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The fact there is a non-zero chance that Trump might get a Epstein treatment is terrifying. Not just because of the harm it would do to the resistance to globalism but also because it would ensure a civil war down the line.
"Oopsie doodles, looks like Trump killed himself in the same cell we held Epstein in. What are the odds of... wait, why are there massive lines in front of the banks? And what do you mean farmers and truckers that should be delivering food are blocking off the highways?"
 
In addition, our CIA is infamous for instigating color revolutions across the globe. As US international influence wanes, there’s a chance Russia and China will consider turnabout to be fair play. I’m pretty sure Russia has already stated that they’ll support a Texan succession. I also think China is gearing up for a “special military operation” of their own in Taiwan - as our global holdings collapse, our adversaries become bolder in their meddling. Their meddling will begin to counter the FBI’s own domestic meddling and a dissident figure has more of a chance to rise.
Here's the issue with that: Hasn't China been seen as being Biden's puppetmaster behind the scenes? If anything, China would work to CRUSH a revolution in the US. Also, have you heard of the Russia/China partnership? What are the odds Russia won't help because they have become China's bitch in Xi's attempt to become the shadow emperor of the world?
3) A figure or a common cause to rally around

While point 1 is definitely met, we don’t yet have enough of point 2 for the sheep to seriously consider violent action. I also don’t think we have a viable figurehead or cause to rally around. Trump is too old and too much of a boomer to fit the bill. The swamp is definitely working overtime to prevent a viable figurehead from materializing though - if they go full retard and assassinate Trump, turning him into a martyr may do the trick.
Except violent action probab;y won't happen because 1. Glowing accustions and 2. Anyone on the right who COULD or WOULD fight feel they have too much to lose and won't die for the cause. Meanwhile, the left has Antifa, activists who made their professional lives their activism and Twitter usage, and finally, ways to raise funds that pretty much everyone will throw into the money pot hand over fist. What does the right, let alone MAGA, have in comparison?
All of this is nothing than a pretense to get trump in new york for them to kill him. The case is such a joke, new york doesn't even have jurisdiction. Their gonna whack Trump like they did Epstein. I hope not, but that's what all this looks like to me.
I highly doubt that because they know that even putting him in the hospital will make him look like a martyr. Also, the way Epstein died needed to work perfectly if you believe he was taken out. A potential Trump whacking has the issue of every potential individual who'd do the deed going off about it for the clout and media deals.
It's why we are headed for a world of pain and likely civil war/divorce. The two sides of that neo-marxist progressive/Neo Liberal and Conservative/ Classical liberal. One values forced consensus, equity and power. The other values liberty both political and individual, stability and the rule of law. These two values are inherently incompatible and cannot run simultaneously. The best play for the Republicans right now is to escalate symmetrically. They need to put Democrats in a position where they are forced to play their hand. If the Democrats really want a civil war then it was inevitable, if the Democrats are just pushing the boundaries then it will lead to de-escalation. The latter has a better than 50% chance of being the case.

A lot of people of aware of the Cuban missile crisis but fail to get it's real lesson. That is, sometimes you've got to push things to the brink for a longer, more stable peace to come about. It was the "closest" we've ever been to nuclear Armageddon and it led to the establishment of the famous red phone. That simple red phone provided a direct and immediate line between the Kremlin and White House it also represented a softer period in international relations known as Detente.
Only issue with that: nobody in MAGA has enough real power to force that brink push. And the current GOP looks to be just fine going along with the Democrat to destroy the MAGA threat to their kingdoms.
I don't think Trump has it in him to go that far though, but I can see him paving the way for someone willing.
You mean like Kari Lake?
but also because it would ensure a civil war down the line.

"Oopsie doodles, looks like Trump killed himself in the same cell we held Epstein in. What are the odds of... wait, why are there massive lines in front of the banks? And what do you mean farmers and truckers that should be delivering food are blocking off the highways?"
I highly doubt anything will happen because the right wing are petrified of literally any form of activism at this point. 1/6 alone is just proof that they'll dismiss anything spicy will be seen as plants and nothing will get anywhere.

Probably still waiting for McVeighs and Unabombers.
i'm not the person you asked, but imo Protasiewicz wins because Kelly is a weak candidate and the WI republicans have dragged their feet on resolving the abortion issue
So expect the Thunderdome to be overcome with despair by the end of tonight. Got it.
 
Here's the issue with that: Hasn't China been seen as being Biden's puppetmaster behind the scenes? If anything, China would work to CRUSH a revolution in the US. Also, have you heard of the Russia/China partnership?

China would do whatever hurts the USA the most for the longest time to eliminate their rival. So they would pivot to overtly supporting the crackdown on rebels while covertly funding them.

"Oopsie doodles, looks like Trump killed himself in the same cell we held Epstein in. What are the odds of... wait, why are there massive lines in front of the banks? And what do you mean farmers and truckers that should be delivering food are blocking off the highways?"
I highly doubt anything will happen because the right wing are petrified of literally any form of activism at this point. 1/6 alone is just proof that they'll dismiss anything spicy will be seen as plants and nothing will get anywhere.

Probably still waiting for McVeighs and Unabombers.

I have touched on this point before here, but the Right Wing especially in the USA does things quite differently from how the left or even euro Right does. TPTB are absolutely sure that they are gonna see militias trying to storm state capitols and McVeighs dropping bombs, and they are counting on it to start a counter campaign of their won to shut it all down. But that isn't really how the right does things and especially not after Jan 6th.

The rebellion they might get is people pulling their money out of the banks and refusing to interact with "feds" at all. They will refuse to pozload my negholep (edit: LMAO what a word filter holy shit), and instead stay the fuck away. Why bother trying to firebomb NYC when their own feral criminals roaming the streets are gonna do it? Who is gonna bother trying to leave their home and take potshots at some retarded judge in D.C. for all the rewards of being killed by some Antichrist golem as another NPC judge replaces him? I have crops to raise.

The globalists want a mighty dragon to fight as a showdown of destiny. What they are gonna get is a long march through a swamp, slashing innefectively against fetid waters to strike at leeches and eels and desperatly warding off crocodiles for no reward.
 
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"Oopsie doodles, looks like Trump killed himself in the same cell we held Epstein in. What are the odds of... wait, why are there massive lines in front of the banks? And what do you mean farmers and truckers that should be delivering food are blocking off the highways?"
So basically just the Trucker Convoy. Except Justin Trudeau showed how to crush: stop the access to money. And I'm willing to bet the US knows how to stop a bank run. And then the feds roll in. Hell, they can just crush this the same way Occupy was crushed. And they'll have tons of leftists willing to help.
 
So basically just the Trucker Convoy. Except Justin Trudeau showed how to crush: stop the access to money. And I'm willing to bet the US knows how to stop a bank run. And then the feds roll in. Hell, they can just crush this the same way Occupy was crushed. And they'll have tons of leftists willing to help.
Yeah expect America tried that with Russia and it backfired and might now lead to the death of US hegemony. If they keep doing shit like that it can cause a bank-run which can easily collapse an economy. So it's basically playing Russian roulette with your own economy to look tough when people call you out for stomping an old lady's heads in.
 
i'm not the person you asked, but imo Protasiewicz wins because Kelly is a weak candidate and the WI republicans have dragged their feet on resolving the abortion issue
And what does that mean long-term for the 2024 election? Sounds like shit is about to get bad in Wisconsin.
 
Yeah expect America tried that with Russia and it backfired and might now lead to the death of US hegemony. If they keep doing shit like that it can cause a bank-run which can easily collapse an economy. So it's basically playing Russian roulette with your own economy to look tough when people call you out for stomping an old lady's heads in.
Russia spent 8 years building up a backup financial system that does not rely on SWIFT though. And has the support of BRICS countries, however meager. Your rebel yahoos are not going to have either unless they actually switch to bitcoin, but the US government is already on its way to regulating this inconvenient loophole.
 
You mean like Kari Lake?
She has fight in her and I definitely respect that, but no, she has too much to lose and she's still a woman, even at her most mama bear, her instincts will be to protect her own, not utterly destroy the opposition.

You need somebldy that has been fucked by the system, that either has nothing else to lose or so much rage that he gives 0 shits and that won't stop punching no matter how much the opposition begs. Basically some unknown fucker that got jailed on jan 6th would be my wildcard.
 
Russia spent 8 years building up a backup financial system that does not rely on SWIFT though. And has the support of BRICS countries, however meager. Your rebel yahoos are not going to have either unless they actually switch to bitcoin, but the US government is already on its way to regulating this inconvenient loophole.
the rebel yahoos come from rural areas, and this thread was very adamant that rural areas can go back to amish level over night, they're totally not dependent on money, medicine/fertilizer produced overseas or replacements for the required heavy machinery because they got horses apparently (to the point people growing up on horse farms think you can put any of them in front of a plow the whole day for weeks...).

that stupidity aside, it's not wrong that rural areas will be more self-sustaining and when shit goes down just look after themselves first. you can live without netflix and your phone, you can't live long without food. without money or money being worthless people will just copy zimbabwe which has gone back all the way to barter and IOUs - but you need something to barter first.

the other thing is that the system is and always will be weak to sabotage, because it assumes it's in the common interest to not fuck up infrastructure. neglect is still an issue if you're not dealing with outright malicious intent (even if it's just stripping wire out of streetlights to barter for food or drugs, just look at any bigger hobo-camp in liberal cities). the news of someone attacking powerstations to shut down drag queen story hour got pulled real fast for a reason.
 
You need somebldy that has been fucked by the system, that either has nothing else to lose or so much rage that he gives 0 shits and that won't stop punching no matter how much the opposition begs.
Matt Gaetz kind of fits this. He did manage to hold the House by the balls, which has stuck for the most part.
 
Matt Gaetz kind of fits this. He did manage to hold the House by the balls, which has stuck for the most part.
I also feel like they shot their shot with Gaetz. They bluffed that they had this huge fucking case against him for human trafficking and shit but how many years later and nothing? Guess they are just waiting for Gaetz to sign on the wrong line on a document.
 
It's funny to watch the dissolution of the American Hegemony in real time.

I thought it would take generations to destroy but here the Dem's are speed running it in less then a decade. With how sick American culture has become I"m all for the end coming sooner rather then later.

Hopefully the next ascendant empire learns the lessons from the fall of the US and keeps the progressive and their handlers firmly under the boot.
 
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