War Armed Russian jets have flown over a U.S. base in Syria nearly every day in March, U.S. commander says - Why does the US have a base in Syria?

Lt. Gen. Alexus Grynkewich told NBC News that Russian jets have violated the airspace of At Tanf Garrison roughly 25 times this month, including Wednesday.​



March 22, 2023, 9:17 PM UTC
By Courtney Kube

Armed Russian jets have flown over a U.S. military garrison in Syria nearly every day in March, violating a 4-year-old agreement between the U.S. and Russia and risking escalation, according to the U.S. general in charge of air operations in the region.

Lt. Gen. Alexus Grynkewich, combined forces air component commander for U.S. Central Command, told NBC News on Wednesday that the most recent Russian overflight of At Tanf Garrison (ATG) happened just a few hours earlier, and that Russian jets have violated the airspace roughly 25 times so far this month, compared to zero times in February and 14 in January.

“It is a substantial increase,” he said, explaining that at this rate they are “on track to be double what it has been in the past.”
“They’re regularly flying directly overhead of our units, and I’ve defined directly overhead, as within about a mile, no more than a mile offset one side or the other, while we’ve got forces right there on the ground at ATG,” said Grynkewich. “So it’s an uncomfortable situation.”

The Russian aircraft include Su-34 jets. Some aircraft carry air-to-air weapons and others carrying air-to-ground munitions; weapons include radar-guided and heat-seeking missiles and bombs.

This disclosure comes in the wake of an incident over the Black Sea last week in which two Russian Su-27 fighter jets flew aggressively around a U.S. MQ-9 Reaper drone, dumping fuel on the drone and eventually colliding with it, forcing the U.S. to down the drone in the water.

Grynkewich said he does not think the Russians have any incentive to use weapons against the U.S. military in Syria. “But it just increases the risk of miscalculation, and given things like the MQ-9 incident in the Black Sea, it’s not the kind of behavior that I’d expect out of a professional Air Force.”

The U.S. military has used the established deconfliction phone line it shares with the Russians to protest the actions, but it has not changed Russian behavior. Instead, said Grynkewich, during the calls the Russians have told the U.S. they don’t recognize all the airspace over At Tanf (also known as Al Tanf) as U.S. airspace or that they are responding to coalition activity in the area.

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The At Tanf Garrison military outpost in Syria in 2018.Lolita Baldor / AP

In 2019 the U.S. and Russia established rules of the air over Syria in order to avoid accidental and potentially provocative encounters. Both sides agreed that direct overflight of each other’s positions on the ground, particularly with armed aircraft, was not acceptable.

“The Russians have over the last several months seemed to abandon that tenet of the protocols,” Grynkewich said. The Russians still insist the U.S. stay away from Russian ground units, he explained, and the U.S. is adhering to that. But the Russians have even flown directly over U.S. troops on the ground in southern Syria, which he called provocative.

Grynkewich said the Russians could be taking a more aggressive posture to put pressure on the U.S. military presence in Syria, which they disagree with. But he said the fact that both the U.S. and Russia are supposed to be opposed to ISIS in Syria, and with the continuing — and in some cases growing — presence of ISIS in Syria, “it seems like a very strange time to do this.”

So far the overflights have not affected U.S. military operations on the ground, but the U.S. or the international coalition against ISIS does respond to Russian aircraft, often shadowing them from afar. Grynkewich warned that if they had to respond to a Russian flight during a U.S. military operation on the ground, it could put the mission in jeopardy.

“What it is really is a distraction from the fight against ISIS,” he said. “It hasn’t affected the fight on the ground yet, but it certainly has the potential to.”

“I’m not concerned about overt hostilities, I’m concerned about a miscalculation or unprofessional or immature action by somebody.”

“Over the course of my career I have not seen this kind of disregard for agreed upon protocols and deconfliction rules,” he said. “So this is very unique, what we’re seeing right now.”

The Russian Embassy in Washington, D.C., did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

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Why the fuck do we have a base in Syria? Is this in some rebel territory we are funding and going to be used to turn Syria into another Iraq War?

Have you been asleep the last 11/12 years ?

About a third of the country is still under control of US aligned Kurdish factions following the threat of ISIS being mostly neutralized years ago and the active fronts of the civil war grinding to a halt, and some of it under Turkish control as well.

If it means tying up Russian and Iranian assets for practically no cost we'll just keep it up indefinitely, it's not like Syrian, Russian and Iranian forces are suddenly going to nut up and start a larger conflict if they haven't been able to force out the few hundred people we've had there all this time.
 
Why the fuck do we have a base in Syria? Is this in some rebel territory we are funding and going to be used to turn Syria into another Iraq War?
When the civil war started, the US and Russia were both trying to support groups who would be favorable to them. Russia and the US have been communicating demarcation lines in the area. There is also the issue of Wagner taking over oil derricks and mines and selling the product themselves. Given Wagner's status as a not-PMC but a PMC, it further complicates things. This is why Wagner got bombed that one time when the Russian military said they had no soldiers in the area.
 
Have you been asleep the last 11/12 years ?

About a third of the country is still under control of US aligned Kurdish factions following the threat of ISIS being mostly neutralized years ago and the active fronts of the civil war grinding to a halt, and some of it under Turkish control as well.

If it means tying up Russian and Iranian assets for practically no cost we'll just keep it up indefinitely, it's not like Syrian, Russian and Iranian forces are suddenly going to nut up and start a larger conflict if they haven't been able to force out the few hundred people we've had there all this time.
As of 2022 there were about 900 US troops left in Syria. They're not tying up anything or anyone, as they don't leave their base out of fear of attacks.

Main reason they're not leaving yet is because a withdrawal will be embarrassing to the Biden admin. "Look, they're running away from Syria without accomplishing anything, just like in Afghanistan." While they're there, the mission isn't technically a failure yet.
 
If they don't want Russian planes flying overhead, maybe they should fuck off back home to muttland.

Why ?

If Russia can tolerate hundreds of thousands of their troops living in danger of American artillery landing on their heads everyday I'm pretty sure we can tolerate them impotently flying over a few hundred of our troops a little more often than usual.
 
Why ?

If Russia can tolerate hundreds of thousands of their troops living in danger of American artillery landing on their heads everyday I'm pretty sure we can tolerate them impotently flying over a few hundred of our troops a little more often than usual.
Personally I don't care. I find the idea of American troops hiding from drone strikes amusing. Something about the shoe being on the other foot now.



But really, sacrificing 900 troops just to prop up a failing administration is low even for America. No wonder you people are having problems finding recruits for the army.
 
They're not tying up anything or anyone, as they don't leave their base out of fear of attacks.

lol, I guess Assad just doesn't give a fuck about 1/3 of his country being in rebel hands. Otherwise he could just sweep in anytime and humiliate us.

"Look, they're running away from Syria without accomplishing anything, just like in Afghanistan."

I'm pretty sure relative to the cost of what we have deployed we're accomplishing plenty. Of course we would actually have to be forced out before anyone could claim we ran away, so what's the hold up ?
 
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lol, I guess Assad just doesn't give a fuck about 1/3 of his country being in rebel hands. Otherwise he could just sweep in anytime and humiliate us.
Keeping a presence in Syria is far more costly to the US than to Assad/Iran/Russia/China at the moment. Those are all resources that the US could've redirected to Taiwan or Ukraine.

Also, your own allies are doing a good enough job at humiliating you now. [laughs in Turk]

I'm pretty sure relative to the cost of what we have deployed we're accomplishing plenty. Of course we would actually have to be forced out before anyone could claim we ran away, so what's the hold up ?
So what exactly have you accomplished in Syria? Or Afghanistan, for the matter?

Again, the only reason the US still has a presence in Syria is to avoid another humiliating withdrawal on Biden's watch. Poor bastards can't even leave their base. Got drones bombing them, Russians flying overhead, Turks bombing all that Kurdish scum that they were training for all those years... fucking embarrassing.

Edit: And for yet another humiliation, another one of America's allies just turned their back on them.
 
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lol, I guess Assad just doesn't give a fuck about 1/3 of his country being in rebel hands. Otherwise he could just sweep in anytime and humiliate us.
alot of it is pretty worthless and full of kurds. the bigger issue are the turks and their little terrorist frens, but kicking those out would be very costly because the turks would go all in at that point.
 
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Keeping a presence in Syria is far more costly to the US than to Assad/Iran/Russia/China at the moment. Those are all resources that the US could've redirected to Taiwan or Ukraine.

Also, your own allies are doing a good enough job at humiliating you now. [laughs in Turk]


So what exactly have you accomplished in Syria? Or Afghanistan, for the matter?

Again, the only reason the US still has a presence in Syria is to avoid another humiliating withdrawal on Biden's watch. Poor bastards can't even leave their base. Got drones bombing them, Russians flying overhead, Turks bombing all that Kurdish scum that they were training for all those years... fucking embarrassing.

Edit: And for yet another humiliation, another one of America's allies just turned their back on them.
Oh look the Arab is very unhappy the Americans are in Syria.
 
'We' have a base in Syria because ISIS is still trying to fuck each other in the ass there.
What do you think ISIS stands for?
"You" have a base in Syria because America is training ISIS terrorists there.

Oh look the Arab is very unhappy the Americans are in Syria.
Lmao, the seething poopoo pajeet has blessed yet another thread. Don't forget to wash your hands after leaving the thread, everyone.
 
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