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[Grumpy Pickle Rick]

This reality sucks ass.
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Meh, this doesn’t me bother too much because it doesn’t change the fact that Velma is a shit show or that Mindy is a loser.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I'm not where else to put this so I'll put it here for posterity. Some madman on /co/ leaked a bunch of stuff hot stuff about a Fairly Oddparents reboot in the works. The Leak includes a pitch bible, a fully drafted script for episode 1, and some sort of test clip of animation for the new art style.

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All of it seems legit since the jannies were quick to delete the thread and remove any download links. Viacom are a heavily litigious corporation so I don't doubt they would have the 4chan mods act on their behest.

If this shit doesn't wake people up to the nigger propaganda, then nothing will. Jesus Christ they're just mocking us at this point.

EDIT: LOL I quoted the wrong post, but still. Also the animation is okay by itself, but it shouldn't be for the Butch Hartman style at all. Like yeah, Hartman's style isn't your typical beanmouth style, so it's better than everything out right now, but it needs more work.

Though I'll give them this that it's a better 3D model than those shitty movies.

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

Excuse me. I got stuck on the wrong side of the forum shutdown.

The panda is supposed to be a metaphor for her period (hence, the title, Turning Red). They later sell pictures of the "panda" for cash. You do the math.

I am rathe relieved that I am no the only one who thinks this. Then there is how Tyler more or less extorted the panda to be the star of his party. Taking the metaphor to its logical conclusion, Tyler jus trafficked a stripper or a hooker. Moreover, since the panda is a metaphor of reaching puberty, that means that she is prostituting her just-pubescent body. The johns may be children, too, bu that i still strong pædo vibes.
I side wit her mother, even though she can go too far egarding her daughter.

I can’t get past the clash of art style with Turning Red. The expressions are way too cartoony and over-the top compared to what the rest of the show looks like.

I remember people defending that, saying that cartoons hould not be afraid in going over-the-top and that girl teenagers are a lot more chaotic that people think.

They wanted her to say twerking but oh right set in 2002 when that sorta thing didn't exist (among 13 year olds at least. Look I know it's a dead horse argument at this point but turning red wanted so badly to be set in current year to appeal to zoomers on tiktok. You can see the current year in that movies skin just itching to break out and go full 2022 cringe.

That may be cause I lived through 2002 myself (though not Canada), but I... missed how that film really wants to be in 2022 (aside from the twerking and the 'my panda my choice' line).

Let's try this thread.

Is it worth it, or even safe, to give money to Watch Cartoon Online now that they've got their hand out? Do any other sites host such an archive where I can get my extralegal manchild fix?

I stick with kimcartoon.li and 9anime.to.
Please use uBlock origin in kimcartoon.li.

 

[TVB]

LOL I quoted the wrong post, but still. Also the animation is okay by itself, but it shouldn't be for the Butch Hartman style at all. Like yeah, Hartman's style isn't your typical beanmouth style, so it's better than everything out right now, but it needs more work.

Though I'll give them this that it's a better 3D model than those shitty movies.

It's true. I'll agree that at least the models and texturing is better in CG form than what they were used in the TV movies.

If Hartman's art style is to apply, I'd say Bunsen's art style is the worst, especially when comparing to either Oddparents, Danny Phantom or TUFF Puppy.

 

[Life is Hell...]

Have yet to look over the script, but christ fucking almighty these character designs are an actual Eye Sore.
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(This black girl is supposed to be our main character/Timmy replacement, what the fuck)
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Don't forget about the main character's Non-Binary best friend

 

[Anonitolia]

Don't forget about the main character's Non-Binary best friend
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This reboot feels like the result of asking some edgy teenage dudes to come up with a stereotypically modern cartoon reboot
I wish I could say I can't believe what i'm reading is real, but I'm so far past that point by now. Totally desensitized lol.

 

[Oats12345]

The fairy Oddparents news makes me sad. Just leave the franchise alone.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

This reality sucks ass.
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\co\ is saying the title is clickbait, apparently she is receiving it for The Office. Either way, what the fuck.

As a mini off-topic rant, The Office seriously has to be Astro-turfed right? The show is fine, but how is it that 10 years after airing it has this massive comeback to the point where there is merchandise everywhere, memes, a god damn recreation attraction (The Office Experience), and so much more. I went to Target the other day, and there is a Baby version of the Office in the books section.



Where the hell did this all come from? Was the few months on Netflix really that impactful? This all comes back to animation and this news as you know the only reason Mindy is being pushed now is because of this show. It is the only thing people know her for, but how did it come back like this in the first place?

 

[Shidoen]

This reality sucks ass.
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[𖦹Junkpop𖦹]

This reality sucks ass.
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nigga can russia and china come bomb us for fucks sake

 

[Super-Chevy454]

The fairy Oddparents news makes me sad. Just leave the franchise alone.

And it isn't the only franchise who won't be left alone. I saw an article published last fall who mentioned then the Canadian tv series The Beachcombers will get an animated adaptation. I hope they won't turn it woke but I'm sketical about this. However if it was done in the same way as Corner Gas...

 

[Corbax]

a god damn recreation attraction (The Office Experience)

Is the economy really so shit that you need to go to an amusement exhibit to make you feel like you have an office job?

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

Don't forget about the main character's Non-Binary best friend
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These characters miss the point of Fairygodparents in FOP. They get assigned to kids who are miserable, so losers of some sort. Timmy was a perfect example of this and his loser status was reflected by his friends. A poor trailer trash kid and a socially awkward genius from over protected family. Sure AG was still a positive role model token black buthe was consistent with the main idea. Heck Timmy's secondary friends of a boy with a huge boil and an effeminate Indian gay kid were not coolest or anything like that.

 

[Colon capital V]

Don't forget about the main character's Non-Binary best friend
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Yknow maybe instilling some of Butch's Christian values into this show wouldn't be such a bad idea.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

Is the economy really so shit that you need to go to an amusement exhibit to make you feel like you have an office job?

Apparently.

I actually went and did the attraction as my brother was a massive Office fan, because Netflix. Even then, the whole thing just seemed weird. It is literally just an office, but ohh, you could find the stapler in the jello, or take a picture with Kevin’s chili:

I guess I can’t claim that there isn’t an audience, but it is still crazy to think one got created for this type of thing. I can understand wanting to an attraction for something like Star Wars, but not one for a basic sitcom.

 

[Papa stink]

These characters miss the point of Fairygodparents in FOP. They get assigned to kids who are miserable, so losers of some sort. Timmy was a perfect example of this and his loser status was reflected by his friends. A poor trailer trash kid and a socially awkward genius from over protected family. Sure AG was still a positive role model token black buthe was consistent with the main idea. Heck Timmy's secondary friends of a boy with a huge boil and an effeminate Indian gay kid were not coolest or anything like that.

How do you fuck up FOP lore? I wouldn't even call it lore, it's the basic premise that's explained every episode in the intro. Although considering the people they get to make adaptations I doubt they've even seen anything other than a few screenshots of the original.

I went to Target the other day, and there is a Baby version of the Office in the books section.

I can't wait to see them teach kids lgbt issues with Oscar. They even have the perfect scene that they could adapt:

 

[Anonitolia]

Reading the script (of the FOP reboot), about a quarter of the way through (will edit with more thoughts as I go along)...
It feels like it's sort of, kind of there. Like, the humor is almost passable. The names of cities and stuff fits into the universe just fine (Dimmadelphia is the best part of this whole thing so far). But I have to agree with Amber's statement here from earlier; it really misses the spirit of the original in a really odd way.

Like, the kid the pair are now assigned to is a smart cookie with a hobby that's clearly keeping her fulfilled and two well-off, well-educated parents, one of which just happens to study the supernatural. I'll never diss this as a concept for a show with magic in it due to how much inherent conflict and interesting plot it can drive, but here it detracts from the fact that Godparents are supposed to go to downtrodden kids and yet this child of two damn scientists in a big city FULL of less-privileged people is getting a pair for... some reason?
It's not like her parents are very special, either. Her dad's a bit kooky, but he's otherwise normal. Her mother is just the very stereotypical "cold hard working mom" type that's been around for a bit now. Neither are disabled, neither treat her poorly (quite the opposite), and she seems perfectly well-off in life- if not better than most.

Also, stuff like this makes me wince a bit. Any time I hear someone over the age of 20 say/write "vibing" a little part of me dies inside. Why are people putting that kind of informal talk into official show scripts now?


EDIT: Okay, so she's socially awkward. That's... nowhere near close to godparent-worthy. That's like the default for half the population by this point. Seriously, why does she have these godparents?
And why are these scriptwriters so bad at describing basic character traits? "Rich" is a type of social status, not a personality! I know why they're doing this, it's just stupid.

That aside, why does this kid suddenly turn semi-friendly and tell Hazel about everyone there? Why is Hazel talking about "stimulus" when sitting down to have lunch? Is there a single elementary kid out there who'd be using that word- and, if so, why would that kid be unaware enough to not notice wet paint in the place that kid chose to sit down in? Even if the kid was too worried about social situations (which you'd have to be REALLY worried about to ignore something about that, something that is... mostly a teenager thing), she'd not only notice the paint was wet the moment she sat down but she'd also be able to spot that shit a mile away.

...wait a minute, if this cafeteria has wet paint on its benches, why is it not VERY OBVIOUSLY indicating as much on the affected tables? Or is open at all?! Aaaagh, I'm going to stop asking stupid questions and get on with this.

EDIT 2: The table had a sign but she ignored it because she was nervous about social things.
The more this goes on the more I'm convinced they really really wanted to make Hazel a teenager. She's blowing up at perfectly normal inconveniences (oh no a flight was cancelled due to a storm), extremely mild teasing (the worst she got was someone laughing at her for a stupid mistake she made and mispronouncing her name a few times, with the "bully" even apologizing after the first incident), unreasonably nervous about semi-normal social activities, and ignoring the fact that her teacher and parents are in full support of her to run away and get her brother back (admittedly, probably the most kiddy thing she's done so far).
Are the writers trying to paint these problems as bigger than they are to change the status quo and say godparents go to anyone with even mild problems? Are they trying to make those problems out to be worse than they are because that's how they genuinely see them? So many questions, and yet no answers.
Just more pain.

EDIT 3:

Either the visuals are explaining something that this script isn't, or this is Cosmo being braindead stupid again. I hope it's the latter, even if early-season Cosmo is best Cosmo excluding the pilot shorts where he's even better.

No comment, fuck politics in kids shows


EDIT 4:
Why does this read like really bad fanfic lol

And... this was totally an original project retconned into a reboot. That, or they're completely missing the tone and trying to make up for that with references to the old show. Neither would surprise me.

EDIT 5: Okay, done. No more edits after this (hopefully).
That... wasn't terrible, but it wasn't good. Probably bad. It's extremely generic, at least in comparison to what the original was like, and it almost seems like it's trying to be the Magic School Bus of all things on occasion. Kids taking unintentional trips to fantastical places with an educational segment or moral shoved in there (there's a part about Venus Flytrap hairs and how ants gather honey near the end) under the guidance of a questionably-moral adult (or two, in this case) made up of a diverse cast of mostly-toothless children with a somewhat saccharine tone?
I don't know, I'm probably drawing comparisons where I shouldn't be, but I felt some similarities. Shame it didn't get Magic School Bus' charm right or FOP's... mostly-everything right.

I'm not looking forward to it. The most we'll probably hear of it is some tepid outrage over the non-binary kid or a possible butchering of the theme song.
It's just another god-awful unnecessary reboot made purely to push toy sales and a Californian agenda (for the benefit of nobody but the inbred show staff and their DEI score) to add to the pile.

 

[Oats12345]

This reality sucks ass.
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Why would you honor someone a award for a show that hasn't been on the air for ten years? At least Mickey Donovan was on going when Trump gave a award for Jon Voight.

 

[TVB]

Don't forget about the main character's Non-Binary best friend
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I have no idea why, but it reminds me of this:

 

[Anonitolia]

I have no idea why, but it reminds me of this:
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It's the hair and colors, I think. Both have a purple top with gray everything else and red highlights. Also, light skin.