Microsoft is fucking butthurt no one wants Windows 11 so they're stopping the sale of Windows 10 licenses this month

Linux is the operating system which is an end in itself.
To be fair, Linux is a lot more suitable for technical stuff, without the bloat and telemetry of Windows.

But no matter how much it tries, it will never be as user friendly as Windows.

You also don't have to deal with Microsoft calling all the shots, which is becoming more and more of a pain in the ass (office suite is legitimately shit now, ngl)
 
Better yet, you can run Linux inside a VM in Windows 11 natively, now that WSL is a standard Windows component. This allows you to use all those cool Linux applications that aren't on Windows, like
Genius! This way you can enjoy a hamstrung sandboxed linux environment but have it run under windows with all its great features like forced updates, advertisements and telemetry along with any further "upgrades" coming in the future. How exciting! Truly gives you the best of both worlds.
 
Genius! This way you can enjoy a hamstrung sandboxed linux environment but have it run under windows with all its great features like forced updates, advertisements and telemetry along with any further "upgrades" coming in the future. How exciting! Truly gives you the best of both worlds.
It's really telling that the Linux people in this thread are so routinely incapable of detecting sarcasm.
 
It's really telling that the Linux people in this thread are so routinely incapable of detecting sarcasm.
You mean the part about cool linux applications that aren't on windows? I noticed the sarcasm and concluded it's either a joke or such a retarded strawman that it isn't worth responding to. Linux users don't even claim that linux has *better* compatibility with anything than windows. Some of the autists in this thread like to pretend they do, because such a claim would be easy to tear down, but no they really don't.
 
To be fair, Linux is a lot more suitable for technical stuff, without the bloat and telemetry of Windows.

But no matter how much it tries, it will never be as user friendly as Windows.
I honestly don't disagree with this. I don't think you need a dirth of knowledge to use it nowadays compared to when they released actual books that had commands for Linux and the like, but there is something of a learning curve when it comes to using Linux. It is not as obtuse or extreme as people make it seem, but it is present.
You also don't have to deal with Microsoft calling all the shots, which is becoming more and more of a pain in the ass (office suite is legitimately shit now, ngl)
Trust me, if I could stay on Windows 7 or even 8/8.1 forever and not have to deal with security updates eventually stopping, I would in a heartbeat. But the telemetry bullshit is getting too fucking spooky for me. I kinda value my freedom unlike people that complain about globohomo bullshit, yet prostrate before it when it comes to their convenience.

Genius! This way you can enjoy a hamstrung sandboxed linux environment but have it run under windows with all its great features like forced updates, advertisements and telemetry along with any further "upgrades" coming in the future. How exciting! Truly gives you the best of both worlds.
B-b-but Linux is so difficult to use and I can't use a popular program that literally run in WINE if not just a basic virtual machine.

The one thing I learned in my time using Linux is that if it's even a moderately popular application, it either has an analogue on Linux or it run in WINE. The only exceptions to that rule so far are ancient 16-bit Windows applications which require actual CPU emulation to do shit. There's a whole suite of autists and hobbists that are able to do that shit and I respect the ever loving fuck out of them.
 
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Cool. Now come up with an actual answer for the rest of the points in my posts. Or are you just going to pretend it's fucking 2002 and Linix is just starting to get off the ground, despite Valve, a good deal of application distributors and most scientific research institutions having Linux support in the current year of 2023.
 
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!
 
To be fair, Linux is a lot more suitable for technical stuff, without the bloat and telemetry of Windows.

But no matter how much it tries, it will never be as user friendly as Windows.

You also don't have to deal with Microsoft calling all the shots, which is becoming more and more of a pain in the ass (office suite is legitimately shit now, ngl)
I finally switched from Windows 7 to Windows 10 since new GPU drivers stopped being compatible so I could play the 3 games I can't run on Linux. I've been using Linux Mint with Cinnamon as my main OS, and it is significaintly more user friendly than the clusterfuck of Windows 10. It's on par with Windows 7 for me, which is almost perfect.
 
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Literally the pot calling the kettle black. How many of your posts in this thread have been about you projecting your eternal hatred of Linux and Linux users?
WinChads: "Man, Windows is going downhill."
LinuxCucks: "Lol, just install Linux."
WinChads: "Linux doesn't have the creative software we need, though"
LinuxCucks: "Here are some alternatives"
WinChads: "Those don't do what we need them to do"
LinuxCucks:

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Happy to see people are finally warming up to GNU + Linux in this thread.

So its like this now? just like with iphones? I recall macfags bragging that they didn't have to change their machines as often as PCs.
I think you can get away with it but Apple gimps the experience slowly but surely until they cut support entirely, similar to iphones. 5 years is "old" for a Mac now.
I'm not sure how often Windows expects people to update nowadays, it seems like a lot of people have nearly 10 year old PCs lying around but maybe use a more modern laptop or Surface anecdotally. I think people tend to get a new Windows computer when it "slows down" for whatever reason, often due to the user, but would like to see data.
I thought you could completely disable win telemetry with scripts and 3rd party apps.
You can but that doesn't tell anyone what is in the telemetry. I looked it up since posting that to see if anything has changed, Microsoft did allow at least some of the data collected to optionally be stored locally in 2018 and it was just detailed system data and what programs are used, though that's probably the baked-in telemetry basics, not the full package. Their other products come with telemetry as well, most of it probably benign but again "probably."
Unless you're technical and on top of things, something is gonna slip through.

Not telemetry per se, but it has been controversial that Microsoft can pull files off of your device for analysis. Great for security but I'm sure there are plenty of other benefits.
 
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