You also have Britain, Australia, South Korea, India, China and arguably France/Spain/Italy (they all have ships they class as Frigates but which are more inline with Destroyers). In fact out of the handful of navies that actually operate DDGs, literally the only ones who haven't put out a new one since the end of the USSR are Russia and Taiwan, who operate ex USN ones.
Actually, in a gigantic Fuck You to the American MIC, the US Navy gave the Italians the contract for their next generation Frigates.
www.defensenews.com
Ehhh... not exactly. The size of an Arleigh Burke or a British type 45 are the size of WW2 Light Cruisers. The next British Destroyer the Type 83 was originally presented to their lawmakers as a Cruiser. They balked at it so the Royal Navy scratched out Cruiser and Pencilled in Destroyer and resubmitted it. It passed no problem.
I would be pissed if my government sent me in with this shit. Dude probably told his superiors he beat sniper elite 2 on hard mode.
I had to look this up. They're phasing out the Type 45s after less than 30 years in service? The Sheffield class managed over 40 years. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised; they were a clusterfuck from the very beginning. Imagine having an air defence destroyer that had to spend its first two operational years in service without its primary armament.
Because it basically shoots their own "Oh we had to invade Ukraine to stop NATO expansion onto our borders!" propaganda argument in the foot.
The only thing that gets an advantage from being bigger is aircraft carriers, everything else is slowly trending smaller.
When the Type 45's were first commissioned, there was a store on each ship, that could only be accessed by Babcock contractors.
I think CIWS has already hit an evolutionary dead end. The future of Anti Ship missiles are going to be a hi-lo mixture of supersonic active seeking missile, cheap stealthy IR homing, and ballistic missiles. Gun bases systems are obsolete, and are really just there for moral purposes, Missiles are never going to be responsive enough.
Well even if our new frigates are made out of pasta they will at least be in properly salted water.Actually, in a gigantic Fuck You to the American MIC, the US Navy gave the Italians the contract for their next generation Frigates.
Fincantieri CEO talks US frigates, vision for Europe’s naval sector
The building of new U.S. Navy frigates in Wisconsin is about to get more efficient thanks to the introduction of techniques used to make cruise ships.
It was gigantic "shot across the bow" as it were. The Admirals were tired of the White Elephants being churned out by the US Corporations. Giving the Frigate contract to the Wops of all people was seppuku level dishonor for them. We'll probably get a next generation destroyer and cruiser design at some point here in the coming decade. Most likely from a properly chastised US company.
TBQH, I am absolutely thrilled our most modern warships are going to be built by a company that usually builds cruise ships. Cruise ships are incredibly zero sum. Its a high cost purchase that has to go fucking right every time to make a profit. If the ship fucks up even ONCE you are fucking done. Game over, bankrupt, goodbye. I am 99.9% certain Fincantieri will deliver frigates as tight as walnuts wearing corsets, and so seaworthy a Marine Private will never get seasick on them. Not the least because national pride is literally riding on the Constellation Class. If they pay off, Italian maritime shipbuilding will become HUGE. Frigates are THE naval platform for even a low tier national navy.
In order for a church to be truly independent it has to have the okay from every other independent Orthodox Church America has been trying to get the last two people to agree to it for about 45 years now.
That explains why there is a Bulgarian, Ukrainian, Greek, Serbian and Russian orthodox church within 30 minutes of where I live. Fun story. Each one fly's their respective countries flags. So yeah. Outside observer looking in, it seems to me the Orthodox Church is not really separable from the countries they represent. Which probably hurts their evangelical obligation to bring the unbeliever into the church. If American converts to the Russian Orthodox Church are any indication, the USA may need to deal with them too at some point.
Imagine them plastering the Taiwanese flag all over random cheap plastic made in China- oh, that might be tricky actually.
That depends whether we're getting meaningful debate, or "COPE KHOKHOL NATO TRANNY SHILL 30 AFU DIVISIONS ENCIRCLED IN ARTEMIVSK" etc etc
That is the best kind of Z guy they are brainwashed insane person we can laugh at. Some can make compelling arguments but those are generally dependent on how honest the Russians are being. When I think absolute truth tellers of the world I think Russia and China ect...
