Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

Slovakia followed Poland in agreeing to deliver planes to Ukraine, said "it is on the right side of history".
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In reality what actually happened. Stalin stopped trusting the Soviet intelligence, because the Soviet intelligence reported every single possible development, every goddamn fucking week, without actually doing proper analysis, filtering and double checking the data.

So Stalin ended up getting reports like that German wouldn't attack at all! Including that it's all misinformation from the English. To German are preparing to attack, but will only do it after they forced a peace treaty with the British. Or that the troop concentration along the border are a deception maneuver in preparation for the landing in British isles Or that Ze Germany are preparing for the attack in April, May, and every month after, to even next year, etc.
Yes, there are a lot of reasons why but again, he lulled himself into the belief it wasn't going to happen when and how it did. Also, while the Red Army had a lot of capable officers, purges and other events helped create a disorganized command, a certain instability that quickly resolved when the invasion did happen, but lead to Stalin disregarding what was reported at the beginning.

AFU air defense: shoot at the missile, Bogdan!



Maybe call the babushka with the pickle jars?

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As with a most authoritarian governments like the Russian, higher positions are populated not with the best, but with the bootlickers, cronies, yes-men and vassals.
drunk Bootlicker are still better than troons, woman, nigger or spicks...

there are four branches of the US government, no one should take anything you say about politics seriously, ever, kek
The Mic, the Kikelandlobby, the bankers and the DNC Cartel.

While WW2 comparisons are tired and overplayed, isn't this the exact same mistake Germany did in WW2, where they refused to see the USSR as a actual threat/foe until well after the war had turned against them?
Germany underestimated the landlease and overestimated the Uboats to keep the landlease from coming. there was also an issue with being alone against everyone. romania was just not strong enough to count as a real major power and all the other minor axis powers were useles.
 
Good Day for Swine control. All across the line of contact if not advances, at least destruction of enemy units continues. Wagner have again thrown back another AFU brigade as the iron grip around Bahkmut continues. But i bring some videos.

Another Ukrainian unit was caught on the march and destroyed.


Trench Clearing by Russian Naval infantry


Ukrainian Unit being hit by a rocket attack attempts to shoot down the incoming weapons with their service rifles



Prisoners captured somewhere on the front, most likely by Wagner


And lastly SPARTA battalion continues to maul the enemy to their front with near constant drone attacks.


Edit, Rocket video was ninjad by feline Supremacist,
 
Slovakia followed Poland in agreeing to deliver planes to Ukraine, said "it is on the right side of history".
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I'd like to remind everyone that Germans invented Jet fighters, managed to use them to absolutely rape the allied fighters, but combination of lack of infrantry and lack of sustainable jet fighter production still lost them the war. Super weapons are great, simple weapons are a must, and Ukraine seems to not have learnt this rule.
 
The Mic, the Kikelandlobby, the bankers and the DNC Cartel.
That's Congress, the legislative branch.

Ukrainian Unit being hit by a rocket attack attempts to shoot down the incoming weapons with their service rifles
When they shout missile in Russian-ракета-it sounds a lot like Rekieta, and I literally loled at the thought of him somewhere in the middle of this clusterfuck.
 
I'd like to remind everyone that Germans invented Jet fighters, managed to use them to absolutely rape the allied fighters, but combination of lack of infrantry and lack of sustainable jet fighter production still lost them the war. Super weapons are great, simple weapons are a must, and Ukraine seems to not have learnt this rule.
A handful of outdated, barely operational MiG-29s are hardly any super weapons. Even if they were the latest and greatest four whole fighter jets are nothing.
This move, once again, serves only as a way to virtue signal, get rid of old equipment, get back at Russia for the drone being pissed on and to appease Ukraine, hoping they shut the fuck about them F-16s for at least 10 minutes.
 
Yes, there are a lot of reasons why but again, he lulled himself into the belief it wasn't going to happen when and how it did. Also, while the Red Army had a lot of capable officers, purges and other events helped create a disorganized command, a certain instability that quickly resolved when the invasion did happen, but lead to Stalin disregarding what was reported at the beginning.

But that's the thing he did not know how or when as the Soviet Intelligences as i said kept bringing him contradictory data.

He knew Germans where going to attack at some point and was preparing for it. See Molotov line. (Army reforms , etc,etc)

And like I said Stalin actually allowed preparations for the defense against possible/potential German invasion in May anyway just in case. Things just went slower in fear of giving Germans a image of a planned invasion from the Soviet side.

And yes I agree with you. You can partially blame the purges for Soviet Intelligence lack of interpreting/analyzing the data properly that the Soviet spies where sending. Hence Stalin kept getting raw data and or contradicting data.


Though the purges aren't entirely to blame either. Any Analytic department of the intelligence service demand a lot of properly educated people. And here's the problem, existing pool of educated manpower in the Soviet Union in the 1920 up to the end of great Patriotic war was limited and in competition for it between industries, military, security services and government itself.

And I don't probably have to tell you why. But for sake of the others,

The Soviet education system really only started in mid 20's and truly got going in the 1930's. So effect of widespread education would really only be felt in SU in the early 1940's. Since the majority of the born in 1925-1927 would have finished at least the 7 or even 9 years schools by then and ready for service be it civilian or military.

Germany underestimated the landlease and overestimated the Uboats to keep the landlease from coming. there was also an issue with being alone against everyone. romania was just not strong enough to count as a real major power and all the other minor axis powers were useles.

Land lease started to come in bulk really only in late 1943 by that point it was obvious that Germany would fucked. As Stalingrad happened and the tide turned.
 
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Though the purges aren't entirely to blame either. Any Analytic department of the intelligence service demand a lot of properly educated people. And here's the problem, existing pool of educated manpower in the Soviet Union in the 1920 up to the end of great Patriotic war was limited and in competition for it between industries, military, security services and government itself.
Absolutely; the October Revolution didn't just happen and then the Bolsheviks went all "lol cool". There was the Civil War, Makhno's Insurgent Army, the War with Poland, various other conflicts, the literacy campaign, industrialization and collectivization as well as a restructuring of educational, social and cultural values. It was monumental, and mistakes were made, but the transformation was astounding. The Great Patriotic War was, and still is, the foundational event in modern Russia so Stalin gets a lot of blame. both fair and unfair.

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Absolutely; the October Revolution didn't just happen and then the Bolsheviks went all "lol cool". There was the Civil War, Makhno's Insurgent Army, the War with Poland, various other conflicts, the literacy campaign, industrialization and collectivization as well as a restructuring of educational, social and cultural values. It was monumental, and mistakes were made, but the transformation was astounding. The Great Patriotic War was, and still is, the foundational event in modern Russia so Stalin gets a lot of blame. both fair and unfair.

You can blame cold war and variety of tales pulled out of the ass for sake of propaganda. That fat sack of lying self promoting shit khrushchev can get the blame also.

Overall, Stalin was a psychopath, a functioning psychopath. Yeah, he's leadership was bloody but no need to attribute more fucking numbers then their really were. And there was a reason to his perceived madness for a lot of things.

Anyway, the man had a task.

We are fifty or a hundred years behind the advanced countries. We must make good this distance in ten years. Either we do it, or we shall be crushed.

and thank fucking god he did.

Also thank fucking god that super commie kike Trotsky never got the position.
 
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two decade anniversary of the American invasion of Iraq and the Guardian, yes the Guardian, publishes this opinion piece



“The idea that over 100,000 forces would invade another country – since world war II, nothing like that has happened.”
https://archive.is/o/wgZtd/https://...3/mar/14/iraq-war-9-11-george-bush-post-truth
The president spoke these words on 22 February, within a month of the 20th anniversary of the US military’s opening strike on Baghdad. The White House did not attempt to correct Biden’s statement. Reporters do not appear to have asked about it. The country’s leading newspapers, the New York Times and Washington Post, ran stories that quoted Biden’s line. Neither of them questioned its veracity or noted its hypocrisy.

Did the Iraq war even happen?

How come if Putler is having arrest warrants issued against him by the ICC Bush, Cheney, Blair and the rest of the blood soaked neocons haven't? This is a good question but would have you branded as an apologist for genocide in the western yellow press, especially in a newspaper like the Guardian, well at least until now.


It fell to Donald Trump to harness public outrage over not only the war but also the refusal of elites to hold themselves accountable and make policy changes commensurate with the scale of the disaster.
Yes folks this was published in the fucking Guardian. No you're not dreaming.


Ukrainians are now paying part of the price for western misdeeds. Russia’s invasion was an act of blatant aggression. Moscow violated the UN charter and seeks to annex territory as part of an explicitly imperial project (in this respect unlike America’s war in Iraq). Few people outside Russia have genuine enthusiasm for Putin’s effort. Yet, much of the world sees the conflict as a proxy war between Russia and the west rather than a fight for sovereignty and freedom.

This is the United States biggest problem and why western sanctions have been so ineffective. America has constructed a system of imperial vassal states beholden to it. However outside of these countries everyone else just laughs at their hypocrisy. Illegal invasion? Breaking international norms? Committing war crimes? Murdering civillans? You don't say


It's a sign of things not going to plan when you see a breaking in the ranks.
 
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