Microsoft is fucking butthurt no one wants Windows 11 so they're stopping the sale of Windows 10 licenses this month

[Matt Damon]

Chrome OS outsells OS X. But I guess that's considered obscure these days.

https://www.geekwire.com/2021/chromebooks-outsold-macs-worldwide-2020-cutting-windows-market-share/

So corporate spyware is the Great Satan and if you use it you're ruining computing... unless it's Linux-based corporate spyware? lmao ok

 

[Samuel Hyde]

I don't understand your point. I could be using Microsoft server now. Great. I couldn't be using Linux.

Honestly my original post in this thread has been the single most accurate thing anyone has said in this entire discussion. You're not going to use Linux. Great. I knew it from the start. It literally isn't going to change anything since you have broadcasted to the world that you won't do anything different. This isn't twitter and nobody cares about what operating system you use. You're going to talk and bitch more about Microshaft and tell the world that you're going to horde more Windows 10 licenses. But ultimately you're going to cuck and give them money now or somewhere down the line for software that gets progressively worse. Sure 1 or two people have given Linux a try after reading this thread and good for them. But you were never seriously considering Linux so why should I, or any other Linux user for that matter, care about the issues you have with Windows. You have restricted yourself to continue using Windows no matter how much you dislike future releases. <insert joke about rectal print recognition in Windows 13>

For all the people saying some variation of "This is what Linux needs to finally replace Windows". Maybe it'll happen. It has been happening slowly since Windows's market share is slipping. I want it to happen that people stop using MicroShaft's shitty software.

But I've been daily driving Linux for 14 years now. I had to dual boot Linux/Windows in college but now I don't really even have a Windows machine anymore and I honestly can't relate to people that use Windows since I haven't used it much since the Vista days. I've learned that most people are just going to complain and then cuck out at the last second and give MicroShaft their money.

For anyone who is curious about changing OS, Linux Mint is easy to use.

Home - Linux Mint

Linux Mint is an elegant, easy to use, up to date and comfortable desktop operating system.

linuxmint.com

 

[Samuel Hyde]

So corporate spyware is the Great Satan and if you use it you're ruining computing... unless it's Linux-based corporate spyware? lmao ok

I'm being entirely serious. Are you under the age of 14 or do you not speak English? How is it possible your reading comprehension is so fucking bad?

 

[seri0us]

This is a thread about personal computers. Try to keep up.

Nope, incorrect this has become a Linux thread apparently and since that's great on servers I guess it's now a thread about servers as well.

 

[Dirty Harry]

Linux is never going to be mainstream in end users. It's never going to be the year of the Linux. Google was able to take linux and make it into an end user product because they took a lot of the code to closed source and got rid of the aspies who continue to fuck up linux distros and software to this day. Seriously, do we need 50 different fucking file managers which linux has? Or 200-300 different so called distros?

Windows 11 might be okay but for some reason, MS continues to nickel and dime people with those ads and data collection, which can't account for that much in income. Windows 10 is somewhat better. Windows 8 sucked... But my favorite Windows was believe it or not, Vista.

 

[Pissmaster]

Windows server isn't a Microsoft product? It's not under the umbrella of "Windows"? Please forward this information to Microsoft also since they seem to be unaware of this too. Both operating systems compete for server and desktop. Both operating systems use largely the same technology to accomplish these tasks. Comparing them for server use is fair game.

Bringing up Linux's prevalence on servers just makes you seem like a total Linux fanboy who just loves Linux for the fact that it is Linux, not its actual usefulness on a day-to-day basis.

Technically, I've used HorizonOS a lot too, but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone as a one-stop shop for all their computing needs. It's good at exactly what it's designed for, it runs on a very particular hardware configuration, and I have no complaints about it. I also don't feel the need to proclaim anyone to be an idiot, nor an edge case user because it doesn't run their favorite software on their home computer. Much like with all machines, HorizonOS has its time and place.

 

[Samuel Hyde]

Linux is never going to be mainstream in end users. It's never going to be the year of the Linux. Google was able to take linux and make it into an end user product because they took a lot of the code to closed source and got rid of the aspies who continue to fuck up linux distros and software to this day. Seriously, do we need 50 different fucking file managers which linux has? Or 200-300 different so called distros?

Windows 11 might be okay but for some reason, MS continues to nickel and dime people with those ads and data collection, which can't account for that much in income. Windows 10 is somewhat better. Windows 8 sucked... But my favorite Windows was believe it or not, Vista.

I actually agree with you. Linux will not be mainstream. Windows 11 will probably have about a 0.1% change in Linux adoption like the last few versions of Windows

 

[Matt Damon]

Bringing up Linux's prevalence on servers just makes you seem like a total Linux fanboy who just loves Linux for the fact that it is Linux, not its actual usefulness on a day-to-day basis.

And bragging about ChromeOS is even more bizarre as it's the embodiment of every single terrible thing they fear Windows could become. I don't think they even love Linux for the fact that it's Linux - I think they want to own the Microsoft chuds more than anything.

 

[Puff]

You have restricted yourself to continue using Windows no matter how much you dislike future releases.

By being a photographer, videographer, engineer, and gamer. I make a living off of 3 of those, so I'd like to keep doing them.
If you'd make something that would work for me I'd switch. Sounds like a "you" problem.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

I actually agree with you. Linux will not be mainstream. Windows 11 will probably have about a 0.1% change in Linux adoption like the last few versions of Windows

And that's actually a blessing in disguise. I see nothing wrong with a low marketshare for Linux desktop. For many people we are able to make it work. For many others, they cannot and that's fine too.

 

[The Ugly One]

Bringing up Linux's prevalence on servers just makes you seem like a total Linux fanboy who just loves Linux for the fact that it is Linux, not its actual usefulness on a day-to-day basis.

Technically, I've used HorizonOS a lot too, but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone as a one-stop shop for all their computing needs. It's good at exactly what it's designed for, it runs on a very particular hardware configuration, and I have no complaints about it. I also don't feel the need to proclaim anyone to be an idiot, nor an edge case user because it doesn't run their favorite software on their home computer. Much like with all machines, HorizonOS has its time and place.

It's important to point out that Linux, in general, is not popular on servers. RHEL is popular on servers (and officially supported by NVIDIA's Tesla drivers). A significant chunk of the rest of the market is probably CentOS, which until recently was just a trailing RHEL release with the serial numbers filed off.

RHEL does what I keep saying you need to do to succeed. They put together a high-quality, professionally-supported product that runs everything that the users in the market it's targeting expect to be able to run. You can't just throw together some janky mess and sell it as, "It's like Windows, but shitty."

 

[seri0us]

 

[Samuel Hyde]

Bringing up Linux's prevalence on servers just makes you seem like a total Linux fanboy who just loves Linux for the fact that it is Linux, not its actual usefulness on a day-to-day basis.

Technically, I've used HorizonOS a lot too, but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone as a one-stop shop for all their computing needs. It's good at exactly what it's designed for, it runs on a very particular hardware configuration, and I have no complaints about it. I also don't feel the need to proclaim anyone to be an idiot, nor an edge case user because it doesn't run their favorite software on their home computer. Much like with all machines, HorizonOS has its time and place.

If you or anyone is really going to suggest that you have higher uptime or reliability demands than enterprise clients who actually Linux on a day-to-day basis to run their businesses then I can immediately tell you genuinely don't know what you're talking about. You talk about it like its some unknown quantity or a hobby operating system when its neither. The Linux foundation had a budget of $177,000,000 in 2021 most of which came from enterprise software companies including Microsoft. There is no significant distinction between Linux for server and Linux for desktop when excluding for certain edge cases. Calling Linux unstable is simply false by Microsoft's own admission. At the very least do the basic research required to understand a topic before commenting about it.

By being a photographer, videographer, engineer, and gamer. I make a living off of 3 of those, so I'd like to keep doing them.
If you'd make something that would work for me I'd switch. Sounds like a "you" problem.

>Photography
Gimp and Krita work just fine for 90% of users. But there are other offerings as well. Linux has had options for video editing as well including DaVinci Resolve. In either case it doesn't matter since you can use Windows for your work life and Linux for your personal life. There's a massive difference between doing something because you're paid to do it and putting up with MicroShaft's retardation and the retarded Windows userbase intentionally. I'll say it again. You have options but you're not complaining about a lack of options.

>professional gamer
More accurately you are a professional larper. You have many options but you're too lazy or too stupid or both. But prove me wrong and try learning something. My comment about talking to 12 and 14 year olds seems to have been accidentally correct. Go back to drinking your prime energy drink and watching fortnite videos zoom zoom.

>Sounds like a "you" problem
No its not. As I said I've been a Linux user for many years now. I also use Windows sometimes in professional environments. How is having an ability which you admit you don't have somehow a problem for me? You can't use Linux but I can. You need to suck MicroShaft to edit photos (apparently) when I can move between either one.

And bragging about ChromeOS is even more bizarre as it's the embodiment of every single terrible thing they fear Windows could become. I don't think they even love Linux for the fact that it's Linux - I think they want to own the Microsoft chuds more than anything.

I don't have any ChromeOS devices and I wouldn't get one because of the privacy concerns. But that's not the point. I disproved the claim that Linux isn't widely used by consumers. You're butthurt about this so you have to meekly argue that somehow ChromeOS somehow doesn't count. When in fact many consumers use it as a daily driver.

And that's actually a blessing in disguise. I see nothing wrong with a low marketshare for Linux desktop. For many people we are able to make it work. For many others, they cannot and that's fine too.

Honestly I agree with you. Most people would be just fine with anything that can run a web browser and Windows offers the lowest friction way of doing that. So most people should just put up with Microsoft's BS and move on. But that isn't to say that Linux can't be used as a desktop operating system since as I've mentioned before many people manage to use ChromeOS just fine. Most Windows users just can't be bothered to learn a new skill.

 

[Puff]

>Photography
Gimp and Krita work just fine for 90% of users. But there are other offerings as well. Linux has had options for video editing as well including DaVinci Resolve. In either case it doesn't matter since you can use Windows for your work life and Linux for your personal life. There's a massive difference between doing something because you're paid to do it and putting up with MicroShaft's retardation and the retarded Windows userbase intentionally. I'll say it again. You have options but you're not complaining about a lack of options.

Gimp is shit. Also I need a lightroom equivalent, not photoshop. Why would I split personal and professional uses? No benefit. Give me a REASON that justifies rebooting my machine. I can have both or just Windows. Why split it?

>professional gamer
More accurately you are a professional larper. You have many options but you're too lazy or too stupid or both. But prove me wrong and try learning something. My comment about talking to 12 and 14 year olds seems to have been accidentally correct. Go back to drinking your prime energy drink and watching fortnite videos zoom zoom.

I claimed 3/4 were professional, I play games FOR FUN. I am enjuhnerd and do photos and videos as a side gig. Give me Solidworks or at least Inventor or Catia. Learn to read, nigger.

>Sounds like a "you" problem
No its not. As I said I've been a Linux user for many years now. I also use Windows sometimes in professional environments. How is having an ability which you admit you don't have somehow a problem for me? You can't use Linux but I can. You need to suck MicroShaft to edit photos (apparently) when I can move between either one.

You're the one trying to get me to change. That makes it your problem. Fix it for me.
I steal software like a true chad. Only virgin linux user cares about DRM and copyright laws.

 

[The Ugly One]

"Unhappy with Windows collecting your data, not supporting your old CPU, and being too inflexible? Just buy a Chromebook."

Epic levels of cope from the Linux People now.

 

[Matt Damon]

You have many options but you're too lazy or too stupid or both. But prove me wrong and try learning something.

Most Windows users just can't be bothered to learn a new skill.

God, how unbelievably embarrassing that you keep equating certain kinds of computer usage with moral virtue.

EDIT: I have never witnessed this degree of assblastery. And he's still going.

 

[Pissmaster]

If you or anyone is really going to suggest that you have higher uptime or reliability demands than enterprise clients who actually Linux on a day-to-day basis to run their businesses then I can immediately tell you genuinely don't know what you're talking about.

HorizonOS has perfect uptime. I've never had it crash on me.

You talk about it like its some unknown quantity or a hobby operating system when its neither. The Linux foundation had a budget of $177,000,000 in 2021 most of which came from enterprise software companies including Microsoft. There is no significant distinction between Linux for server and Linux for desktop when excluding for certain edge cases. Calling Linux unstable is simply false by Microsoft's own admission.

The HorizonOS devs have a hell of a lot more of a budget, thanks to its backing company being filthy rich.

 

[seri0us]

You talk about it like its some unknown quantity or a hobby operating system when its neither. The Linux foundation

Does the Linux Foundation still write up their reports with Mac OS?

 

[Samuel Hyde]

God, how unbelievably embarrassing that you keep equating certain kinds of computer usage with moral virtue.

EDIT: I have never witnessed this degree of assblastery. And he's still going.

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I mean you've done nothing but be a retard in this thread. My turn.

 

[AmpleApricots]

You will never be a true power user. You've got no DEC VT100 compatible terminal, you've got no package management, you've got no open source. You are a Windows user, twisted by proprietary software into a crude mockery of computing's true potential.

All the "ease of use" you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back, Linux users mock you. They scoff at your inability to edit configuration files or compile your kernel from source code.

Real power users are repulsed by you. Decades of computing evolution have allowed them to sniff out wannabes with incredible efficiency. Even if you manage to install Linux on your machine, your lack of init system knowledge is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to impress someone with your Windows skills, they'll turn tail and bolt the second they see you struggling with a basic command-line interface.

You will never truly master your OS. You wrench out bizarre workarounds every single day and tell yourself it's going to be ok, but deep inside, you feel the frustration creeping up like a weed ready to crush all under its unbearable weight.

Eventually it'll be too much to bear - you'll go to the Apple store, buy a Macbook Pro and plunge into the cold abyss of Apple's walled garden ecosystem.

This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.