percentage of the debtor's income to make sure s/he does not end up broke or homeless) she will take years if not the rest of her life to recover the full amount owed.
 

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"Do no harm."

I assume Rumer was sworn in with the Hippocratic Oath?

How many complaints of botched surgeries before she is struck off?

Honest question. I'm not au fait with US medical regulations.
 
"Do no harm."

I assume Rumer was sworn in with the Hippocratic Oath?

How many complaints of botched surgeries before she is struck off?

Honest question. I'm not au fait with US medical regulations.
It reminds me of Dr. Death in Texas, this coke addict neurosurgeon that paralyzed about 30 patients before going to jail. You can't really blame people for going to alternative forms of medicine, even if it is quackery a lot of the time, when shit like this happens and it takes over 30 horribly maimed victims for there to be even an ounce of justice.

Re-reading the wiki article and it's even more insane than I remembered.

 
It reminds me of Dr. Death in Texas, this coke addict neurosurgeon that paralyzed about 30 patients before going to jail. You can't really blame people for going to alternative forms of medicine, even if it is quackery a lot of the time, when shit like this happens and it takes over 30 horribly maimed victims for there to be even an ounce of justice.

Re-reading the wiki article and it's even more insane than I remembered.

That entire story makes me very MATI. Surgery is a horribly dangerous things and on one hand, these troons not only covet it, they demand we (the taxpayers) fund it. They are fixated on cosmetics and "depth," utter frippery and lunacy. On the other hand, you have these maimings of legitimately injured people who didn't choose any of this. Horrible!
 
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That entire story makes me very MATI. Surgery is a horribly dangerous things and these troons not only covet it, they demand we (the taxpayers) fund it. They are fixated on cosmetics and "depth," utter frippery and lunacy. Then you have these maiming of legitimately injured people who didn't choose any of this. Horrible!
Uhh it's Marxist to covet the for-profit American medical industry. Y'allidarity, things of that nature
 
It reminds me of Dr. Death in Texas, this coke addict neurosurgeon that paralyzed about 30 patients before going to jail. You can't really blame people for going to alternative forms of medicine, even if it is quackery a lot of the time, when shit like this happens and it takes over 30 horribly maimed victims for there to be even an ounce of justice.

Re-reading the wiki article and it's even more insane than I remembered.

There was also John Ronald Brown.

He did both troons and self-identified BIID sufferers. He was ultimately sentenced to prison for second degree murder after a BIID amputation went wrong. (I guess that assumes they can possibly go right?)
 
"Do no harm."

I assume Rumer was sworn in with the Hippocratic Oath?

How many complaints of botched surgeries before she is struck off?

Honest question. I'm not au fait with US medical regulations.
Doctors taking an oath is not the same as being "sworn in" in a court of law. It's simply an ethical/professional promise. The idea is that if everybody swears it, this helps create and uphold a culture and stigma against doing monstrous things. But it is not, in itself, in any way legally binding.
And alarmingly, most places have done away with the "do no harm" bit.
 
Reddit troons have been calling out Rumer's fake reviews:

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It's so much fun watching this cluster B snake of a community eat its tail. Trannies write fake/dishonest reviews of surgeons/results of their castration all the time to lure others into the same grisly fate. I think they're mad Rumor had terrible bedside manner because she doesn't suck their figurative cocks after the initial butchery to milk more money out of them. Every other ASPD surgeon that does this shit to people has the same horrific results, but they assure their patient afterwards the common complication they're having is UNCOMMON, they just need ONE revision which becomes endless revisions. It's satisfying to see someone out cry bullying trannies at their own tactics. Rumor is the hero the tans community deserves.
 
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