Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[MrJokerRager]

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Can you blame them my guy.

Their team was playing England, and guaranteed to lose even if the English team is filled with pacey useless mutts and nigger lovers who keep on kneeling and their star player should have his knees broken before or during the game because fuck Spurs.

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And Russia played their first home game since FIFA banned them for not obeying Globohomo and the US Neoliberal and Neoconservative cabal, and won.

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The movie version of Rambo is like leagues different from his book version lol.

Basically is John Brown on steroids in the book.

The movie version of Rambo is like leagues different from his book version lol.

Basically is John Brown on steroids in the book.

 

[Extremist Frank]

All of these seem to be sold above price cap
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Russia’s Diesel Exports Heading for Record Despite EU Sanctions | Ghostarchive

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The ghostarchive link won't load - does this article specifically address the price cap point? As far as I've been aware, the price cap seems to have been holding lately so would be interesting if intermediary purchasers are shrugging it off.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

...is an old outdated F-16C going to be the next wonder weapon?

Briefly. There aren't a lot of spares lying around (one thing this war is teaching us is that NATO doesn't keep a lot of spare anything lying around) and I don't know how much interoperability it has with the old-school Migs the Ukrainians would be familiar with. Also, Russia is stepping up attacks on the back line with their ghetto glide bombs, shahads, etc so I doubt they'd last long even if they arrived. I'd guess they'd be a sort of filler wunderwaffen until the next thing got promised (F-35? Abrams? Ch-46?)

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Briefly. There aren't a lot of spares lying around (one thing this war is teaching us is that NATO doesn't keep a lot of spare anything lying around) and I don't know how much interoperability it has with the old-school Migs the Ukrainians would be familiar with. Also, Russia is stepping up attacks on the back line with their ghetto glide bombs, shahads, etc so I doubt they'd last long even if they arrived. I'd guess they'd be a sort of filler wunderwaffen until the next thing got promised (F-35? Abrams? Ch-46?)

LMAO. Imagine if we promised F-35s. Oh, we'll promise them....2 years later. Long after everything is done lol.

 

[YumeNoHero]

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Ladies, this isn't Ace Combat.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

LMAO. Imagine if we promised F-35s. Oh, we'll promise them....2 years later. Long after everything is done lol.

We literally already did that with the HIMARs. We sent them like a dozen, they asked for more, we said "ummm" and cut a check to Lockheed-Martin, and passed Ukraine the IOU with a little "good luck until then!" post-it attached (in budget terms, this is considered "Aid for Ukraine.")

 

[Corpun]

Is it just me or does NAFO really fucking glow?

 

[Tamerlane]

how much would those weapons bring in in the US, if they had the proper documentation? half a million $?

I have no idea. Maybe their spending all the money on arming men with museum pieces?

 

[Fatniggo1488]

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>F-16s

Lol Serbians over 20 years ago shot down a F-16 and a F-117 which was a lot more advanced aircraft with stealth capabilities, and they did it with limited and outdated AA weapons. I really don't know why they think F-16s would be effective against AA built for modern warfare and fielded in large numbers. Keep in mind, said AA has at this point been proven capable of shooting down even himars missiles which are a lot more difficult to detect and shoot down.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

>F-16s

Lol Serbians over 20 years ago shot down a F-16 and a F-117 which was a lot more advanced aircraft with stealth capabilities, and they did it with limited and outdated AA weapons. I really don't know why they think F-16s would be effective against AA built for modern warfare and fielded in large numbers. Keep in mind, said AA has at this point been proven capable of shooting down even himars missiles which are a lot more difficult to detect and shoot down.

It's a cargo cult at this point.

 

[Scotched up Scott]

>F-16s

Lol Serbians over 20 years ago shot down a F-16 and a F-117 which was a lot more advanced aircraft with stealth capabilities, and they did it with limited and outdated AA weapons. I really don't know why they think F-16s would be effective against AA built for modern warfare and fielded in large numbers. Keep in mind, said AA has at this point been proven capable of shooting down even himars missiles which are a lot more difficult to detect and shoot down.

its a cheap and dated plane coming in at around 30mil a pop for older models. tbh these will last for about all of maybe 24 operational hours before getting toasted by aa or SUs and MIGs. aint gonna be the plane that save ukrane but maybe they can get the real ghost of Kyiv to show?

wait am I be retarded or is the country pledging these not have them?

 

[Feline Supremacist]

its a cheap and dated plane coming in at around 30mil a pop for older models. tbh these will last for about all of maybe 24 operational hours before getting toasted by aa or SUs and MIGs. aint gonna be the plane that save ukrane but maybe they can get the real ghost of Kyiv to show?

wait am I be retarded or is the country pledging these not have them?

I actually don't think the US/Lockheed will agree to sell/give because it negatively impacts the salability of the F-16 on the world arms market. No one will want to buy planes that are easily shot down by MiGs or Sukhois, and getting people to fly them is going to get even harder, since most capable pilots prefer not to increase their odds of dying.

 

[Derka Derka]

You see that area in blue? That's the territory Russia lost to the Ukrainians. They have made very little gains sense then and now can't even take a small city. They may still hold a bit of Ukrainian territory now, but that's a far cry from what they had before and what they're was.
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Russia is less interested in territory, and more interested in pummelling the Hohol military and destroying their fortress positions.

Think of WW1, where the side with the bigger/more active guns ends up slowly destroying the other side.

 

[There Is Light At The End]

Is it just me or does NAFO really fucking glow?

It was glowing from the beginning. You just started to pay attention

 

[Zman]

Ukrainian troops return home after Challenger 2 tank training in UK | Ukraine | The Guardian | Ghostarchive

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"Crews spent several weeks learning how to operate tanks expected to be used in a Ukraine counteroffensive"

It typically takes 3 months or to train a tank operator. Globohomo is just sending under-trained Ukrainian fodder to battle with their own tanks in a suicidal death-charge towards Crimea. They're gonna get mowed down completely in a great sacrifice for the goal of bringing transgender toddlers and gay marriage to Ukraine.

 

[MrJokerRager]

I was watching Hannity's interview with Trump today.

At the end of the interview, Trump was talking about how he tried to get fellow NATO members to up their spending.

He told Hannity that one of the leaders of the European nations in NATO asked him if he would abandon Europe in case of a Russian invasion because they were not paying.

And Trump told them yes that they would abandon Europe if they not going to pay in case of a Russian invasion.

And then Fox News went to commercial break lol.

Though Trump insists that he could have a peace deal within 24 hours if he becomes president.

 

[Halmaz]

What happened to the previous wunderwaffen? Does Ukraine have operational Bayraktars and HIMARS? I have not heard too much about them lately.
I can't believe we are still at the "fighter jets for Ukraine" stage. It has been discussed for a year why it would be a stupid idea, especially, if the jets are western.

 

[ForTheHoard]

Though Trump insists that he could have a peace deal within 24 hours if he becomes president.

A retarded monkey could facilitate a peace deal in 24 hours. It's called pulling NATO support from Ukraine.

 

[JoseRaulChupacabra]

He told Hannity that one of the leaders of the European nations in NATO asked him if he would abandon Europe in case of a Russian invasion because they were not paying.

And Trump told them yes that they would abandon Europe if they not going to pay in case of a Russian invasion.

This is one of the things that I really don't get in all these. If the Yooros can't uphold their side of the faustian bargain why should Uncle Sam?

 

[Harambe]

You see that area in blue? That's the territory Russia lost to the Ukrainians. They have made very little gains sense then and now can't even take a small city. They may still hold a bit of Ukrainian territory now, but that's a far cry from what they had before and what they're was.

Yeah, conserve men, equipment, and let Ukraine exhaust its backers' treasuries. They'll get as much of Ukraine as they want in the end, the only question is the price.