How Biden's New Washing Machine Regulations Could Ruin Laundry Day - They're waging a war on all appliances, not just gas stoves

Manufacturers say government climate change initiative would make your washing cycles longer, clothes dirtier​

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WASHINGTON, DC - JANUARY 25: U.S. President Joe Biden makes an announcement on additional military support for Ukraine in the Roosevelt Room of the White House on January 25, 2023 in Washington, DC. President Biden said the U.S. will send 31 M-1 Abrams tanks to Ukraine to aid in their fight against Russia after Germany approved the delivery of Leopard 2 tanks to Kyiv. (Photo by Alex Wong/Getty Images)

Collin Anderson
March 13, 2023

When Cincinnati firefighter Ed Wallace bought a high efficiency Whirlpool washing machine, he came to regret the decision almost immediately. The machine used less water—not enough to clean Wallace's work clothes—and his colleagues at the firehouse quickly took notice. "I walked past my guys and they say, 'Dude, you stink!'" Wallace said. "I smelled myself, and yeah, that's me stinking."

Now, President Joe Biden is pushing regulations that could force Wallace's stinky situation upon millions of Americans.

Biden's Energy Department last month proposed new efficiency standards for washing machines that would require new appliances to use considerably less water, all in an effort to "confront the global climate crisis." Those mandates would force manufacturers to reduce cleaning performance to ensure their machines comply, leading industry giants such as Whirlpool said in public comments on the rule. They'll also make the appliances more expensive and laundry day a headache—each cycle will take longer, the detergent will cost more, and in the end, the clothes will be less clean, the manufacturers say.

The proposed washing machine rule marks the latest example of the administration turning to consumer regulations to advance its climate change goals. Last month, the Energy Department published an analysis of its proposed cooking appliance efficiency regulations, which it found would effectively ban half of all gas stoves on the U.S. market from being sold. The department has also proposed new efficiency standards for refrigerators, which could come into effect in 2027. "Collectively these energy efficiency actions … support President Biden's ambitious clean energy agenda to combat the climate crisis," the Energy Department said in February.

While the Energy Department—which did not return a request for comment—acknowledged in its proposal that "maintaining acceptable cleaning performance can be more difficult as energy and water levels are reduced," it expressed confidence that Whirlpool and other appliance manufacturers can comply with its regulations without sacrificing stain removal and other performance standards. For the Heritage Foundation's Travis Fisher, however, manufacturer concerns over the proposal are justified.

"When you're squeezing all you can out of the efficiency in terms of electricity use and water … you by definition either make the appliance worse or slower," said Fisher, who serves as a senior research fellow at the foundation's Center for Energy, Climate, and Environment. "Why are we so focused on the energy output, as opposed to if it's helping me wash my clothes? That standard has kind of gone off the rails."

Beyond the performance standard debate, the Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers argued that the Energy Department's washing machine regulations "would have a disproportionate, negative impact on low-income households" by eliminating cheaper appliances from the market. The Energy Department estimates that manufacturers will incur nearly $700 million in conversion costs to transition to the new machines.

The department countered concerns over higher appliance prices by arguing in its proposal that consumers will ultimately save money under the regulations through lower energy and water bills. Still, those estimated savings won't apply to all consumers, roughly a quarter of whom "would experience a net cost" thanks to the efficiency rule, according to the Energy Department's proposal.

The Energy Department is required to conduct efficiency standard reviews every six years under the Energy Policy and Conservation Act, which Congress enacted in 1975, two years after an Arab oil embargo inflated gas prices in the United States. The Clinton administration subsequently established the country's first washing machine energy and water efficiency standards in 2001, just before former president George W. Bush took office. Those standards led to "ruined laundry, ongoing maintenance, and service calls," prompting Whirlpool to release a cleaning product "specifically designed to address moldy washing machines," according to George Washington University's Sofie Miller.

The debacle has not stopped the Biden administration from moving forward with more stringent appliance energy efficiency standards, which have not been updated for washing machines since 2012. The tightening of those standards "could put performance at risk" but is unlikely to provide "meaningful energy savings," the Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers says, because most appliances covered under the Energy Policy and Conservation Act "now operate at peak efficiency."

"They keep tightening the standards, and I'm not sure their reasoning makes sense anymore," Fisher told the Washington Free Beacon.

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This honestly has been the worst administration in American history
It especially stings when it's back-to-back with the best administration in the passed 40 years.
The only things I like are cameras but overall they are probably used to collect info in you to sell you shit or some other BS. I wonder if there’s a based jail broken version of smart homes. Highly doubt it though.
The only way to be certain is to build it up yourself.
 
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"It won't effect people! Saving the environment will improve your quality of life!"
"Connect your appliances to the Internet of Things to get the best energy saver performance!"
>Turns down air conditioning and heating in people's homes without the ability to override it.
"IT'S FOR THE ENVIRONMENT!"
>New restrictions on gas stoves!
"THEY'RE NECESSARY TO PREVENT YOU FROM INDOOR POLLUTION WHICH MIGHT BE AS MUCH AS WALKING BY A FAT WOMAN WEARING PERFUME!!!!"
>New restrictions on fridges
"YOU DON'T NEED TO KEEP THAT MUCH FOOD THAT COLD! JUST BUY NEW FOOD, PEASANT!"
"BLACK PEOPLE MOST EFFECTIVE BY THE FACT THAT FRIDGES ARE WHITE TO SIGNIFY YT SUPREMACY!"
"We won't do more..."
>New restrictions on washing machines
"JUST BE DIRTY, PEASANT!"
>New restrictions on driers
"JUST WEAR DAMP CLOTHES, PEASANTS!"
>Tries to make home PC's illegal
"JUST USE YOUR PHONE, PEASANT!"
>New regulations on light bulbs
"JUST GO TO SLEEP WHEN IT GETS DARK, PEASANT!"
>New regulations on vehicles
"JUST DRIVE AN EV, PEASANT"
>Doesn't improve electrical grid
>EV's are sky high expensive
<--You Are Here
"Try Nu-Clothes! You just throw them away when they get dirty!"
"Eat recycled food. It's good for the environment and OK for you!"
"Try Nu-Water. Just like water, only NEW!"
"It's breakfast, in a cup!"


Tell me, aren't you tired of this administration and the nanny states coming into your house and telling you what you can and cannot have?

If they're that worried about water, then how about they make it illegal to have grass lawns in SoCal, you know, where IT'S A FUCKING DESERT! and stop allowing pistachio and almond farmers to suck up all the water.
Oh... wait...
 
"It won't effect people! Saving the environment will improve your quality of life!"
"Connect your appliances to the Internet of Things to get the best energy saver performance!"
>Turns down air conditioning and heating in people's homes without the ability to override it.
"IT'S FOR THE ENVIRONMENT!"
>New restrictions on gas stoves!
"THEY'RE NECESSARY TO PREVENT YOU FROM INDOOR POLLUTION WHICH MIGHT BE AS MUCH AS WALKING BY A FAT WOMAN WEARING PERFUME!!!!"
>New restrictions on fridges
"YOU DON'T NEED TO KEEP THAT MUCH FOOD THAT COLD! JUST BUY NEW FOOD, PEASANT!"
"BLACK PEOPLE MOST EFFECTIVE BY THE FACT THAT FRIDGES ARE WHITE TO SIGNIFY YT SUPREMACY!"
"We won't do more..."
>New restrictions on washing machines
"JUST BE DIRTY, PEASANT!"
>New restrictions on driers
"JUST WEAR DAMP CLOTHES, PEASANTS!"
>Tries to make home PC's illegal
"JUST USE YOUR PHONE, PEASANT!"
>New regulations on light bulbs
"JUST GO TO SLEEP WHEN IT GETS DARK, PEASANT!"
>New regulations on vehicles
"JUST DRIVE AN EV, PEASANT"
>Doesn't improve electrical grid
>EV's are sky high expensive
<--You Are Here
"Try Nu-Clothes! You just throw them away when they get dirty!"
"Eat recycled food. It's good for the environment and OK for you!"
"Try Nu-Water. Just like water, only NEW!"
"It's breakfast, in a cup!"


Tell me, aren't you tired of this administration and the nanny states coming into your house and telling you what you can and cannot have?

If they're that worried about water, then how about they make it illegal to have grass lawns in SoCal, you know, where IT'S A FUCKING DESERT! and stop allowing pistachio and almond farmers to suck up all the water.
Oh... wait...
What form of authoritarian would we call the Democrats at this point? Their naked border policy and economic meddling suggest Communist, but they are the "Democracy is our strength" party of of worker's unions, which suggests Fascism, but they have a critical-race social-Darwinist bent & want Universal Basic Income, which suggests Nazism.
 
>make new machines use less water to save water
>new machines don't clean clothes properly
>people wash clothes twice or wash in twice as many loads to compensate using twice as much water

Yup sure sounds like a smart idea to me.
This is the same thing that makes me fucking mad whenever i think about epa shower heads.

Yes, less water flow per minute but you have to rinse twice or thrice as long, both negating any savings and filling you with rage, which is what I think the actual intent is.

Some faggot government bureaucrats are dilating their stinkdicthes with heroin-fueled fervor to the thought of the average citizen's frustration levels increasing by a few percent every time they take a shower, flush the toilet, wash their clothes or try to fry an egg.

Joke's on them, I'm about to start Duke Nukem 3D for DOS and Windows 95, and so are many other people.
 
Already sperged about it another thread; but was in Home Depot just looking around, a washer/dryer combo, one of the talking points on the card was something like "Firmware updates through Wi-Fi." Just in case big brother thinks you're washing your clothes a bit too much or whatever.


This too. Firefighter Ed Wallace is having a Peggy Hill needs to flush more than once moment.
I recently bought a new washing machine, a heavy duty Samsung HE one, along with the dryer to match. Both expensive as fuck (like $4kAUD for the set) and whilst it works without the internet, it constantly lets me know if its not connected, just as my new fridge does.

They all work fine, clean everything perfectly, but if its due for a drum clean (a 3 hr cycle), you're not washing shit until that drum clean is done.
The dryer is much the same - they work great, but if you're not nannying it, they'll message you constantly or brick themselves until you give it attention.

The thing is, if you're doing heavy duty loads, you cant skimp and buy a cheap one, but at the same time, it certainly doesn't feel like it's yours to do what you please with. Kind of a catch-22.
 
Like everyone else, I immediately thought of low-flow toilets. Most places I've lived in had newish toilets that worked okay but had the occasional clogs, etc. that I assumed were normal. Then, I stayed with someone with low flows and WHAT A NIGHTMARE. Tiniest bit of toilet paper required 2 flushes and they clogged constantly. Now I live in an older house with a toilet from the 80s. What a revelation. Never clogs and it only needs a bit of lime-a-way to stay on top of hard water buildup, otherwise, no issues with stains.

This is the same thing that makes me fucking mad whenever i think about epa shower heads.

Yes, less water flow per minute but you have to rinse twice or thrice as long, both negating any savings and filling you with rage, which is what I think the actual intent is.
Remove the flow restrictor if you can. You're right, it cut showers down to about 1/3 the time. I used a tiny screwdriver and a hammer to chip away at it until the rest popped out.
 
Tell me, aren't you tired of this administration and the nanny states coming into your house and telling you what you can and cannot have?

If they're that worried about water, then how about they make it illegal to have grass lawns in SoCal, you know, where IT'S A FUCKING DESERT! and stop allowing pistachio and almond farmers to suck up all the water.
Oh... wait...
Not about logic, it's about humiliation.

Remove the flow restrictor if you can. You're right, it cut showers down to about 1/3 the time. I used a tiny screwdriver and a hammer to chip away at it until the rest popped out.
this can help in a lot of cases but some of the newer shit is designed to increase pressure to give the 90iq consoomer retard the false impression that "the water pressure is le epic xdddd". If you remove the restrictor it just squirts a little harder and splashes everywhere but only gives like 15% better water flow.

To do this right, you need to do your own wide-diameter hose, custom diy or old vintage shower head, and hope that the fuckface bathroom fixture company isn't cucking you with small diameter passages in your mixing valve and faucet body.

I have rigged up an outdoor shower using the garden faucet for the summer and it's incredible how much better the experience is. If push comes to shove and my annoyance level increases sufficiently I will ghetto-fabricate a similar setup indoors and do the temperature mixing myself using ugly industrial hardware.

Can relate to toilet situation. Had to replace an original 80s american standard throne (cracked porcelain) and there is NO AMOUNT OF MONEY you can spend to get a similar quality flush.

Honestly EPA bureacrats needed to be bullied more as children, and in a functioning society a lot of people would find their home addresses and send them angry letters.
 
This is the kind of shit nigger bammy pulled when he was office. Remember the CFL lightbulbs? The ones filled with mercury and if you broke one you had to have a special team of people come in and clean them up. You couldn't just throw them in the trash either. They needed special disposal. This reminds of that. The government said they couldn't sell regular lightbulbs anymore. The government should not be regulating products off the market or telling manufacturers they have to make their products a certain way. What the government should be doing is telling they have to make them in the US. That's about it.

I did hear that those water efficient washing machines don't work. I just had to replace my showerhead and it put out less water. I don't really care for it.
 
You will own nothing and be happy.

They're acting like you're paying a couple grand to merely rent the product from them.

They should have nuked that "they're only RENTING it!" shit when they started it with software.
Where's my open-source Libre washing machine app?

Why does my washing machine need an app?
 
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"Excuse me sir, have you ever thought about having a smart home?"
"Sorry, I live in a halfway house. Say, you ever had hemorrhoids the size of crayons hanging out your ass and have to drive an 18 wheeler from Tuscon to Bangor, Maine? Those sonofabitches at SWIFT drove me up the fucking wall talking about making timetables. So I finally had enough and raped the bitch of a dispatcher who kept nagging me. God damn, what was I talking about again? Oh yeah, driving 18 wheelers..."
 
Those things drove me insane due to the weird sounds. If you have hypersensitive hearing, they are basically an enhanced interrogation device. Thanks, Obama.
I didn't like them because they made less light and when you turned them on, they were dim for like the first few minutes. I think most people use LED bulbs now. I have some installed. The ones that make as much light as an incandescent bulb are bigger though. The smaller ones are like the CFL's and don't make as much light. They are more the size of a regular lightbulb. I only use the bigger ones. The 100-watt equivalent ones. Though I have a few of the smaller ones. If you can get enough of them, they can light a room up.
 
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I didn't like them because they made less light and when you turned them on, they were dim for like the first few minutes. I think most people use LED bulbs now. I have some installed. The ones that make as much light as an incandescent bulb are bigger though. The smaller ones are like the CFL's and don't make as much light. They are more the size of a regular lightbulb. I only use the bigger ones. The 100-watt equivalent ones. Though I have a few of the smaller ones. If you can get enough of them, they can light a room up.
Unlike LEDs and incandescents, CFLS also pump out a fucking shitton of UV radiation so they'll leave you looking 60 when you're 40 and give you skin cancer. If you use them and they can't be replaced you should seriously be wearing sunscreen during exposure.

It's really no wonder you don't see them often anymore.
 
Our house came with a high efficiency washer and dryer. The dryer died quickly thank goodness and it took me ages to find a simple one that just worked, wasn’t ‘self cleaning’ (never ever buy a dryer with a condenser you can’t pull out and scrub). I was offered Wi-Fi smart etc and I was asking the guy ‘look I just want one with an on off switch, a time dial and a couple of heat settings.’ Nope.
The washer is high efficiency and it WRECKS clothes becasue the ONLY way you can clean with less water is with physical force. It is the equivalent of bashing them on a rock by a river.
So, I looked it up and the way to get it to behave normally is to see if it has a button for shorter cycle and for extra water. You press both and it takes the eco setting off. Or use the express cycle.
My mother’s tumble dryer is twenty years old. It has an on off button, a dial for time and two heat settings. New appliances are a scam. If you’ve got an old faithful one ne we scrap it.
(This goes for things like sewing machines too- a metal bodied one from the fifties will see better than a modern one outside the crazy price ranges.) everything is poorly built and built to fail nowadays
 
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