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I'm hoping and wishing the movie flops and then DreamWorks will learn their mistakes from shit like this. They've always learnt their mistakes a lot
Mr. Peabody & Sherman didn't deserve to flop, and we're never going to get another movie like that for a long time. What was the mistake they made there that they've learned from?
 
Mr. Peabody & Sherman didn't deserve to flop, and we're never going to get another movie like that for a long time. What was the mistake they made there that they've learned from?
I liked the movie myself, but think about it, Dudley Do-Right starring Bredan Fraser, the 2000 Rocky & Bullwinkle movie and the DreamWorks Mr. Peabody & Sherman movie have failed because the Rocky & Bullwinkle IP was already a product of its time (in this case, the early-60s) that didn't really needed to be reboot for the newer generation, especially later on we already have Monty Python, Airplane, Simpsons, Beavis & Butthead, South Park, Family Guy, etc. It was doomed to stay in the boomer generation.
 
I liked the movie myself, but think about it, Dudley Do-Right starring Bredan Fraser, the 2000 Rocky & Bullwinkle movie and the DreamWorks Mr. Peabody & Sherman movie have failed because the Rocky & Bullwinkle IP was already a product of its time (in this case, the early-60s) that didn't really needed to be reboot for the newer generation, especially later on we already have Monty Python, Airplane, Simpsons, Beavis & Butthead, South Park, Family Guy, etc. It was doomed to stay in the boomer generation.
Making a movie off an old property that has become forgotten is always risky. Even in 2000 Rocky and Bullwinkle weren't as icons as they use to be. It was probably a rare time in which a parent took their kids to see a childrens movie rather than vice versa. While the Looneys Tunes Might always have some reliance in them others won't. Can a movie based off Hong Kong Phooey get anybody in movie seats?
 
Making a movie off an old property that has become forgotten is always risky. Even in 2000 Rocky and Bullwinkle weren't as icons as they use to be. It was probably a rare time in which a parent took their kids to see a childrens movie rather than vice versa. While the Looneys Tunes Might always have some reliance in them others won't. Can a movie based off Hong Kong Phooey get anybody in movie seats?
At least having live-action Alvin and the Chipmunks and Smurfs movies worked, surprisingly (despite the respective quality of these movies), because it kept up with what's trendy back in the late-2000s/early-2010s. Stuff like Underdog doesn't work because it was never as relevant as it was back in the day. I mean, at least Tom & Jerry, Scooby Doo and Looney Tunes still manage to be relevant for the course of time.
 
Can a movie based off Hong Kong Phooey get anybody in movie seats?
............. Maybe one person... and totally not talking about myself......

I remember actually liking the Dudley Do-Right and Rocky and Bullwinkle movies, though Dudley's was a "so bad its good" kind of movie. I can't remember if the sae is true of Rocky and Bullwinkle. Future generations deserve their own take on Boris and Natasha, at least.
 
Funny thing is, that almost happened.
...... Okay, thing is I actually was thinking "wow, that would've been good" (and been one of the few times where it makes absolute sense that the cartoon dog sounds like a black person) up until it did the "accidentally hits himself in the crotch" joke and had him drink out of a toilet.

Gotta be honest.... the thing I hate most about WA since the 2000s (really since the 1990s) is how they lean into gross-out. Like, Daffy Duck should never say the word "poop," should fundamentally be unable to understand the concept. Or in this case... just because he's a dog doesn't mean he does all standard dog behaviors. (Honestly this kinda inherently ruins any movie about a dog IMO).
 
I stumbled on to something while browsing the "Nickelodeon" trending tag that is..........something.

John Fountain, a contributor on MLaaTR back in the day (he storyboarded and did other stuff I dunno), made an unofficial script that resolves the Jenny/Brad/Sheldon triangle in the original show and never got resolved. If anybody wants to spend some time to read it be my guest and report back.
>Senior year of high school, Brad and Jenny have their first kiss and end up together… at first
>After a year, they realize that they’re not very compatible outside of crime fighting, and Brad breaks up with her
>Jenny’s mom tells her about all her past failed relationships to try to cheer her up, but it doesn’t work
>Sheldon, who had already accepted that Jenny won’t like him back, and had gone through relationship drama of his own, consoles her
>They start dating, but after another year, Sheldon realizes he’s not in love with who Jenny is, but rather what she is, and he breaks up with her, giving her an “it’s not you, it’s me”
>Jenny flies into space to try to find herself
>She returns a few months later (coincidentally on her 20th birthday, making her no longer a teenage robot), still sad
>Her mom says that most people don’t end up with the people they knew from high school, and life is more complicated than anything she could have programmed into Jenny
>Jenny agrees and cheers up a little, accepting that she still has a lot to learn
>A few years later at a high school reunion, Jenny, Brad, and Sheldon all see each other again
>After a few moments of awkward tension, they hug, ending the series
I didn’t watch much MLAATR as a kid (I was still in the “it’s about a girl therefore it’s girly” phase), but this seems like a good ending from what little I remember.
 
Label be with autism if you wish, but the 20th birthday thing doesn't even make sense. I remember an episode where it's revealed she's only a couple years old, but was built as a teenager so no amount of birthdays should make a difference. Given most of the other XJs are also teens, I think Nora doesn't want any adult robotic children.
 
Can a movie based off Hong Kong Phooey get anybody in movie seats?
Possibly in the UK? I know it was big here.
The only problem is that it's getting on a bit and you'd have to have dangerously boomer parents for them to have nostalgia for it.

I didn’t watch much MLAATR as a kid (I was still in the “it’s about a girl therefore it’s girly” phase), but this seems like a good ending from what little I remember.
I didn't watch it as a kid because it was TEENAGE Robot and I wasn't a teen.
Considering all the porn, I may have been correct in that assumption :0
 
I know i can reply with clicking the text, but answering about @Two Dollars MLAATR summary:
Damn, that sounds your typical teenage romance drama, but at least ends pretty succesful.
I was a huge fan of MLAATR when i was a kid. The ending we got in the final season was... bleh.
 
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Anyways, I don't get why anime is so popular these days!

The character designs look like some studio exec said "Make it look more like Illumination and Pixar" but they couldn't just do a straight-up copy so they had to tweak it into some uncanny valley between those two looks.


"Kraken" looks so completely devoid of originality in terms of art style, animation or story that it may as well have been algorithmically generated by AI.

Idk why but the love interest kind of looks like a love child between this dude and larry from veggietales, with a few extra chromosomes.
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Maybe I'm just racist idk but jesus the humans are VERY ugly, is this the movie they send naughty animators to work on as a punishment?
I was thinking more of Sideshow Bob from the Simpsons.
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And the same could be said about George of the Jungle if we didn't count the 2007 reboot.
Actually, that movie with Brendan Fraser did well, as it made well under $175 mil worldwide at the box office against its $55 mil budget. Oh, and it's not actually from the R&B universe, despite being made by the same creator, so you're not providing a good example.
 
Actually, that movie with Brendan Fraser did well, as it made well under $175 mil worldwide at the box office against its $55 mil budget. Oh, and it's not actually from the R&B universe, despite being made by the same creator, so you're not providing a good example.
Yeah and then there was the direct to video sequel who's not bad but could have been better.
 
@skykiii Intriguing take dude but keep that sperging maybe on unpopular opinions on western animation thread.
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Anyways, I don't get why anime is so popular these days!

The character designs look like some studio exec said "Make it look more like Illumination and Pixar" but they couldn't just do a straight-up copy so they had to tweak it into some uncanny valley between those two looks.


"Kraken" looks so completely devoid of originality in terms of art style, animation or story that it may as well have been algorithmically generated by AI.
this looks like Calarts mixed with illumination or the worst Weinstein brothers film at this point, I can’t believe anyone thinks this art style is appealing in any way? Are bulbous ugly noses and circular features with pointy arms and dangerhair Color’s really a style kids love these days? Who’s in charge of this focus on art direction? It’s getting more stagnant by the day! It looks kind of like this character from some god awful show called the doodlebops
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Call me insane, but I actually liked this spin-off. If anything, the Rugrats episode where it transitioned them into actual teenagers after hiding from Angelica in a closet was a pretty cool thing to me when I was a kid. It was like I was watching a time travel isekai before I ever found out what an isekai was.

Granted, I was a literal kid back then when this happened, so I would have been easily impressed by anything as long as it kept my attention.
It was far from terrible it’s just a pretty middle of the road childrens sitcom with the Rugrats aged up as pre teens and teens. Most of the characters act like how you’d expect them to aged up especially with Angelica being a thotty e girl was just the perfect choice and the plots aren’t bad. It’s just pretty middle of the road and just a bit unnecessary, it’s still better than the CGI reboot though.
 
Intriguing take dude but keep that sperging maybe on unpopular opinions on western animation thread.
I'm guessing this is in response to my long thing about Codename Kids Next Door.

I'm guessing nobody saw the follow-up where I essentially backpedaled a bit on my harsh criticism of the show. I actually tried just now to edit said walkback into the original sperg post but surprise surprise... the "edit post" function has disappeared.

Sigh.

Well, might as well repeat it here:

So originally I had a snide remark saying "Ah well. Nobody was asking for spergposts to be put behind a mark back when I was gushing about Thundercats, just sayin'...."

But like... I decided "fuck that, I'm not gonna be a petty little chimp."

That's nowhere near being a double-standard like my snide chimp-side suggests. My Thundercats post was entirely complementary to the source material, whereas my Kids Next Door post was all about how bad the show was. Obviously positive views are gonna make people feel good. And clearly people here grew up with KND and nobody likes hearing that something from their childhood was evil and terrible and wrong... and it was admittedly kinda jew of me to let my feelings override that and just shit on it.

Full disclosure, this morning I looked up KND episodes on Youtube to see if maybe I'm being too harsh on it. Eh... much like MLP:FIM, Kids Next Door started out fine enough and I even said earlier that some early episodes were more my style, but the show just went off the rails almost as soon as a second season was greenlit. "Worst cartoon ever made" though? That might be going too far. The characters are unlikable except for Number Two and Number Three, but at least they're not aggressively grating like the cast of 2017 Ducktales.

Of course I'll always be biased by my own circumstances, and I do think there are artistic flaws with the show.... but I will say back in the day it was pretty much the only Cartoon Network original I could stand to watch--I really didn't like most CN originals then or now--so that it held my attention at all deserves some merit.
 
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