Herzog: Last note about this, while our furry friend Trace compiled these notes, he was largely because of a little site called Kiwi Farms, which has obsessively cataloged nearly everything these lolcows have posted for years. They're just taking what they have posted and their commentary of course, but this is all comes from -
Singal: With some slurs, I would imagine, some slurs, with the commentary
Herzog: - some slurs. But this all comes from stuff that they have publicly posted. So while the media outlets that have published these glowing profiles of the ranch have completely ignored its crackup as well as the allegations of both human and animal abuse coming from former members, the Kiwi Farmers are doing their jobs for them. Which is to say, if you want accurate information about this place, you will not find it at Vice, or NBC, or NPR, or PBS, or [???] whatever it's called, any of those "legitimate" outlets, but you will find it at kiwifarms dot net, which does, indeed, still exist.
Singal: I've noticed very few follow-up articles after the headlines of like "the end of Kiwi Farms" or how "Kiwi Farms" it's just this mass forgetting thing whenever the media gets a story wrong, or just moves on to the next thing. It's pathetic.