Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[The Ugly One]

I'd hardly say easy. You had to have a pilot launch a tow cable and perform a tight turn to wrap it around the legs several times to trip it up... and then pour laser fire on the wreck.

Anything with a high enough center of mass to be defeated by tripping it is an easy to defeat design, which is why mechanical elephants with extra-long legs and the center of mass raised above the head aren't on any major power's technology roadmap. The reason Star Wars nerds are able to convince themselves that a mechanical elephant is good design, but an armored hover train is bad design, is solely that they like the OT and hate Disney Wars. They'll go through mental gymnastics to justify engineering/physics/tactics nonsense in the OT because they like it, but the nonsense in Disney Wars doesn't get a pass because the stories are bad, the plots are incomprehensible, and a the characters are a mix of Mary Sues and diversity tropes.

Ironically, a lot of nerds in the 1970s shit all over Star Wars because how bad the science & engineering was. IIRC I knew a guy who walked out of the movie in 1977 because of how inaccurate all the space vehicle movement was.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Anything with a high enough center of mass to be defeated by tripping it is an easy to defeat design, which is why mechanical elephants with extra-long legs and the center of mass raised above the head aren't on any major power's technology roadmap. The reason Star Wars nerds are able to convince themselves that a mechanical elephant is good design, but an armored hover train is bad design, is solely that they like the OT and hate Disney Wars. They'll go through mental gymnastics to justify engineering/physics/tactics nonsense in the OT because they like it, but the nonsense in Disney Wars doesn't get a pass because the stories are bad, the plots are incomprehensible, and a the characters are a mix of Mary Sues and diversity tropes.

Last I checked, Disney Wars used the same walkers, too. TLJ had the same AT-AT designed just souped-up, firing on Luke.

Ironically, a lot of nerds in the 1970s shit all over Star Wars because how bad the science & engineering was. IIRC I knew a guy who walked out of the movie in 1977 because of how inaccurate all the space vehicle movement was.

That's ironic, considering the fact that some science fiction nerds are noticing how SW had a lot of hard sci-fi elements:

 

[Mississippi Motorboater]

So, apparently the Space Whales from Star Wars Rebels just appeared in the latest episode of Blandalorian.

I can only imagine how confusing all this stuff seeping in from Filoni's terrible animated shows must be for normie viewers watching this show.

 

[jspit2.0]

Now you are not wrong. However:

"Legged" vehicles are able to traverse more varied ground than wheeled/tracked vehicles; it makes them less likely to hit mines.
As we saw in other properties, the AT-ATs had to be dropped outside the anti-orbital shield and presumably there was only one reasonable approach to the generator.

And really it was an attempt to translate a water-navy landing using space ships instead of warships, and when you start thinking about things the translation doesn't map 1:1.

Its a warping of logic to fit the needs of cool, but its not as much a warping as a lot of spergs like to try to make it out to be.

But they were pretty easy to knock over. Presumably, they would have noticed that. You could probably come up with some justification for space trains or whatever. Or why Star Destroyers fly in formations that just so happen to make it easy to film Space Battle of Midway. Etc.

Point is, don't overthink that kind of shit - Star Wars has never had technology & military advisers ensuring authenticity and realism.

Not really. You need military grade snow speeders to fly around them multiple times while not getting shot down. Obviously a bunch of losers on skiffs aren't gonna be able to handle them.


And yes, when I'm watching a space man with lasers in a fist fight, I will ask why the hell he's fighting and not shooting them or why the empire uses shitty trucks.

But this sounds kindof like defenses of the Last Jedi bombers.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

My problem with the AT-AT is the coverage is limited to the head. In addition, it's also VERY slow to turn, so it's very easy to flank and get behind. Its main defense is that its 90% armor so it doesn't matter that it got shot a million times. In comparison, the AT-TE has a BFG as its primary weapon and that has 360 coverage and it's lower to the ground so it can't be tripped. it is objectively the better mobile artillery platform in every way except armor.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

Oh no (lol)!

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

My problem with the AT-AT is the coverage is limited to the head. In addition, it's also VERY slow to turn, so it's very easy to flank and get behind. Its main defense is that its 90% armor so it doesn't matter that it got shot a million times. In comparison, the AT-TE has a BFG as its primary weapon and that has 360 coverage and it's lower to the ground so it can't be tripped. it is objectively the better mobile artillery platform in every way except armor.

Speeders got shot down assuming that. Plus, the thick armor means that most attacks would barely work. Unlike the AT-TE, which can attack all sides, but the armor is weak enough for one lone rocket man to take them down.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Speeders got shot down assuming that. Plus, the thick armor means that most attacks would barely work. Unlike the AT-TE, which can attack all sides, but the armor is weak enough for one lone rocket man to take them down.

The AT-AT had combined arms and AT-STs to cover their flanks. It's still a pain in the butt to make them turn into a different direction.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

The AT-AT had combined arms and AT-STs to cover their flanks. It's still a pain in the butt to make them turn into a different direction.

Not in anything I've seen or played. They can turn and walk in a different direction just fine.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Not in anything I've seen or played. They can turn and walk in a different direction just fine.

I remember trying to drive them in OG Batttlefront II and they were a pain to turn and it's only because the map has them face the right way are they viable.

 

[Kerr Avon]

you're stuck with a bare handful of things that aren't woke garbage, like the DCEU

Thanks for proving you've watched fuck all of the DCEU

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

I remember trying to drive them in OG Batttlefront II and they were a pain to turn and it's only because the map has them face the right way are they viable.

I played that game recently, and I never found it hard to make them turn. It's the same as the AT-TE.

Thanks for proving you've watched fuck all of the DCEU

Last I checked, the main entries like Man of Steel, BvS, and the Snyder cut of the Justice League aren't woke. Dark, moody, depressing, yes. But not woke.

 

[Creep3r]

nah just curious

They're a recurring theme in SF*, especially Star Trek with the Organians and the Q as notable examples, so I was curious if they're in SW too. Like I thought maybe there's some "pure Force beings" or something. Anyway thanks for the post.

*Category:Energy Beings | Alien Species | Fandom (it's Fandom so adblock is advised)

JFC Fandom/f.Wikia is worse off than I remembered.

So, apparently the Space Whales from Star Wars Rebels just appeared in the latest episode of Blandalorian.

I can only imagine how confusing all this stuff seeping in from Filoni's terrible animated shows must be for normie viewers watching this show.

I'm not surprised. Filoni has to shove his OCs into everything even if they serve no purpose other than to be cameowank to make the universe feel smaller and satisfy his desire to be recognized as the wolf-god of Star Wars. And judging from a quick google search, the space whales, like many of his retcons, have to become a central part of the setting's tapestry by making them a permanent part of hyperspace travel despite nothing like these things ever showing up in any instance of hyperspace travel in the first +30 years of this franchise's existence.

 

[Sneed F91]

Spent this Saturday afternoon watching my favorite Star Wars movies: The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi. They're still kino. Can't wait to post about them on reddit!

Ironically, a lot of nerds in the 1970s shit all over Star Wars because how bad the science & engineering was. IIRC I knew a guy who walked out of the movie in 1977 because of how inaccurate all the space vehicle movement was.

LMAO what a dumbass. Star Wars was never hard sci-fi like 2001 or more serious like Star Trek. The fantastical elements really seem to throw sci-fi nerds off when I think that's what makes it kind of unique.

So, apparently the Space Whales from Star Wars Rebels just appeared in the latest episode of Blandalorian.

I can only imagine how confusing all this stuff seeping in from Filoni's terrible animated shows must be for normie viewers watching this show.

I stopped caring when Ahsoka and that Duros cowboy prick showed up last season. If you haven't seen the entirety of Filoni Wars you can get fucked according to Dave.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

LMAO what a dumbass. Star Wars was never hard sci-fi like 2001 or more serious like Star Trek. The fantastical elements really seem to throw sci-fi nerds off when I think that's what makes it kind of unique.

Star Trek is far more fantastical than Star Wars. At least SW tech is easy to understand instead of relying on random technobabble, and despite all his power, the Emperor can still be killed by having someone kick his ass or dunk him in a reactor, as opposed to Q literally being Picard's Fairy Godmother.

I stopped caring when Ahsoka and that Duros cowboy prick showed up last season. If you haven't seen the entirety of Filoni Wars you can get fucked according to Dave.

Filoniverse shows are made for TCW fans. What did you expect?

 

[Oilspill Battery]

Pedro Pascal Is No Longer "THE Mandalorian" In 'Star Wars' - Inside t…

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Pedro Pascal Is No Longer “THE Mandalorian” In ‘Star Wars’

tl;dr Bo Katan is going to be the mandalorian going forward.

I see disney is determined to kill the show. If this is true I'm actually done with the mandalorian. I don't care about this bitch and her shitty quest to play queen or whatever, I just want space cowboys.

 

[Uranus Pink]

Aside from her massive forehead and the permanently in place headband what does Bo Katen have to be the protagonist of anything?

 

[starborn427614]

Pedro Pascal Is No Longer "THE Mandalorian" In 'Star Wars' - Inside t…

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tl;dr Bo Katan is going to be the mandalorian going forward.

I see disney is determined to kill the show. If this is true I'm actually done with the mandalorian. I don't care about this bitch and her shitty quest to play queen or whatever, I just want space cowboys.

Still don't buy this. Din's the one with the darksaber and most Mandos bend the knee to the one who wields it. Bo will have to address this if she wants to be THE Mandolorian and it's for this reason I can only she her being a deuteragonist at best.

 

[Mississippi Motorboater]

So, worst case scenario, the show is going to go from a meandering, aimless, formulaic, no-plot-having, devoid-of-stakes, monster-of-the-week side quest series...to a meandering, aimless, formulaic, no-plot-having, devoid-of-stakes, monster-of-the-week side quest series, but with a different main character.

Oh, no, what a downgrade. My heart weeps.

 

[Gondolindrim]

Aside from her massive forehead and the permanently in place headband what does Bo Katen have to be the protagonist of anything?

Not much. Her character is fucking schizophrenic considering how all over the place her belief system is. Also she's a massive hypocrite so I imagine that actually rooting for her is going to be a crapshoot as time goes on.

Remember; she was conceptualized as the "new Boba Fett" except hot and female. (Which is why they got the most shapeless and bland actress they could find to play her in live action I guess.)

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tl;dr Bo Katan is going to be the mandalorian going forward.

I see disney is determined to kill the show. If this is true I'm actually done with the mandalorian. I don't care about this bitch and her shitty quest to play queen or whatever, I just want space cowboys.

I'm not even going to pretend to be shocked because this was clearly the plan all along. Bo-Katan is one of Filoni's most favorite of waifus, aside from dear Ahsoka anyway. That's why she survived three (3) different shows without a scratch and has joined up with the good guys multiple times, so they can quietly and convincingly make her the protagonist of Mando.