Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

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Rumor is the Ukraine is planning to throw around 80,000 troops (including NATO-trained soldiers) with NATO weaponry at Artemovsk. Since it's snowing again I have no idea when or how, especially if the latest Wunderwaffen is still in transit. Also no idea where these 80k troops are coming from.

Yeah, no idea. Though it seems things are in motion, with this and the cargo planes. I mean who knows, an offensive might work. Seems like moving 80k troops will be pretty detectable.
 
Read this piece recently.

A guy who claims to be a naturalized citizen of the DPR doomsaying about the potentials of a Ukranian offensive and potential malfeasance from the higher-ups in preparing for the defense. Some of it just seems like panicked thinking, but he's not wrong in pointing out that the agonizing pace of territorial gains puts their margin for retreat without incredible sacrifices to next to nothing.
 
Possible Happening Alert (just observation, no news published about this):

Abruptly, in the last ~40 hours, the Russian government has sent a significant fleet of cargo aircraft in quick succession to Hangzhou, China. This includes (at a minimum, ATIS-B transponders got turned off by most of them at some point)
  • 9+ Il-76s
  • 5+ Tu-204s (freighter)
  • 1 An-124
Registration has varied between them as 'Rossiya - Special Flight Squadron' (ICAO:RSD) or between big state-contracted cargo airlines Aviastar-TU & Volga-Dnepr Airlines, who've filled a similar role in this war as a transporter to Kalitta Air has on the US side, being the cargo airline flying all Ukraine aid from the US to Rzeszów, Poland.

These are all big cargo aircraft, the Il-76s specifically being a military heavy machinery transport aircraft. None of these planes had visited China at any point in the last year; this is an explosion of activity. All planes began return flights to Russia within 12h.

What's the purpose for the Russian government to send all these heavy cargo planes to China, and return to Russia on the same day?

A couple screenshots from a few minutes ago; unfortunately don't have any from earlier over the past 2 days. Bonus, a Tu-204 used for transporting Russian govt. members currently heading into Belarus from Moscow.
Probably loaded down with a bunch of these:
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Rumor is the Ukraine is planning to throw around 80,000 troops (including NATO-trained soldiers) with NATO weaponry at Artemovsk. Since it's snowing again I have no idea when or how, especially if the latest Wunderwaffen is still in transit. Also no idea where these 80k troops are coming from.
These niggers need to stop copying us with that oversharing of military movements/planning on social media and the news niggers.
The worst that's going to come of this is that Russia has a massive surplus of arms because the call for a Spring offensive was just a troll to get Russia to spend money it may or may not have.
 
At this rate, Wagner Group PMC units may capture all of Central Bakhmut within a week, with West Bakhmut being the main battleground that will decide the fate of the city and thus the Invasion. This will probably be the area where Ukraine will begin its long-awaited counter-offensive around Bakhmut, in which it will assault the city and its flanks that surround it. If this counter-offensive fail, Ukraine will lose Bakhmut and thus, Zelensky stating that Ukraine has lost the war and will be forced to make compromises with Putin.
Don't put too much trust into what the kike midget says. This is from yesterday:
Ukraine will definitely liberate all the territories occupied by Russia, and the aggressor troops that will not leave will be destroyed. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said this at a press conference in the village of Yagodnoye, Chernihiv region, on April 3, according to Ukrinform. He did not name the exact timing of the start of the spring offensive, but said that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are "ready for absolutely concrete things."

"We are preparing to be strong in battle and to de-occupy our land. I won't talk about specific things because we can't let the terrorists from Russia prepare for our methods and steps to de-occupy. But we will, and they should know that. They still have time to leave, otherwise we will destroy them," the president stressed.

Right. Sure. Uh-hu. You don't say.

Ukraine is the one to talk:
Davilov told The Times: 'China is a big country and will be a mighty rival to the Anglo-Saxon world. Now it's the owner of Russia. Russia will no longer undertake any important action without them. Russia fully lost its sovereignty. That's a fact.'
 
My Russian friends, mostly millennials
Is this in US/somewhere in the west?

Most I've met in the west are libshit fifth column types and I can stomach about 5 minutes of conversation with them before I start to feel nauseous. These people are not representative of average Russians, they are the dregs of society that scurried away like rats to other countries. Many are the offspring of thieving parents who are butt blasted they can't rob the country blind like they did in the 90s.
 
I can't even imagine this spring offensive now. I really feel bad for the grunts on the ground. Russia has had advanced warning of this offensive for a long time, where it might occur and time to shore up defenses. I would NOT want to be part of this offensive.

Russia isn't even moving at all in anticipation for the offensive. It might never come at this rate, and I hope for the Ukrainians it doesn't, because going at entrenched Russian positions after exhausting so much at Bakhmut...christ.
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Rumor is the Ukraine is planning to throw around 80,000 troops (including NATO-trained soldiers) with NATO weaponry at Artemovsk. Since it's snowing again I have no idea when or how, especially if the latest Wunderwaffen is still in transit. Also no idea where these 80k troops are coming from.
Might use HL's source

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My only worry regarding this shit is that the russian leadership shows it's ineptitude again and somehow the hohols manage a breakthroug, dragging on this shitshow even longer (not to mention the insufferable smugposting such an event would trigger from the tards in the containment thread)
 
Little off topic but is Navalny really a major player in Russian politics? He was shilled that way so I just assumed he is some literal who journos attacking corruption. The way glowies talk about him sold me on the idea he is a massive patsy and would be as bad as Yeltsin was, especially since they're shilling his family now to remind people he exists.
He used to be on the good position but somewhere after 2018 when his presidential campaign failed he basically started crawling into irrelevance. His last few investigations were at best kinda dubious and partially based on "trust me bro" sources.
When poisoning occurred his organization were also belching out contradicting versions of what actually happened. For example they shifted from "poisoned tea" to "they somehow put novichok in Alexey's underwear".
His character is fake and gay, because it was completely remade to be maximum appeal to zoomers and millenials. People who used to visit his LiveJournal and remember his past political antics remember him being rude and really into Blood and Soil stuff, unlike UwU Good Honest Guy personality he wears nowdays. He also likes to reminds that he is hip with the kids and redditors by mentioning he watches Rick and Morty, play PUBG and Call of Duty Mobile, and of course he also makes those shitty Harry Potter comparisons, even as he is tweeting from prison.
After Navalny got in jail he crew went full grift mode and got progressively worse in that department. Up untill 2022 they were in a pretty comfy positions getting paid thousands of bitcoins by glowies to sperg about Putin online while also openly e-begging. It became so bad people started meeming on Navalny's right hand man, Leonid Volkov, for trying to suck liberal kiddies dry.
When the war started nothing changed, only that they relocated their asses out of RF and got declared a forbidden organization in the country. And now there's a little bit of infighting and power shifts because I guess they are slowly running out of shekels and there's also a major conflict of interests.
 
Is this in US/somewhere in the west?

Most I've met in the west are libshit fifth column types and I can stomach about 5 minutes of conversation with them before I start to feel nauseous. These people are not representative of average Russians, they are the dregs of society that scurried away like rats to other countries. Many are the offspring of thieving parents who are butt blasted they can't rob the country blind like they did in the 90s.
In China, they're from Moscow and outlying areas mostly. English teachers, if you can believe it. I'm generally more pro-Russia than them, because I didn't have to live in Putin's Russia I think. He's like the face of the Big Cop that makes life hard for young people, from what I've gathered. One's from Dagestan (but is half slav), one from Moscow, one from a suburb near Moscow. All 3 managed to dodge compulsory military service, so they're not really true patriots, and they are ambivalent to their homeland in a lot of ways. But they're hard working, fun-loving, decent people. One of them I respect in particular, just for being a really decent man with a good heart who is trying to figure out what he wants and how he can reconcile that with supporting his parents and sister back in Russia. 90s kids, grew up as things were getting better, but remember how bad things could be. One's really resentful, cause his dad is from Riga, and can never return or visit the graves of his parents now. At the same time, he knows enough Ukrainians to know that maybe the options for Russia were limited. There's a couple of their friends I know, nice people, but didn't talk about politics with them, don't know them as well. They're raising their kids in China, for what that's worth. They're pretty normal millennials, just came to China for the (much much much) better money.
 
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Might use HL's source

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My only worry regarding this shit is that the russian leadership shows it's ineptitude again and somehow the hohols manage a breakthroug, dragging on this shitshow even longer (not to mention the insufferable smugposting such an event would trigger from the tards in the containment thread)
I dont think that this "offensive" will leave any mark on the russian forces. They simply do not have enough hard hitting power to get through - artillery, tanks, experienced infantry. At most they could reach first line of defense, get bogged down and eventually retreat. Remember last time they tried assaulting kherson? Kilometer long convoys of ambulances and no changes on the frontline.
 
I dont think that this "offensive" will leave any mark on the russian forces. They simply do not have enough hard hitting power to get through - artillery, tanks, experienced infantry. At most they could reach first line of defense, get bogged down and eventually retreat. Remember last time they tried assaulting kherson? Kilometer long convoys of ambulances and no changes on the frontline.
I heard stories that they pulled back and recuperated their more competent forces while the freshly conscripted meat saturated the grinder in bakhmut.
We'll see soon enough.

It would be hillarious if a few air strikes / missile strikes / arty hit these gathering grounds and the great Ukrainian counteroffensive would end before it began.
 
That's a crazy amount and nearly half their 200k reserve.
They don't have any options but to achieve a flashy victory, support in the west has all but evaporated if my friends there are to be believed. Throwing men at a problem has proven time and again to be tactically viable, and in this case the value is twofold. First, pushing Russian troops out of Artyomovsk gives him a victory to parade before the western public, who are increasibly realising that they're spending enormous amounts of money to accomplish nothing. Second, gruesome videos of all the casualties such an offensive would produce will be used to make "look how evil russkies are!" propaganda, which the bloodthirsty westoid savages love.
 
Putin's Russia I think. He's like the face of the Big Cop that makes life hard for young people
Aye, he's seen as the big bad for a lot of people whether true or not. I'm constantly shocked at how little even Russians understand about their own system. Like blaming Putin because their local road in bumfuck nowhere Siberia has potholes. That's the remit of your local administration and they have a separate budget for that. You keep voting in the same useless mayor/governor who never gets anything done and pisses away the money he's been allocated but it's actually the federal government's fault?

I'm sure these people have legitimate grievances but I'm always sceptical of people that try to blame all of their ills on Putin.
 
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