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A TiF on r/ftm has made a rant post about phalloplasties. She's claiming all the bashing is due to people not seeing the final products.
Phalloplasty: what it actually looks like

I see a lot of hate and bashing of phalloplasty in a lot of places. A post about it was around just recently that got lots of upvotes (and I’m glad!), but I’d like to add some things, as I’m very much nearing my own surgery date:

I believe that most people who think phalloplasty is ugly or looks bad see stage 1 results only, or immediate post-op results. This was the case for me as well before I really researched it. I dubbed it “a worm penis”, until I realised that’s not all that there is to it.

There are multiple stages to phallo, with stage 2 being glansplasty. No, your dick doesn’t look like a hot dog, sausage, worm, etc. unless you want it to, as they create a glans. With a full phalloplasty, you get a penis with a scrotum and testicular implants, as well as urethral lenghtening. You can get an erectile device implanted as well.

Here you can see an example of immediate post-op and healed after stage 2 with glansplasty.

Medical tattooing is also a possibility. A medical tattoo artist can pigment the glans, whole penis, or add veins to it to make it look more realistic. This is an example of medical tattooing in the phallo subreddit. This is another example in the same sub.

It’s not for everyone as there’s potential loss of sensation, very expensive price tag, lots of recovery, but I hope this sheds some light on the fact that phalloplasty does not look like a weird hot dog penis - except for inbetween stages, as your body needs to heal, and it does not look like that forever. Personally, even if it looked like that and didn’t have a glans, the pros would outweigh the cons and I still would get the surgery.
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Let's look at some of these images from her link:
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I love that pic of the severed one. Let's you see how much tissue actually holds these things on.

This comment made me laugh
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u/justbron: I've been mystified by the discourse that's popped up suggesting phallo dicks don't look good. The pics I've seen have mostly always been indistinguishable from natal cis dicks, other than the occasional visible scarring. Honestly they often look more like an 'ideal' dick than a natal dick does bc they don't have some of the quirks that natal dicks do (ex. having a bend).
 
Okay so, scientists just did this.

Didn’t they try that with human female cells, and the babies always die? I’m posting it here because we all know troons would jump at the chance to have their own “eggs.” Can someone explain in depth, because the article leaves a lot to desired. Is this like really viable like they say it’ll be?
 
Okay so, scientists just did this.

Didn’t they try that with human female cells, and the babies always die? I’m posting it here because we all know troons would jump at the chance to have their own “eggs.” Can someone explain in depth, because the article leaves a lot to desired. Is this like really viable like they say it’ll be?
I'm no astrophysicist but this quote stuck out to me:

"Scientists have created the precursors of human eggs, but until now the cells have stopped developing before the point of meiosis, a critical step of cell division that is required in the development of mature eggs and sperm."

Meiosis is the process of cell division that creates gametes. So they literally haven't even been able to create either sperm or eggs.

Lastly this quote:
"“We still don’t understand enough of the unique biology of human gametogenesis to reproduce Hayashi’s provocative work in mice"

What could go wrong?
 
Can't quote BatteredPancakes, but this?
u/justbron: I've been mystified by the discourse that's popped up suggesting phallo dicks don't look good. The pics I've seen have mostly always been indistinguishable from natal cis dicks, other than the occasional visible scarring. Honestly they often look more like an 'ideal' dick than a natal dick does bc they don't have some of the quirks that natal dicks do (ex. having a bend).
No. We here have seen hundreds of phallo, and while there have been perhaps three that weren't shocking to look at, they did
not resemble or function like actual cocks. They just weren't shocking. That's not the same as 'indistinguishable', ladies. The big
pulpy self harm mess in your underwear is just that.
 
It’s this tissue that gets filled with blood when hard, and needless to say: A Phalloplasty “penis” doesn’t have that and is just, literally, a flesh roll.

That’s important because ED devices are designed for men, and designed to fit into where the corpus cavernosum is. (They’re usually also pointy because of this.)
Don't forget that the Swiss are working to change this inequality.

Nuigi has posted pics of her phallus with her erectile implant eroding out.
TW! This is what it looks like when one of the ED cylinders comes trough the skin / 4 days are between these pictures, surgery to get it fixed is today
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The amusing part is how much this looks like the side of your bra, when the underwire is just about to escape. If you don't catch the wire poking early enough, you'll have to use a donor scrap of fabric when you mend the bra, but these manly dudes already know that.

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Nuigi actually mentioned this implant.
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Nuigi:
We will see haha, but they will insert a grid to make it more stable on the tip.
I got two cylinders. My surgeons don’t work with the ZSI because the complication rate is too high here. The UL is placed in the middle of the dick and the ZSI is made for a placement more in the middle

From what I’ve read the zsi supposedly has an indentation on the tip for passage of urethra. Making UL possible as well.

Nuigi: Thanks! I only saw a few models without an indentation. But if this will happen again I will think about the ZSI. Over all I’m very happy with the Coloplast.
Interesting that the erectile device made specifically for them has higher complication rates. Apparently they are not seeking FDA approval either.
 
That's what I was about to ask. Or is it a "male identified chest" so it's the same as a boy being at the beach legally? I am horrified by the implications if that is the case.
If they allow this kind of logic you will 100% have cp of girls "identifying as boys" being posted out in the open. Completely non sexual boy boobs, nothing to see here.
 
Sorry for a little biology sperging, but if you go into the Jazz thread, there’s a good drawing of what the inside of an (actual) penis looks like.

The main space is taken by two pieces of spongy tissue called corpus cavernosum.

It’s this tissue that gets filled with blood when hard, and needless to say: A Phalloplasty “penis” doesn’t have that and is just, literally, a flesh roll.

That’s important because ED devices are designed for men, and designed to fit into where the corpus cavernosum is. (They’re usually also pointy because of this.)

Since FTMs are using an ED device designed for men in a fleshroll that doesn’t have the kind of cavities they’re designed to fit into, FTM getting ED devices always have a risk of the pointy ED device penetrating the skin. Like in this case.

TLDR: YWNBAM and they’re insane for signing up for these surgeries.
This is also why the frankensausages of FTMs are so fragile, as they do not have said tissue, which makes the penis elastic, but rather tough at the same time. This gives a real penis its durability even when flaccid as it keeps the male urethra open, unlike aidens who are getting constant urethral blockages for one reason or another.

Still, I do not know who troons think they are going to be using their new "equipment" with in terms of future partners, as 99.9% of people are not going to want to touch these results with a ten-foot-pole, provided they can even use their stinkditches or crotch burritos for actual sex without injury or disappointment.
 
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