Dumb Shit on Wikipedia

[870EVO]

I'm finding the horseshoe is fast becoming a black hole with both extremist tardlings. Both groups are literally asking for the same protections as the other. I'm of the mind to lease out a closed prison, enlist the top fifty percent of each side, pack it with video cameras, and let's do Stanford properly. Lock them all up and have a "revolution" where the last man standing gets to leave. Fuck, this is almost Mean Guns but without cool dialog.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

My OP for this thread is embarrassingly retarded. I've wanted to make it better for a while. Any suggestions? I want it to reflect specific aspects of Wikitardation, perhaps with sections pointing to particularly appalling acts and, obviously, dumb shit.

A good idea would be to give a quick overview of some of the most notable retarded things Wikipedia has done and does. Like how the Article on KiwiFarms is absolute garbage that REFUSES to name Chris who is the entire reason the site exists and how it's talk section gave us the amazing quote "The consensus says it's true, and the purpose of Wikipedia is to maintain the consensus. It doesn't matter whether it's factually true or false."

The article on Gamergate is another great example, having about as much Wikipedo janny babysitting as the articles for Israel and Trump while being absolutely obsessed with the thing.

The well known hoaxes that ended up being spread there are also good points. Such as how the Scottish wikipedia was basically a meme, or that one chink woman that wrote fanfics about the history of Russia.

And make sure to throw the XKCD strip about Citogenesis on it as well. Explains why wikipedo retardation is so dangerous compared to, say, reddit jannies or furry sperging.

 

[Baraadmirer]

That troon NewImpartial got topic banned from troonery articles and told to stfu yesterday. Given that the edit history of the account consists of vomiting out edits in accordance with reddit's sex pest population, looks like they won't be doing much more on the site.

Further up another troon editor, The Tranarchist, has also been indefinitely topic banned, though appeal is possible after six months. ( will eventually be archived on Wikipedia, Archive )

I've only captured the closing statement because the rest of the thread is very long.

My OP for this thread is embarrassingly retarded. I've wanted to make it better for a while. Any suggestions? I want it to reflect specific aspects of Wikitardation, perhaps with sections pointing to particularly appalling acts and, obviously, dumb shit.

Links to the administrator's noticeboard or its incidents sub-board are great, as they're a never-ending source of drama.

 

[Barry McKockner]

Lol, Wikipedia considered kotaku a reliable source lmao.

 

[Sayer of the N-Word]

My OP for this thread is embarrassingly retarded. I've wanted to make it better for a while. Any suggestions? I want it to reflect specific aspects of Wikitardation, perhaps with sections pointing to particularly appalling acts and, obviously, dumb shit.

The most important thing you need to go over is not specific articles but how the site's governance has been captured by trannies and political activists in much the same way as other internet communities have been. Wikipedia is filled with cliques and agendaposters, and the higher up you are in the organization, and the closer you are to fraught political subjects, the more likely it is that you are yourself an agendaposter who coordinates your edits with other agendaposters. The site's policy of near-total openness can't stop this because it is easily subverted by off-site networking.

 

[Molesting the Decapitated]

Being an editor of Wikipedia for over a decade I can absolutely confirm this as fact. i cant tell you how many articles I edited for bands I like where I wrote something without a source, then some website (deemed "reliable" by the sites guidelines) wrote something exactly the same that I did on their site, then I went back, edited the page and used that source to back up my claim

 

[byuu]

Wikipedia actually keeps a list of known incidents:

Wikipedia:List of citogenesis incidents - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Sometimes it becomes real:

The expression "Dunning–Kruger effect" was created on Wikipedia in May 2006, in this edit. The article had been created in July 2005 as Dunning-Kruger Syndrome. Neither of these terms appeared at that time in scientific literature; the "syndrome" name was created to summarise the findings of one 1999 paper by David Dunning and Justin Kruger. The change to "effect" was not prompted by any sources, but by a concern that "syndrome" would falsely imply a medical condition. By the time the article name was criticised as original research in 2008, Google Scholar was showing a number of academic sources describing the Dunning–Kruger effect using explanations similar to the Wikipedia article. The article is usually in the top twenty most popular Wikipedia articles in the field of psychology, reaching number 1 at least once.

 

[JJLiautaud]

Wikipedia actually keeps a list of known incidents:

Wikipedia:List of citogenesis incidents - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Sometimes it becomes real:

I know at least one citogenisis thing not covered for over a decade it said that Bobby Flay was mentored by a legendary chef named Ishaan Gupta, Ishaan Gupta was a kid at my school.

 

[scathefire]

I know at least one citogenisis thing not covered for over a decade it said that Bobby Flay was mentored by a legendary chef named Ishaan Gupta, Ishaan Gupta was a kid at my school.

Yeah I think I've said this on this thread before but when I was in middle school there were two friends/classmates of mine who edited themselves into the cast list of some very, very non-notable movie, and it's somehow still fucking there like over 10 years later, despite numerous other people having edited the article since then. I don't understand how literally anybody who gives enough of a shit about the movie to edit its wikipedia article wouldn't look at it and immediately see the vandalism, but I guess wikipedia bureaucracy, stupidity or both has been keeping it as-is.

 

[AnOminous]

I think it might be best to have some general, broad categories of types of dumb shit as well as a few examples of each. For instance, politically captured articles full of dumb shit and lies, i.e. GamerGate/Kiwi Farms/etc., usually patrolled by naked propaganda. A lot of these involve portrayals of absolutely idiot lolcows by completely uncritically repeating outrageous lies told by the cows themselves that ended up in fake news, i.e. "reliable sources."

Then there are things like autistic talk page slapfights, which can be pretty funny, edit wars, ArbCom cases, and things like that. Ryulong's autism tantrums would fall into this category.

Then there are just plain stupid articles, either because "why is there an article" or because the actual contents are stupid.

The last example would be some of the hoaxes and frauds perpetrated, i.e. like that idiot autist who created thousands of "Scottish" wikipedia articles even though it was by an American who didn't even speak the language and just talked like Scrooge McDuck.

 

[teriyakiburns]

autistic talk page slapfights

The muhammed talk page is always good for a laugh. 34 archives of demands to remove the pictures, add a thousand honorifics to his name, or some variation of "respect the muslims". It never ends. Muz vs autist is a slapfight for the ages.

It's also full of outright lies ("Wikipedia is not censored for the benefit of any particular group") that show the hypocrisy of the place. It's a perfect example of its tendency to slip into retarded slapfights, without being the usual culture war bullshit.

 

[Baraadmirer]

The muhammed talk page is always good for a laugh. 34 archives of demands to remove the pictures, add a thousand honorifics to his name, or some variation of "respect the muslims". It never ends. Muz vs autist is a slapfight for the ages.

It's also full of outright lies ("Wikipedia is not censored for the benefit of any particular group") that show the hypocrisy of the place. It's a perfect example of its tendency to slip into retarded slapfights, without being the usual culture war bullshit.

Another page that's been the target of demands for renaming is Adam's Bridge, which gets the somewhat-frequent demand of changing the page title to Rama Setu to the point that the requests are virtually reverted on sight.

I found this while on the Wikiped today: an editor now identifies as transracial. Today he made the category "Transracial Wikipedians", so keep an eye out for more cows coming out to the pasture.

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As a follow-up to an old post from nearly a year ago, Nicholas Michael Halim (a former transracial editor) has vanished his account.

 

[Slime Tube]

The site's policy of near-total openness can't stop this because it is easily subverted by off-site networking.

The two banned troons are a case in point of this. Before we posted anything on our gossip website Redditors were openly already crying about both bans (archive). Clear evidence of them organising to corrupt the encyclopedia. It's also hilarious to see exceptional redditors who obviously haven't spent five minutes on the site engaging in moralistic posturing about having to adhere to its rules.

 

[Sayer of the N-Word]

The two banned troons are a case in point of this. Before we posted anything on our gossip website Redditors were openly already crying about both bans (archive). Clear evidence of them organising to corrupt the encyclopedia. It's also hilarious to see exceptional redditors who obviously haven't spent five minutes on the site engaging in moralistic posturing about having to adhere to its rules.

Putting up a flare like that in a sub with a third of a million members should be considered an attempt to preemptively canvass for a repeal of their topic bans.

Also, edit, holy shit is Tranarchist's talk page bad. Here is the admin DougWeller asking about how to find his Mastodon profile. There are numerous power editors giving this guy condolences (including a guy who is infamous for raping people, Liz Fong-Jones). Some feel free to call other editors "bigots" and "bastards", and do Discord networking.

 

[PipTheAlchemist]

Scotland and Wales aren't England but giving it an "offensive" tag is absurd

Celtic LARPers have very soft asses. They get butthurt easily

 

[870EVO]

 

[Contra Pozz]

Wikipedia actually keeps a list of known incidents:

Wikipedia:List of citogenesis incidents - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Sometimes it becomes real:

Looks like I got myself a new hobby

 

[General Emílio Médici]

As expected Wikipedos are on suicide watch now that their darling, novel sized, article on January 6th is being completly destroyed by the the primary source of actual footage coming out and show how much all of it is just propaganda and straight up lies. The talk page has over 20 archives after all, is a goldmine of salt and desperate cope and some pretty blatant attempts a ignoring anything not in line with their view. I quite like this recent exchange.

"Nooooooo Tucker is editing and misrepresenting the footage! You can't rely on his 2 minute clips! You need to watch OUR 2 minute clips chosen by our Reliable Sources!"

 

[JJLiautaud]

I think it might be best to have some general, broad categories of types of dumb shit as well as a few examples of each. For instance, politically captured articles full of dumb shit and lies, i.e. GamerGate/Kiwi Farms/etc., usually patrolled by naked propaganda. A lot of these involve portrayals of absolutely idiot lolcows by completely uncritically repeating outrageous lies told by the cows themselves that ended up in fake news, i.e. "reliable sources."

Then there are things like autistic talk page slapfights, which can be pretty funny, edit wars, ArbCom cases, and things like that. Ryulong's autism tantrums would fall into this category.

Then there are just plain stupid articles, either because "why is there an article" or because the actual contents are stupid.

The last example would be some of the hoaxes and frauds perpetrated, i.e. like that idiot autist who created thousands of "Scottish" wikipedia articles even though it was by an American who didn't even speak the language and just talked like Scrooge McDuck.

You have to cover wikitionary deleting an entire language arbitarily, even after the community voted that this admin's personal theory was retarded, i covered a little bit of a while back.

 

[lolcow yoghurt]

Wikipedia edit histories have real gems. Here's one edit war from the Methanol article from 2018. Methanol is classified as 1 for Health in its NFPA 704


Someone repeatedly changed the 1 for Health to a 3, these are their edit summaries: