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And that's why I blame Obama for shitting all over my commieblock's landing.
Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion
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Just blatantly wrong here; retarded, even. IDK why people in this thread (nowhere else) have been saying this as endlessly more weapons and money are committed to UA by western countries. Escalation by the west continues to exponentially grow and shows zero signs of slowing down.
"Holy shit guys, the west is giving another $6 gorillion in weapons to Ukraine, incl. depleted uranium rounds, and the ICC has just indicted Putin -- the west is totally gonna pull funding for Ukraine any day now, they want this war to be over" - retards
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how many modern tanks have been delivered? 14 from the UK and a couple of leopard 2s from europe? nothing new sicne those taks were promissed.
Shells are running out all over the western world, NATO cant deliver any more modern Artillery systems or Rocketlaunchers, etc...
Those DU rounds were send because the UK send 14 of their little retard tanks with their 1960s rifled gun and the ICC is a freaking joke,
The west will stop sending weapons the moment the old stuff from the warehouses is gone. nobody is willing to invest good money to buy new weapons and send them to ukraine,.
Halmaz
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Same here in Hungary.
"Oh, I dropped my favorite mug! Damn you Orbaaaaaan!" (Soros, or Gyurcsany, if you are leaning right)
I believe this line of thinking could be attributed to communist background. If you are conditioned to praise a dear leader for everything good, it is only natural to blame him for everything bad.
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Everyone is bored of Ukraine and back on sustainability or some shit now. But the MIC definitely isn't tired of it...everybody in that sphere is totally on board with getting a bucket of money from Uncle Sam to drop more American machinery somewhere where Putin can blow it up.
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I'm not taking sides in this disagreement but I think it's easy to hear Germany or Italy proclaim for the Xth time that they have nothing more to give and kind of accept that. Especially if you miss the part 3 days later where they capitulate. Then again their received "assistance" isn't always a sign of support. "hey bro, takes these 13 junk ass parts planes off my hands... In the spirit of friendship".
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Read this piece recently.
THE BAKMUT DIVERSION AND THE DONBAS DEFENSE – A VIEW FROM DONETSK | The Greanville Post
RUSSELL BENTLEY—If a UAF/NATO assault force is able to advance a mere 15 Km (9 miles) forward from their present positions on the city limits of Donetsk/Makeevka and Gorlovka, they will literally be in the center of these cities, surrounded by well over a million Russian civilian human shields...www.greanvillepost.com
A guy who claims to be a naturalized citizen of the DPR doomsaying about the potentials of a Ukranian offensive and potential malfeasance from the higher-ups in preparing for the defense. Some of it just seems like panicked thinking, but he's not wrong in pointing out that the agonizing pace of territorial gains puts their margin for retreat without incredible sacrifices to next to nothing.
Great read. He's completely right, especially regarding the railway bridges. This has been a big talking point for close to a year amongst Russian war correspondents - RUS could strike the 12 Dneiper rail bridges and thereby cut off everything from the west -- the river is far too wide for pontoon bridges; the only way to transport vehicles (incl. tanks) would be on small barges. However, Russia refuses to do even this. They also got cucked on the grain deal and did jack shit about it, still to this day freely allowing UA ships filled with
Still mind-boggling to me how a PMC can not only hold its territory, but make advances while fighting the highest concentration of UA troops and artillery on the entire front while the Russian Armed Forces themselves can barely hold territory in the middle of nowhere, never advancing.
The RU MOD higher-ups fuck up again and again and still have never been replaced. Prigozhin and 2014 veterans should be leading the whole operation, not office-job bureaucrats in Moscow who got their jobs sucking the boss's dick.
Kill Sergei Shoigu. Behead Sergei Shoigu. Roundhouse kick Sergei Shoigu into the concrete. Slam dunk baby Sergei Shoigu into the trashcan. Crucify filthy Sergei Shoigu. Defecate in Sergei Shoigu's food. Launch Sergei Shoigu into the sun. Stir fry Sergei Shoigu in a wok. Toss Sergei Shoigu into active volcanoes. Urinate into Sergei Shoigu's gas tank. Judo throw Sergei Shoigu into a wood chipper. Twist Sergei Shoigu's head off. Report Sergei Shoigu to the IRS. Karate chop Sergei Shoigu in half. Curb stomp pregnant Sergei Shoigu. Trap Sergei Shoigu in quicksand. Crush Sergei Shoigu in the trash compactor. Liquefy Sergei Shoigu in a vat of acid. Eat Sergei Shoigu. Dissect Sergei Shoigu. Exterminate Sergei Shoigu in the gas chamber. Stomp Sergei Shoigu's skull with steel toed boots. Cremate Sergei Shoigu in the oven. Lobotomize Sergei Shoigu. Mandatory abortions for Sergei Shoigu. Grind Sergei Shoigu fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown Sergei Shoigu in fried chicken grease. Vaporize Sergei Shoigu with a ray gun. Kick old Sergei Shoigu down the stairs. Feed Sergei Shoigu to alligators. Slice Sergei Shoigu with a katana.
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The older liberals know fully well Putin was and still is partially a front man. And that people behind him have been mismanaging the country. Never mind that this shit exploded, came to be in the 90's under liberals. Never mind that governors and mayors in a lot of places are liberal. They just loved to memory block stuff.
Or the fact that economic liberal wing pretty much been in charge of building the Russian economy since recently really. (And have done a piss poor job) Though it mostly guys in the Medvedevs camp now. Who are also fairly liberal(Whom actually did shit)
The younger generation of liberals don't know shit though and frankly live in another dimension.
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"by western countries"
Yeah, the governments continue throwing good money after bad, but the people are apparently getting fed up with it (I don't have any first hand information, obviously), and with the US election cycle ramping up, even politicians directly profiteering off of Ukraine like Biden are probably going to have to shut up about it. Even the dumbest westoid liberal imaginable is going to think twice about "6 billion dollars worth of ammunition to be given to the
Absolutely. I think political considerations are going to (eventually) affect that though.
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Everyone on this site (including me at the time) said this same shit about COVID lockdowns. You're not blackpilled enough about how stupid westerners are. LMAO at thinking even woke liberals/the media will stop supporting UA when their organic eggs are $3 more -- yeah ok bud, lemme know when they turn on BLM and support for 'justice reform' when their own cities get burned down and replaced by free-roaming criminals, niggers, and the drug-addicted homeless.
Western governments don't care whatsoever what the people think anyway; popular opinion literally doesn't affect what policies are implemented whatsoever in the modern day. Princeton 2012 etc
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That farmland will be contaminated with uranium. And the food grown from it will probably be shipped abroad.
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Alright then.
I lived in the UK for almost a year, I'm not entirely unfamiliar with what the west is like. I guess I just don't like to think that lowly of anyone. "Underestimating your opponent is a sure path to defeat".
No idea what that is. Some web searches suggests a university sports team? I do know that BLM and justice reform refers to when some cities decided that the appropriate response to race riots was to disband the police force, but as far as I know those policies were reversed quickly once the obvious happened.
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I doubt it's really 80,000 fighting men given all the ones they fed into Bakhmut.
If true, we're looking at the THIRD iteration of the Ukrainian Army. Marshaling that many guys won't go unnoticed. Maybe their counting on the Russians having poor ISR capabilities?
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The enightened Western reddits often accuse me of "reverse cargo cult" mentality, i. e. "just because your Russian government is authoritarian shit, you think all of the world governments are the same and cannot comprehend how well MUH DEMOCRACY works in any land that isn't your Mordor".
I still stick to my guns though. American and European establishment couldn't care less about what their people want or how much they pay for the eggs, the ruling caste does at it pleases, and if any reshuffling in the corridors of power takes place, it happens because of the struggle between the power players and not because muh voters.
Cases in point - Sleepy Joe's fortified elections, Macron's retirement age protests, the honking in Canada, etc.
Yes, you wlll be paying three or even ten times more for the eggs than you did under Trump. No, it will not stop Joe from sending another bajillion dollar aid package to Ukraine and maybe your firstborn later this year after he institutes the draft to protect Our Democracy(tm) and starts jailing draft dodgers even if he has to release convincted criminals to make more room in America's overloaded penitentiary system. For Heaven's sake, a tranny just gunned down a bunch of elementary schoolers, Joe then lionized the trans movement in his speech and the Americans swallowed that load and asked for more.
Change my mind.
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Russia inspects all the ships before launch. All four parties do. It's in Russia's interest to maintain the BSGI at least as a sign of goodwill towards third countries. It disrupts propaganda on the international stage when the Russkies still care about poor starving children in Africa.
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Who actually died as Bucha? Wasn't that another hoax to get western gibs?
Pretty much not get the Yugoslav in the 90s treatment.
Is there a single "POOTIN IS FINISHED THIS TIME!!!!" article that doesn't source Ukrainian Intel copium anymore? With all these spies in the Kremlin you think they would have detonated Russia's nuclear arsenal on the city by now.Right. Sure. Uh-hu. You don't say.
Collapse of Putin's Russia has begun, Ukraine official predicts
Oleksiy Danilov, the secretary of Ukraine's National Security and Defense Council, said the West must be on high alert, having failed to be ready for the collapse of the Soviet Union.www.dailymail.co.uk
No point trying to. To redditors, muh democracy is all that matters no matter how nebulous the term is. Most people just hear the words democracy and think freedom and shit, and the Western elite know that. If you call the US non-democratic to a majority of people you'll get "You just hate the government cause it's run by people you hate." or "Ummm actually we are a federal republic."
It's why I'm so burned out by politics, people care about labels so much that they think ideology must be tied to the supposed functions of said ideology.
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So here's how Democrat politics work in the USA. Their main demos are:
- Single, college-educated white women, who vote for them based on social media updoot campaigns. Black Lives Matter, Abolish ICE, etc, has huge appeal with this demo, and the Dems are killing it.
- Blacks. Blacks do not change their vote. Even when Democrats were the party of segregation, blacks voted D+30. They either show up, or don't, and since they're lazy, it's usually "don't." GOTV efforts, ballot harvesting & plain old fraud are key to getting the black vote out.
- Coastal libs, who are always rich, no matter how bad or good things get, and vote based on whatever's considered sophisticated and urbane. That hasn't been the Republicans since the Bush era.
- Hispanics, who are trending slightly less blue lately, but the blue ones primarily vote for welfare and not deporting your cousin, who came here illegally.
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Ukrainian forces slaughtered a bunch of civilians for having Russian MREs. Then they begged for more gibs.
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It's far from impossible. NATO could probably front a quarter of that in mercenaries. Ukraine has been deadly fucking serious about marshalling men, to the point of absurdity.
The Russians likely know, but how prepared they are is a matter to be seen. They are striking every concentration of men near the front or at particular places, but how effective this is has yet to be seen. There are a lot of salients they could strike at, the Bakhmut front would collapse and a lot of Russia's best soldiers would die if they concentrated at Bakhmut. Likely any front would collapse with 80 thousand men massed, it has yet to be seen if Russia will actually use their full military capacity to stop a shock fist that could break their defense lines apart. They could, but will they? Any advance into territory currently held by Russia is ultimately just pushing into a cauldron--the West cannot afford nor produce more than spikes in combat intensity. Based on the daily artillery strikes into Russian held territory and civilian structures, the military and civilian governments in Russia are basically indifferent to civilian casualties compared to say, America.
One thing that actually makes watching this war of attrition interesting to me is the knife's edge that Russia is holding the war at. I've said before, but the question isn't how much of Ukraine they'll get, but when, and for how much. Russia has chosen, seemingly as its timetable, "after NATO is pushed past its breaking point" and as far as cost goes, "for as little cash and as few soldiers as possible." To that end, you see rear echelons with T-55s. Missile strikes to harass and cripple but not completely disable civilian life. You see mobilizations at less than half of what is speculated might be necessary to decisively break the UAF. You see no attempt to move to a wartime economy, to starve their enemies of either food or energy, both of which are received at Russia's mercy. You see no attempt to purge military leadership of the people who produced multiple, humiliating disasters that have damaged the basic credibility of Russia's advantages in attrition warfare, artillery and air superiority, standoff weapons superiority, and logistics. They're taking slow and cheap, which has certain risks that aren't communicated well by pro-Russian milbloggers on telegram, and which get exaggerated by ukie tards high on the idiotic idea that an extra tank battalion will somehow convince the current iteration of Russia's government to just submit to Nuremberg-esque show trials and give up wealth, power, and long-term security.