The Square Enix Griefing Thread

Vapewizard said:
Can't blame them. By the time that series is finished we're all gonna be at retirement age and the story is just going to be more cringy fanfic-tier stuff like all the other FF7 expanded universe stuff.
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Just think about how much they'll fuck up Cid and Shera in current year, there is no way they will be able to portray a nuanced troubled relationship like that without changing it
 
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ChefKiss said:
Just think about how much they'll fuck up Cid and Shera in current year, there is no way they will be able to portray a nuanced troubled relationship like that without changing it
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I'm still waiting for the edgelord reaction to certain people not dying. And seriously.. It would be utterly retarded at this point if that didn't change. Not just because of how the timeline changed already, or the fact that THEY KNOW now already.. but also because our emo mommies boy knows that it was one of the biggest mistakes he made now too.

Yeah, the fallout from the different changes, especially once they really start to matter, are going to be hilarious to watch! Popcorn time.
 
The Zekenator said:
If the combat isn't dog shit it'll be better than W3, and W3's everything else was at least decentish, so I'll at least consider playing it.
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Eh we'll see, Witcher 3 had stellar worldbuilding and plot/quest design and those are two things that have been severely lacking to say the least in the last few big titles from SE, Forspoken obviously being the most notorious example.
 
IDanceonTrannyGraves said:
They're deliberately calling it an "action game" and shitting on the term "jrpg". The series is dead.
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Honestly with very few shining stars these days, most JRPGs are terrible. I'd rather FF16 take a chance to reinvent the franchise (which it's been desperately needing for a very long time) than continue to flounder like its been, with the exception of FFXIV for the last decade.
 
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Abbadon's Gate said:
Honestly with very few shining stars these days, most JRPGs are terrible. I'd rather FF16 take a chance to reinvent the franchise (which it's been desperately needing for a very long time) than continue to flounder like its been, with the exception of FFXIV for the last decade.
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Monolith Soft is the only company making good JRPGs anymore (I mean there is Atlus, but Persona is cringe and for trannies). Funny that Monolith is mostly all ex Square staff from the golden age
 
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Abbadon's Gate said:
Honestly with very few shining stars these days, most JRPGs are terrible. I'd rather FF16 take a chance to reinvent the franchise (which it's been desperately needing for a very long time) than continue to flounder like its been, with the exception of FFXIV for the last decade.
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They've been doing that with the last 3 or 4 games.. and look how that has turned out.. Going even more all-in on western hack and slash/FPC is the last thing they should be doing.


Epoch said:
Monolith Soft is the only company making good JRPGs anymore (I mean there is Atlus, but Persona is cringe and for trannies). Funny that Monolith is mostly all ex Square staff from the golden age
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Have agree with the first part but can't with the () bit. Hell, troons get pissed at them every single game. lol ReeeeeEra almost banned their games more than once. lol
 
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Epoch said:
Monolith Soft is the only company making good JRPGs anymore (I mean there is Atlus, but Persona is cringe and for trannies). Funny that Monolith is mostly all ex Square staff from the golden age
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I actually just beat Persona 5 Royal two days ago for the first time and thought it was really solid.

But like the era of turn based JRPGs isn't really as in demand as it used to be, that and they keep trying these bastardized semi-action semi-turn based systems that suck ass. I'd rather take a chance at getting Shadowbringer's Story with Devil May Cry's action than get another FF13, 15, or whatever that chronotrigger shit on the switch is.
 
Sniperwoof said:
Eh we'll see, Witcher 3 had stellar worldbuilding and plot/quest design and those are two things that have been severely lacking to say the least in the last few big titles from SE, Forspoken obviously being the most notorious example.
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I liked playing Witcher when I didn't draw my sword, unfortunately I needed to do that all the time and because of that it soured my enjoyment until I gave up after 20 hours.

I'd also say I would like to see SE take queues from Trails/Kieski in terms of world building, while I wouldn't call Trails a series for everyone I think it does world building better than the majority of JRPG games. Having NPCs who actually react to shit going on and feel like they're really in the world is nice and makes me care about these locations beyond the general story beats within them. Most cities don't really feel like cities in a lot of JRPGs, they're just stages for plot and drama to occur that I only remotely give a shit about.

pikachudidnothingwrong said:
They've been doing that with the last 3 or 4 games.. and look how that has turned out.. Going even more all-in on western hack and slash/FPC is the last thing they should be doing.
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Devil May Cry is a Japanese game that arguably invented what we consider "hack and slash" as we know it, and that is a clear inspiration of some sort for many of SE's attempts at an action combat system. DMC is also good, unlike many crappy hack and slash games.

So I'll take it if they can actually make it good because if you're in the mood for it and it is made well DMC-like gameplay is a good time. KH2FM and the Remind bosses for KH3 (because the rest of that game blows ass) has shown you can do both within an RPG framework, and its fun. Just don't make it like FF15 where you can potion spam through everything and have all your moves have what feels like a million frames of end lag on unstaggerable enemies to show off your particle effects.

Action RPGs aren't bad inherently, but SE is super inconsistent about making a good combat system with good bosses. Even within KH games that are actually good they're inconsistent. I'd like a solid stream of effective challenging bosses within an action RPG that doesn't involve Souls levels of limited mobility as KH bosses are a lot of fun when they're designed by a human and not some kind of spiteful lazy asshole who thinks having bosses get random pot shots at you when you try to hit them while they're standing still is good challenging boss design.

So will FF16 be good KH gameplay or bad KH gameplay? That is the question and I can't tell from the footage that has been shown which we got here.
 
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