Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Rapunzel]

Refusal to learn about how vaginas work is part of the reason troons think they can surgically get one.

I'm kinda joking, but after all the "It's femanism/whamens fault we have troons" sperging I've seen, it's kinda fun to dish it back on men.

Indeed, the whole, 'if we take female hormones and shove random shit in our brand new skin tunnels to create a "biome" it will magically become just like a vagina', is hilarious.

 

[Cascade]

STAHP!!


JUST STOP

PLEASE!


FOR THE LOVE OF…



May your vag be dry, your boobs sore and troons get into your dms.

May men who sex you get struck with premature ejaculation!

Dude, I can totally understand your displeasure with discussion of female urinary issues, but it's literally a thread about experimental surgery, with pictures of gore, pus and mutilated genitals. I bet this is the least nasty thing you can find here lol

 

[Deepland Bystander]

TiM wants nullification after botched vaginoplasty. u/No-Judgment-930
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Vaginoplasty Regret

I had a penile inversion Vaginoplasty a few years ago and have come to regret it, not because of the decision itself but because of how poor the results are. At this point, I’m seriously considering nullification, as I have very little sensation and worse aesthetics because of erectile tissue that was missed.

I’ve an upcoming appointment to discuss revision surgery and to what extent the situation can be remedied (I know the sensation is irretrievable). I plan to ask the surgeon if nullification is an option, provided I don’t have other, better options.

I’ve had very little luck in finding any information on people who’ve had nullification following a Vaginoplasty.
If anyone else has been in a similar situation, I would greatly appreciate any info you can provide.
Thank you!

*The account is brand new because there are people who follow my main account with whom I’d rather not discuss this just now.

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To those asking about the Surgeon, it was Schecter, and yes I’d recommend avoiding him. I had chosen him because a friend of mine had used him and been quite happy.

Dr. Loren Schechter of Chicago​

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Unironically I think that any detransitioners who had their genital butchered should just go nullo. It is more honest that way, and because trying to get stinkditches and rotdogs are going to be full of complications and far from the real thing even if it's on the "right" sex.

 

[Less Nasty Old Person]

Trans women are women, in the same way a law student is a practicing attorney.

A law student can actually become a lawyer*. A trans woman can never become a woman,

*not Yaniv tho

 

[Ms. Bitters]

[7:20] - [14:45]
I was listening to this interview between Benjamin boyce and an "AGP neuroscientist", who stated an interesting fact about a hormonal epoch that occurs in the perinatal period (before birth) if the child is a male, he gets a huge influx of both estrogen and testosterone which maximizes his brain, it prunes certain areas to delete themselves or expand, and this doesn't happen if the child is a female. This process is responsible for much of the masculinization of the brain and the difference between boys and girls since childhood.

I have heard before that one of the "strongest" evidence for transgenderism is a study that proved that these men somehow have "female brains", and I don't know if injecting estrogen long after puberty and birth would change their brains in any way.

In one of her videos, I believe Blaire White said this was the reason she's trans, or something to that effect. She definately mentioned hormone amounts in the womb.

Taking estrogen is dumb if you're a biological male, though, especially if you already proport to have a "female brain". I imagine a man taking estrogen feels more similar to a woman taking the wrong birth control--mood swings, anxiety, low sex drive, brain fog, weight fluctuations--than a true and honest woman. That's a hell I couldn't imagine purposely putting myself through for so little benefit.

Refusal to learn about how vaginas work is part of the reason troons think they can surgically get one.

I'm kinda joking, but after all the "It's femanism/whamens fault we have troons" sperging I've seen, it's kinda fun to dish it back on men.

No no, don't soften the blow. You are right. People refusing to learn about basic biology, and people constructing barriers around biological knowledge, is exactly how we got into this mess.

It's not a TV stereotype--a lot of men out there absolutely balk at any talk about vaginas that doesn't involve fucking them, and that's so immature and regressive it makes me want to scream. Cocks and vagoos are body parts just like anything else. If you are straight or bi, there's a pretty good chance that you're going to have to directly associate with the genitals of the opposite sex at some point in your life. If you're gay, apparently there's a chance that you're gonna slice your shit up and try to switch teams. It really behooves everyone to know how both sets work.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

Then told me that because they found abnormal cells I was going to have exploratory cervical surgery because cancer.

Anyone who doesn't care about cervical health/post-abnormal pap smear pathways is spared by the spoiler:

Spoiler: OT but important health info

This makes no sense whatsoever. Less than zero. There is no "exploratory cervical surgery" after an abnormal pap smear. The paths for assessing and addressing cervical dysplasia are pretty clear, and though maybe some methods have improved, the general pathways are the same as they have been for at least 33 years [that's a combo of personal experience back then (call it 1990) and just now confirming current approach at the formal cancer.org page on it (informative and gives at least the standard mainstream approach; it's a good and clearly written resource].

Spoiler: Diagnostic stuff

When there's an abnormal result, they may simply monitor it or have you come back sooner than your next annual. Depending on smear results, they may say wait or retest in 3 or 6 months, especially if results were marginal or extremely low-level. If it's a certain type or seems to be of a certain level of severity, then they go to "exploratory" things - investigation via colposcopy and/or biopsy. (It's a judgment call; some docs are more aggressive than others going to more intense diagnostics; individual factors are also typically considered, but the more individual approach is of more recent vintage than your or my times of reference).

The colposcopy is literally exploratory, involving a highly magnified examination of your cervix/cells. It's often combined with a biopsy. The biopsy is technically "surgery," I guess, since they take a punch of tissue, but it's a biopsy. It all takes a few minutes, in-office, is about as fun as a cervical exam can be, and the biopsy is a kind of gross pinch. You may bleed a bit after.

If they told you it was or called it "exploratory surgery," I am sorry, because that sounds terrifying and like way more than what it is.

Spoiler: Treatment stuff

After that step, if further treatment is warranted (and this is also typically after more than one abnormal smear in a row or within a certain amount of time, unless observed cells are of a certain type or grade warranting immediate removal), treatments still aren't typically "surgery." If the changes are significant enough, then yes, they want to remove the abnormal cells to prevent or stop the spread or allow abnormal cells to become moreso.

Depending on results of the colposcopy and biopsy, and other factors, including what they have available, this may be done by (most commonly) cryotherapy (freezing them off), laser, or LEEP conization, none of which are general anaesthetic surgeries - done in-office, moderate discomfort and likely some bleeding after.

Conization may also be done with a scalpel - it's excision by blade, so yes, surgery in a hospital under general, but given the myriad less invasive options, it's just not going to be the go-to unless necessary... but that's not exploratory surgery, it's surgery to remove tissue.

You don't see an oncologist for 98% these things, because they are easily treatable and there are several paths that generally align to the type of abnormality, the degree of dysplasia, and the depth and breadth of it - which is not determined by surgery but by the colposcopy and biopsy.

HPV and Pap Test Results: Next Steps after an Abnormal Cervical Cancer Screening Test

Learn what HPV and Pap test results mean and next steps if a test result is abnormal.

www.cancer.gov

The other person you mentioned sounds like a different situation than diagnostic/ exploratory stuff. A biopsy doesn't require a lot of healing (anything's possible, I guess), so if anything she probably was getting some actual attempt at treatment. Still don't know how they could fuck it up so bad, but medical malpractice is definitionally dangerous, and lasers and liquid nitrogen aren't things you want being handled clumsily. Sounds like her command handled it all egregiously - and insultingly, to boot.

 

[weirdwound]

Stink ditches must smell cheesy like stretched earlobes.

 

[LaughJoke2.0]

Stink ditches must smell cheesy like stretched earlobes.

Back in 04 HBO did a series called Pornucopia Down in the Valley and it was a series on the U.S. Porn Industry.

In one episode they talked about a minor hygiene issue that sometimes happens a girl will have to work when on her period, so she'll shove a sponge up there. Well occasionally they'll forget about it and a few days later they're working again, and a guy or girl has to go down on them and immediately starts retching because of the awful smell coming out of the vagina. It's because there is a sponge of dead blood up there.

I imagine a stink ditch smells no better and hence one of the many reasons why no lesbians are interested in them.

 

[Aunt Carol]

I fear the reason we see so many fucked up young pooners in this thread is because no one seeing these clients is doing their fucking job like they should. If you have an autistic kid seeing a doctor for a cough they will get treated for the cough. But if you have a little troon child who needs help with depression/autism/dyslexia they will only get treated for their gender feelings.

The funny thing is that you hear troons complain about "Trans Broken Arm Syndrome." If you are transgender and you present with anything, the ignorant doctors will connect it back to being trans. (I think they stole this from HAES.)

And yet, this: as soon as the patient self-diagnoses as transgender, it's up to a literal crime to suggest any other etiology for their conditions.

 

[Det. Frank Washington Esq]

A law student can actually become a lawyer*. A trans woman can never become a woman,

*not Yaniv tho

Agree, they will never pass the bar.

 

[Megaton Punch]

The funny thing is that you hear troons complain about "Trans Broken Arm Syndrome." If you are transgender and you present with anything, the ignorant doctors will connect it back to being trans. (I think they stole this from HAES.)

And yet, this: as soon as the patient self-diagnoses as transgender, it's up to a literal crime to suggest any other etiology for their conditions.

"Doctor my arm hurts"

Yes, that's because you had a mad butcher remove all the skin from it and now it's infected because your immune system is perma-fucked from all the internet bathtub hormones you took

"lmfao you really think my arm hurts because I'm trans foh this is why we need more trans doctors also can I get a refill on these twelve prescriptions thank you"

 

[batteredpancakes]

update on this chick

TiF's vaginectomy site opens back up after 5 months.
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Could this be a serious complication of a vaginectomy?

I had a vaginectomy in October and everything went very well until recently. I started feeling a lot of friction in the area and I sometimes started feel a lot of pain from it when walking. I decided to look with my phone to see what was going on and it looks like it didn't heal and has opened up. This feels serious since the mucous membranes are removed. There is almost no information about vaginectomies since they are so rare. Is this something serious? I really don't want to contact gyn unless absolutely necessary.

Edit: I have contacted the hospital now and asked for advice and told them who my surgeon was. So now I just have to wait for an answer.

Here's some concerning comments from her

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It's not that easy. I don't have any way of contacting the surgeon directly. I need to contact the hospital and have them book an appointment with a doctor. I don't think online consultation is even an option and the hospital is almost 2 hours away.

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I could go to a general doctor but it is 99.9% likely that they have no experience with these kinds of procedures, emergency service will most likely deny me as this is not an emergency. The only way I can get an appointment with an experienced doctor is to contact the hospital that did my surgery. It's not certain that I can even get an appointment within a month of waiting.

I know it's Sweden and under public healthcare but you should always have contact info of any specialist you get surgery from. How else would you get appropriate information and advice regarding complications? SMH

Now she has a fever and freaking out.

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I'm freaking out. Could these things be related?

I had a vaginectomy on October 10th 2022 and I have recently discovered that it looks like it didn't heal correctly, there is an opening there. The problem is that I am currently really sick, I have a fever, I have thrown up 10 times, I have pain everywhere and no energy at all. Could the illness be caused by a complication from the vaginectomy? I have contacted the hospital that did the surgery but I only got a phone call with a doctor first on the 29th. My countries healthcare system is absolute trash so it's really hard to get help.

It's likely unrelated to her shitty vaginectomy but she has some interesting insight to Swedens healthcare.

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It doesn't have any of the classical signs of infection, it just looks open and I couldn't see any opening before I did the vaginectomy so it's really concerning when they are supposed to have removed that part of my body. I also think it's most likely some kind of viral gastroenteritis but I wanted to ask to be sure that it wasn't related. I have tried to contact the a doctor but they haven't answered. There are some clinics open but the healthcare system in my country is horrendous and last time I was at the ER they were extremely incompetent.

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Last time I went to the ER they just left me without any IV and let me get so dehydrated that my throat felt like it was going to close. The help buttons there did nothing no matter how many times I pressed them. They let my potassium levels get dangerously high and sodium levels dangerously low because they didn't keep track of my blood values despite testing them. I had all symptoms of appendicitis and they still just ignored me and tried to refuse to give me painkillers despite me being in so much pain that I was just shaking in cold sweats. They ended up putting me on antibiotics only to take me off them directly after and send me home. I was sick for 3 more weeks. The healthcare system here is horrendous. I am at my parents house so I am not alone but I don't know if the ER would even take me in. The last time when I had thrown up blood and was in 10/10 pain they tried to get me to take public transportation in to the hospital and I had to beg them to send an ambulance, they didn't take me serious despite severe pain and several blood markers indicating severe bacterial infection.

I have contacted the hospital that did the surgery but I only got a phone call with a doctor first on the 29th.
Surgery complications get you only a phonecall with "a doctor" an entire week after calling? Jesus

 

[neverendingmidi]

Surgery complications get you only a phonecall with "a doctor" an entire week after calling? Jesus

As someone who was in the military, with “free healthcare”, you get what you pay for.

God do you get what you paid for.

 

[Kujo Jotaro]

There is. You can refuse to take the shot. I did. You can refuse to wear the mask. I did. You can be sensible about social distancing (don’t visit the elderly when you’re sick is very sensible. Two healthy people outdoors in a park bench is fine, I was sensible and I ignored the rest and they were actually arresting people at this point in the UK.) people could have rejected all these dictats, they just didn’t want the hassle. They were afraid. It’s the same with the tranny stuff. They go along with it becasue the alternative is unpleasant.

Coming out against it is the action. Refusing it is the action. Nobody expects one person to stop the juggernaut. If enough ‘one people’ do, it stops. Same as covid. All these lobby groups like WPATH, governmental advisors and NGOs can be stopped in their tracks of enough people say ‘no.’ You don’t even have to make a huge fuss, you just refuse to go along with it.
The medical and scientific fields have lost almost all their public trust.

Right, maybe I wasn't clear. My point was that refusing the shot was a simple(while also understandably stressful and nerve racking for those potentially being put out of work, myself included) action that was a clear indication of where you stood on the issue. Most physicians aren't going to be given a clear method of expressing their disapproval of hormone's, surgery, or any of the psych lunacy that goes on in the tranny clinics. They're about as culpable as the next guy with an advanced degree, and have about as much of a say in it as your average Joe. That's why when you see these bill's being pushed through that ban transgender "care" it's on the back of the average joe. By this I mean enough parents have raised a stink, as they very well have a right to do, about the things they're teaching kids, and the clear grooming that's been going on in education. Enough of a stink that certain state legislator's feel they need to take action. Like you said, if enough people say no, this psychological contagion can stop being enabled, but that's going to take more than physician's or other health care professional's acting alone.

I understand your distrust of medical practitioner's, but on this point I think you're letting your bias over ride sensibility. We'll just have to agree to disagree I suppose.

 

[Otterly]

Surgery complications get you only a phonecall with "a doctor" an entire week after calling? Jesus

I used to live and work in Sweden. Yes, shes unfortunately right. GPs will see you in weeks and weeks time, or a phone call in a week or so. there’s no concept of ‘your surgeon will give you their number.’ Doctors are poorly paid and you can’t sue for anything. When I lived there there was a woman who woke up during a c section and they held her down and carried on with it . I know this sounds absolutely insane but I swear it is true. She sued and got about twenty five dollars equivalent compo and no apology. Swedish healthcare is a joke. Even the nhs is better. Apparently it’s even worse now, and for this you pay taxes out the arse
The article about the c section, https://archive.ph/pPHzt
A fever after surgery needs to be seen quickly, especially if there’s an opened wound and drainage.

 

[booklover]

I got a buddy who used to be a boob surgeon and he texted me once in full hysterics because a lady died on his table just trying to get some DD's. This gets real scary when you learn he revealed once that a lot of his colleages just see patients as walking paychecks.

He got outta cosmetic surgery and into general practice. Think he's dishing out rash creams and listening to heartbeats in Nowhere, Kansas right now and couldn't be happier.

Another powerlevel: I spent the morning of 9/11 in a plastic surgeon's office. No, I wasn't getting DD's (I already have them, and you wouldn't be impressed if you saw me); instead, I was having a cyst removed from my scalp.

I went back there for the same thing in 2016, and he didn't remember me, even after I told him when I was last there. He's close to retirement age by now, and while he's always done purely cosmetic procedures, he also did plenty of "medical" procedures, and in fact, at every appointment, all the other people in the waiting room were elderly, probably having skin cancer revisions or other similar kinds of things.

 

[Piss Bear]

I imagine a stink ditch smells no better and hence one of the many reasons why no lesbians are interested in them.

I think the only living thing on planet earth interested in eating out a neovag is maggots. Even then, who knows, even they might have standards.

 

[booklover]

LaughJoke, those women are really lucky that they didn't end up with toxic shock syndrome. I never used Rely tampons, but I knew other girls who did, and they said those things lived up to their names, as in they never leaked. BTW, back when diaphragms were much more commonly used methods of birth control, some women used them for, ahem, double duty.

Some of this troon talk reminds me of some people who think that it can be mandated that any doctor who has a patient inquire about an abortion must perform it. Sorry, it doesn't work that way either.

 

[Slideshow Bill]

realised we haven't seen Ashton (of the 'open hot dog for 6 months Technique'), gradually turning grey and bald through the sheer stress of copium generation) for a while now.

Went looking and happened to find this, which seems to be more of a shitposting / backup channel for Exulansic when her current main one is inevitably deleted.
Anyway, seems like Ashton has had a big break from posting- most recent video (boring 'trans fitness' with more people in the comments saying 'good to have you back', or 'isnt that just fitness?'. there was a pic of fat ashton tho which makes tiny shoulders and hips look insane

Spoiler: lol

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u/btmk has posted a close up of her graftsite because she's concerned about the healing.

Spoiler: looks awful

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Some of the TiFs think it's necrosis. Dr. says it looks fine.

These TIFs are so casual about life destroying medical conditions. I've been more concerned over an irritated hangnail than these girls are over necrosis.

 

[Tard Whisperer]

Butcher: Stacey, Heath
Post-op Sensation: Four Stars
Post-op Satisfaction: Four Stars
Submitter: RaineBo

Spoiler: super ugly boobchop

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I had my surgery on September 15, 2022 with Dr. Heath Stacey with the NWA Center for Plastic Surgery in Arkansas. I had a great experience with Dr. Stacey and his team. They were all respectful and friendly, and I was well cared for throughout the whole process. A big positive is that Dr. Stacey doesn't require any letters. As long as the costs are covered either with insurance or out of pocket, then you're good. They also had really short wait times compared to most other surgeons. I only had to wait about 2 months for a consultation, and my surgery was scheduled for less than a month after my insurance coverage was confirmed.

My final results definitely have some aesthetic flaws. I have a lump of extra tissue or fat left behind on my left side (right side in pics). I also have some minor dog earring, but they're directly on top of the fat rolls that I already had, so they blend in pretty well. Despite these flaws, I don't plan on getting a revision. They're minor enough to me that I'm really not bothered by them. I'm pretty happy with my results overall.

I'd say if having your results be aesthetically as perfect as possible is really important to you, then you'll probably want to look elsewhere. If you're more like me and just want it over with and don't feel too strongly about aesthetics, then Dr. Stacey will do you just fine!

Butcher: Hema Thakar
Complications: nerve damage
Post-op Sensation: Two Stars
Post-op Satisfaction: Five Stars
Submitter: dorianvalentine

Spoiler: huge fat boobs cut off

I had a great experience with Dr Thakar's team. I have CareOregon through OHP on Portland, OR so I had no cost. The process was simple and I was given tons of information at every step to make me more prepared and comfortable. I am 265 lbs and was denied previously for top surgery in my home state because of my weight. Dr Thakar didn't even mention it, which I was worried about. So if you're a bigger person and you're looking for top surgery, I couldn't suggest her more. (I do think she has a BMI limit so if you're bigger than me I'd check in)

My chest was pretty large at maybe a DDD or E? They took off 10 lbs of tissue. Because of that, I had 4 drains for about 15 days. My healing has been pretty easy aside from some difficult to get past tightness and pain even at 5 months. I am seeking physical therapy for tightness and pain under my right arm. I really love my results. aside from the small dog ears, it looks amazing. I don't think I'll get a revision.

Butcher: Mang Chen
Complications: Failed arm graft
Post-op Sensation: Four Stars
Post-op Satisfaction: Five Stars
Submitter: RhaegarTiberius

Spoiler: creepy phallo with vag

I got rff phalloplasty with Drs Chen, Watt, and Safa in Jan 2021, with scrotoplasty, no UL, no vaginectomy, no clitoral burial. My split thickness graft to cover my arm failed so I had a second taken from the other leg. I experienced some difficulty with movement of my hand and wrist because of this, but with a couple months of PT I actually now have more range of motion in the surgical side wrist than my other wrist. I got glasplasty May 2021, and the titan erectile pump placed in Dec 2021. My out of pocket costs were 5500 after insurance, though I did pay more to fly to SF and stay there through my surgeries. I have erotic and tactile sensation in my penis, but can't feel temperature and have only recently started regaining sensation in my scrotum. I'm able to use my penis for sex, and my vagina and clitoris are also as functional as they were before surgery with no loss of sensarion. I'm absolutely satisfied with my surgical experience.