Female-to-male artist shoots up Presbyterian elementary school killing 6. - Female Troon (FTM) Shoots Up Christian School in Tennessee

[make_it_so]

When have conservative gun rights people ever actually done anything? They allowed their children to be marched to school with niggers at gunpoint in the 50s and did nothing. Now they allow their children to be raped and murdered and still do nothing. What good is having the right to possess a firearm if you aren't allowed to or don't have the balls to use it?

Concealed carry in 30+ states, renewal of the 1994 AWB being thwarted, expansion of "stand your ground" laws and reaffirmation of castle doctrine in response to Blue Bughive feral worship, ongoing successful challenges to bans in New York and California...I'd say they've done plenty.

But I guess the fact that you might have to run into and actually be pleasant towards people with slightly darker skin tones than you every now and then makes that all for naught, huh?

 

[The Delta Farce]

But I guess the fact that you might have to run into and actually be pleasant towards people with slightly darker skin tones than you every now and then makes that all for naught, huh?

20,000 white women raped by blacks every year and this is your response. Gun ownership is like a blankie for conservatards. You stroke your gun at night and feel better meanwhile you owning a gun literally does nothing.

 

[JambledUpWords]

This bitch is nearly as bad, if not more intolerable, than Matt Bernstein the gay Jew with painted nails.

Speaking of, here is his defense:

 

[VidMasterEon]

I think the general consensus is this happens north of a million times a year. While I've never shot someone in self defense, the presence of a firearm has stopped a crime being committed against me twice in my lifetime.

Conservative politicians are not the same as conservative voters. There's no shortage of conservative politicians that want guns to go away. An armed populous isn't a threat to any specific political party, but any and all that hold political power. It's hard to have a monopolization of force when so many of your subjects are armed.

That is the thing with security you dont often see what you prevent
Yes, americans are an imasculated populace subject to decades of dysgenics and propaganda but it is safe to say that things would be a lot worse if the population was unarmed. If you look toward places like canada you can see they would love to rip kids from families if the kid was trans but dont want to be matching dental records of feds with teeth found in pig shit when he doesnt come back from a warrant in a rural red state

Also bear in mind that the government is in a game of chicken with the population they want to oppress you as much as possible without you fighting back. If you were to snap back at their overreach and stack some bodies it gives the government a nasty black eye and loses its control by fear
It is like when a kid snaps and kicks the shit out of the school bully and everyone thinks he is a joke afterwards

 

[Ishtar]

I don't care if it's a fucking fedpost but any god fearing American has a duty to fight this degenerate ideology at any turn. If that turns out to be packing a duffle bag full of......and going to the nearest......and .....any parade goer...then you're ontologically right...

I got a tongue lashing from the mods for agreeing with you.

These people are evil, and are beyond redemption. You can not reason with them, you can only really intimidate them temporarily, there is one solution, it is simple and final.

Yet that is what we call fedposting.

 

[CIS White Droid]

I am very much against red flag laws due to that pesky "Due Process" thing, but presumably in places where they exist the parents could have reported her and she would not have been able to obtain firearms.

"a red flag law is a gun violence prevention law that permits a state court to order the temporary removal of firearms from a person who they believe may present a danger to others or themselves" Red flag laws wouldn't do shit until after the firearms had already been acquired. Regardless Tennessee has no such laws on the books and, having no licensing or registration of firearms, the state would be unaware of such purchases in the first place.

 

[ForTheHoard]

Finally, we are talking about Audrey Hale again!

Her parents, the people she was living with, knew that she had mental health problems and did not want her to own firearms. She purchased those firearms, without their knowledge, and stored them in her parents' house, without their knowledge.

Her friend from the basketball team from middle school, who she'd messaged before the shooting, told the media something to the effect of, "I'd heard from others that Audrey had been suicidal before so I knew to take this seriously." Meaning that several people knew that Audrey suffered from suicidal ideation.

When her friend called Nashville PD, with information that Audrey had expressed clear suicidal intent and had said "something bad is going to happen and it's going to make the news," they referred her to the non-emergency line and did not get back to her until hours after Audrey had killed six people.

If you do not see any opportunities for improvement here, then fine, we can agree to disagree.

Your smug dramatics are grating.

Her parents didn't want her to be trans, either. If they have the power to subvert her 2nd amendment rights, the same argument could be used for them to subvert her 1st amendment rights and forcefully detransition her. Unless a court handed over power of attorney to her parents (which they had no legal or logical reason to do), they don't have the legal ability to do shit to their adult daughter.

You also make it very clear that all of the major red flags in this situation were made without the knowledge of her parents. What was the solution there? Do they call up the government and say, "Hey, my daughter has struggled with mental illness over the years but she has no history of violence and doesn't (to our knowledge) have any means to carry out violence. Would you mind taking her against her will and institutionalizing her for an indefinite period of time in the event that she might do something in the future? Thanks." It sounds like you're idealizing SWATing people randomly with the goal of stopping a criminal maybe 1 in 10,000 times.

I totally agree with the government and law enforcement being totally incompetent and failing to take the claims seriously. I'm also not the one arguing that those same incompetent people should be the only ones allowed to own firearms, invade your privacy, and enact force. I'm arguing the opposite.

I don't particularly agree than trannies should be banned from firearms ownership, but I do think we should go back to treating it like the mental illness it is. The only reason I don't think that will work is a number of state governments have been trying to make it harder for the mentally ill to own guns for the last 20 years and all of them have exclusively use the programs to try and disarm veterans and nobody else. That has nothing to do with solving gun violence and everything to do with disarming people that could potentially threaten the government under certain circumstances.

There's plenty of first world countries all over Europe that reflect what I think may be your ideals. There's nothing stopping you from going there but you're much more likely to be the victim of violent crime. Your consolation will be that your death certificate would say "raped/stabbed/run over by truck of peace" instead of "firearm homicide."

 

[Ishtar]

Also bear in mind that the government is in a game of chicken with the population they want to oppress you as much as possible without you fighting back. If you were to snap back at their overreach and stack some bodies it gives the government a nasty black eye and loses its control by fear

This is absolutely true. As overwhelmingly powerful as the Feds are, they are absolutely loathe to see their agents be flown out in body bags. Half the government's power is in the illusion it is undefeatable. Two dead FBI agents, an ATF agent whose body they can't even bury, a SWAT meathead that will be an invalid for life...the Feds absolutely don't want to alert the populace that can actually be achieved. Yes you will die or go to Federal prison if your the one "doing it", but it breaks the illusion of government invincibility.

An illusion that will be much more real if the people are disarmed.

 

[BillTheButcher]

I am very much against red flag laws due to that pesky "Due Process" thing, but presumably in places where they exist the parents could have reported her and she would not have been able to obtain firearms.

I'm saying that a red flag law probably wouldn't have done anything here anyways. If you look at the language, even then you still need to show evidence to a judge of some sort of violent behaviour, impending on oneself or others. ERPO filing.

All she had was an emotional disorder (which woman doesn't these days) and no other priors. What does the judge have to go on, if he gets an ERPO on her? A "trust me bro" from her parents/relatives? A judge would kindly tell them to fuck off, he'd never set that precedent nor risk being constitutionally challenged.

 

[Chandelier]

Speaking of, here is his defense:
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Predictably he's using the "I'm angry at ALL gun violence!" Defense when there's not a single mention of the toddlers gunned down in Chicago like every retarded Jew out there. There is NO MENTION of gun violence in Detroit, St Louis or Chicago on his Instagram. None. Just jabs at those mean bigots.

The graph there that he's using is from socDemLeft. They love trotting it out but it neglects race.

 

[870EVO]

Second Tucker drop.

 

[Ishtar]

It's all apart of the Jew plan to turn us into a beige rootless nigger cattle. Atomize and divide.

That's applied only to Whites and you know it. Every other ethnic group is encouraged to collectivize and see themselves as part of a larger more cohesive and organic community of blood.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

That's applied only to Whites and you know it. Every other ethnic group is encouraged to collectivize and see themselves as part of a larger more cohesive and organic community of blood.

Sorry I didn't specify whites but yes that's right.

If you're white look at your average nigger or subhuman Aztec spic savage and that's what they are trying to turn you into.

Why else would every commerical be mixed race and minorities be given special treatment? They want you to turn yourself into chattel for the kikes.

Resist it. Have white kids. Reject non whites and their culture.

 

[DavidS877]

I'm saying that a red flag law probably wouldn't have done anything here anyways. If you look at the language, even then you still need to show evidence to a judge of some sort of violent behaviour, impending on oneself or others. ERPO filing.

All she had was an emotional disorder (which woman doesn't these days) and no other priors. What does the judge have to go on, if he gets an ERPO on her? A "trust me bro" from her parents/relatives? A judge would kindly tell them to fuck off, he'd never set that precedent nor risk being constitutionally challenged.

Here's the law in a state near me about what they require:

The court shall issue an extreme risk protection order if the court finds by clear and convincing evidence, based on the petition and supporting documentation and after considering a statement by the respondent, if provided, that the respondent presents a risk in the near future, including an imminent risk, of suicide or of causing physical injury to another person. The court may not include in the findings any mental health diagnosis or any connection between the risk presented by the respondent and mental illness.

So, it really depends on what the parents knew and could convince a court of. "Trust me, bro" probably not. Copy of her manifesto with photos and circles and arrows, probably.

 

[Ishtar]

Sorry I didn't specify whites but yes that's right.

If you're white look at your average nigger or subhuman Aztec spic savage and that's what they are trying to turn you into.

Why else would every commerical be mixed race and minorities be given special treatment? They want you to turn yourself into chattel for the kikes.

Resist it. Have white kids. Reject non whites and their culture.

William Luther Pierce and the moustache man were absolutely right.

Now and forever.

 

[Harvey Danger]

Followup to my previous post about /r/TransGuns locking down: they've unlocked, and they're stupid.

Spoiler: banal reddit posting

Tranny reditors' top priorities in the wake of a school shooting:

1) getting a good night's sleep

2) Telling trannies they're heckin' valid.


3) Preparing for genocide and for board raids (but I repeat myself)



4) REEEEEEEEEEEEing over Tucker Carlson and attack helicopter jokes.

Either no one wants to post, or it's being heavily monitored. It's a small subreddit with not much to say anyway.

 

[make_it_so]

20,000 white women raped by blacks every year and this is your response. Gun ownership is like a blankie for conservatards. You stroke your gun at night and feel better meanwhile you owning a gun literally does nothing.

Kiwis, again I must ask:

How is it that the latest crop of newfags are some of the most insufferably retarded faggots that we've ever had to deal with?

 

[BillTheButcher]

Here's the law in a state near me about what they require:

So, it really depends on what the parents knew and could convince a court of. "Trust me, bro" probably not. Copy of her manifesto with photos and circles and arrows, probably.

And her parents were never going to find that manifesto before the shooting took place anyways. Just like they didn't know about the guns either.

 

[870EVO]

Resist it. Have white kids. Reject non whites and their culture.

I would say that's a pretty difficult ask. Massive currency devaluation, depressed wages. Neo-Marxist ideology in the the media. What previously constituted American Culture, fairly Christian 2.5 kids and a house with a car parked in the driveway. Would seem almost like some sort of mythical fairytale to most young Men growing up today.

No wonder I'm seeing more and more 40 and 50 year old white guys with young imported Asian wives. What twenty year old Western girl today is going to marry a 40-50 year old tradesman with a nest egg?

 

[Druveer]