Microsoft is fucking butthurt no one wants Windows 11 so they're stopping the sale of Windows 10 licenses this month

[Matt Damon]

Whatever floats your boat faggot. If you want to be Microsoft's bitch, be my guest.

It never gets old watching Linux spergs seethe over how complete strangers on the Internet use their computers.

Imagine having that much ego invested in an operating system. How embarrassing.

 

[Geddy Lee's Fee and See]

It never gets old watching Linux spergs seethe over how complete strangers on the Internet use their computers.

Imagine having that much ego invested in an operating system. How embarrassing.

Why the fuck would I care what OS you use? It's not on my computer and hence not my problem. I just don't want idiots like you spreading FUD to people that actually want to use an objectively superior operating system assuming they want some help getting into it. It's sort of like your gripenwith anime where tou think just because you were dumb enough to watch anime to chase after pussy means everyone does and hence it's objectively bad. Grow up.

 

[TheBigZee]

But my main desktop has 16gb of Ram, a much faster i5 processor, and won't let me "upgrade" to Windows 11 unless I do do the hack trick. And I'm not sure if the hack trick will keep accepting updates.

A lot of people have qualifying desktops - they just have required features turned off in the bios.

 

[Matt Damon]

Why the fuck would I care what OS you use? It's not on my computer ans hence not my problem. I just don't want idiots like you spreading FUD to peaole that actually want to use an objectively superior operating system. It's sort of like your gripenwith anime where tou think just because you were dumb enough to watch anime to chase after pussy means everyone does and hence it's objectively bad. Grow up.

The words of a man who is very clearly not mad at all.

 

[Geddy Lee's Fee and See]

The words of a man who is very clearly not mad at all.

Yes. I'm not mad. Now stop projecting like you tend to do with things you don't like, e.g. anime. This is the behavior of a 5 year old (I know you are, but what am I). It's really gay and annoying.

 

[Matt Damon]

Yes. I'm not mad. Now stop projecting like you tend to do with things you don't like, e.g. anime. This is the behavior of a 5 year old (I know you are, but what am I). It's really gay and annoying.

I have broken this dude's mind by not liking Linux or anime and I didn't even realize I was doing it.

 

[cybertoaster]

Well yeah, that's part of their business model. They're shitty about not supporting older Apple devices. There are workarounds that exist but if you're Apple-ing then you're probably buying a new device every 4-5 years at least.

So its like this now? just like with iphones? I recall macfags bragging that they didn't have to change their machines as often as PCs.

They do a lot of telemetry, I don't actively keep up with it. It's kind of a copout to go "b-but apple!!!" when no one even knows quite what's in Windows telemetry except Microsoft.

I thought you could completely disable win telemetry with scripts and 3rd party apps.

I was curious about high end Chromebooks because I'd never fucked with one and I used a little bonus specifically for new tech at home we get from work every year to buy $500 Chromebook. This is a high end device as chromebooks go with a decent quality aluminum body, 8 gigs of ram and 128 gigs of onboard storage. You know what? It's actually a very viable option for home use depending on what you're doing.

Now look, it forces you to use an online account which I hate, so I can't outright advocate for it. However, Chrome OS as it exists now lets you install most Android apps, has a built in Linux environment that lets you install essentially anything you want and Steam functionality is currently in beta and works very well with 80% of the games I've thrown at it. On top of that, the OS itself is very secure because of how it sandboxes apps/The Linux environment.

What I'm saying here is the days where Chrome OS was essentially just a browser are long gone. It's not going to replace programs that only exist on Windows that you need for accounting or graphic design or whatever, but you know, if you just want to browse/watch YouTube, play some games on Steam and edit documents and stuff like that, it's rapidly becoming a very viable alternative.

I'd consider it at least before getting a Macbook which also requires you to have an online account to use these days. Telemetry is going to be part of the package with any modern major commercial OS, unfortunately.

There's chromeOS flex now which you can install on any PC, tho of course it lacks features, main one being android apps.

Frankly I don't see it as an alternative, not just because google its the worse at privacy but because you're basically running web apps most of the time, and back when android x86 was a thing it ran like shit so I doubt those apps will run well on anything but ARM chromebooks, but then say goodbye to linux apps and steam games. All the "gaming" chromebooks are meh laptops and the gaming is in the cloud, which google doesnt even supports anymore since it killed stadia, lame...

So its mostly web apps, as for android apps that OS has way less power-user apps than iOS or ipads do, and I'm saying that as an android user, it is the weakest point of that platform.

Also a decent chromebook its almost the same price than an M2 macbook air and lets be honest apple chips wipe the floor with the competition now, I don't have the numbers but I wouldnt be surprised if macbooks have better price/performance than PC laptops now.

I would switch back to Mac in five seconds if the games worked.

Those ARM chips would be great for gaming, if there were any games for them.

Honestly I dont get why apple is still allergic to gaming, that fuckhead jobs has been dead for over a decade now. With the kind of money this corporation has they could easily buy activision, EA and ubisoft together and basically leave the rest of the market with almost no games. Just repackage a mac mini as a console and BAM! apple is a gaming powerhouse.

Or just not even go that far and just buy a bunch of meh companies with valuable IPs like Sega, konami, capcom and the like. Point is if microsoft could buy activision-blizzard why cant apple do that?

But yeah, Apple is far worse than Windows about supporting software updates. Your old machine will work for a very long time, but nah, forget updates. "Buy a new computer or eat shit" is their business model.

That's gonna suck even more with the new ARM macs since you can't boot windows instead. And yes I know there's a linux distro in the works but who knows how good (or rather bad) is the app support going to be.

If I had to build/setup another computer today, it'd honestly be a coinflip as to whether I'd go with Windows 10 or give some Linux distro with Wine a chance to show its worth (I do hope Wine has greatly improved since I last used it on OS X). I don't like Microsoft's current trends and should they not reverse course then this is likely where I'm getting off.

I heard zorinOS its basically a distro with wine built-in and ready to go, but some people say its not a "just works" thing.

And I'm not sure if the hack trick will keep accepting updates.

Which hacks? win11 needs actual hardware features.

 

[Matt Damon]

Which hacks? win11 needs actual hardware features.

It "needs" them in the sense that it checks for them before it will allow you to upgrade. If you hack around those checks, the OS will still run.

 

[Geddy Lee's Fee and See]

Let me ignore that retard. He can go jerk himself off in his cuck corner.

That's assuming they don't double down, though.

I stayed on 7 as long as I possibly could, only finally moving to 10 very recently once Stable Diffusion stopped playing nice with 7. That said, it's less "moved to 10" and more "selecting the other installed operating system" because I feel no urge to stop dualbooting even after beating Windows 10 upside the head until it stopped doing all of the shit that annoys me (telemetry, ads, bloatware, automatic updates, extensive malware scans of EVERYTHING that accesses the hard drive that didn't come from their app store, etc...).

If I had to build/setup another computer today, it'd honestly be a coinflip as to whether I'd go with Windows 10 or give some Linux distro with Wine a chance to show its worth (I do hope Wine has greatly improved since I last used it on OS X). I don't like Microsoft's current trends and should they not reverse course then this is likely where I'm getting off.

Yeah. Microsoft had a definite good streak in the late '90s to late 2000s (minus ME) and Windows 10 is alright. I use it for my laptop for software that won't play nice with Linux. That being said, I won't be updating to Windows 11. Microsoft and just the tech sector in general is becoming too much like Apple for my liking: walled garden software environment with very little room for user customizstion. I know most people don't use it or are tech literate enough to do it properly, but I think users should have the right to change their systems to work the way they need it too. Also, the telemetry shit is a bit too much. It was annoying with 10 but it's just excessive with 11. I'd just advise staying with 10 as long as it's updated and maybe switching to Ubuntu when it reaches EOL. Even if you don't do the latter, it's probably best to just keep on running 10 for as long as possible.

 

[Matt Damon]

I use it for my laptop for software that won't play nice with Linux.

Just use Wine and VMs, bro.

 

[cybertoaster]

It "needs" them in the sense that it checks for them before it will allow you to upgrade. If you hack around those checks, the OS will still run.

Go on, which hacks?

 

[Pissmaster]

WINE and virtual machines exist and they ate more than capable of running whatever you need. If WINE doesn't support it then VirtualBox does. There are very simple solutions to a lot of these problems.

Literally just use Ubuntu.

 

[TheBigZee]

WINE and virtual machines exist and they ate more than capable of running whatever you need. If WINE doesn't support it then VirtualBox does. There are very simple solutions to a lot of these problems.

Your solution is to run windows with extra steps.

 

[Geddy Lee's Fee and See]

Just use Wine and VMs, bro.

It's a work laptop. No shit I'm not going to install Linux on something that's not my property.

Your solution is to run windows with extra steps.

Yes. I value my privacy so I will put in more work to ensure it. You don't therefore you allow pajeets to scan through your computer. It's a differwnce of values: I like not veing shilled goyslop and you do if it means it's easier. It's that simple.

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Are you faggots done? Nice meme from 2011.

 

[Pissmaster]

It's a work laptop. No shit I'm not going to reinstall Linux on something that's not my property.


Are you faggots done?

 

[Matt Damon]

Your solution is to run windows with extra steps.

But you'll know you're running an "objectively superior" operating system. A sense of superiority is vitally important to the Linux user experience.

 

[Geddy Lee's Fee and See]

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See my advice about virtual machines above.

But you'll know you're running an "objectively superior" operating system. A sense of superiority is vitally important to the Linux user experience.

There's no sense of superiority in reading a fucking manual and just doing vey basic research. You are literally just lazy. That's it.

 

[Matt Damon]

There's no sense of superiority in reading a fucking manual and just doing vey basic research. You are literally just lazy. That's it.

There it is again: moral virtue derived via operating system choice.

I'm telling you guys - Linux users are all like this, deep down. This is their core ideological motivation.

 

[TheBigZee]

Yes. I value my privacy so I will put in more work to ensure it. You don't therefore you allow pajeets to scan through your computer. It's a differwnce of values: I like not veing shilled goyslop and you do if it means it's easier. It's that simple.

IDK, AFAIK you can turn off most of the tracking in windows 11 - including using a local account after install. Seems like a lot less of a hassle than doing all of your paid work inside of a VM.

 

[Pissmaster]

See my advice about virtual machines above.

Adobe Creative Suite doesn't work in virtual machines.