Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Oxyjen]

Fuck sake, wouldn’t want to be on the wrong end of that.

https://twitter.com/havoc_six/status/1643258099036241920?s=46

 

[siegemeister675]

Vatnigs over in the cope cage aren't even commenting on Finlan joining NATO. LOL, LMAO even.

 

[Ghostse]

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https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1643239181651517441

Disclose.tv on Twitter: "JUST IN - Finland has officially joined #NATO, doubling the military alliance's border with Russia." / Twitter | Ghostarchive

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Putin can't stop winning.

Vatnigs over in the cope cage aren't even commenting on Finlan joining NATO. LOL, LMAO even.

They were coping earlier about "OH NO AN ENTIRE EXTRA DIVISION OF TROOPS PUTIN IS OVER" while completely ignoring the strategic shift of St. Petersberg being 50 miles from a NATO border and the entire baltic being within range of one NATO member or another.
Not to mention the diplomatic hit of a neutral country leaving their sphere of influence forever.

Fuck sake, wouldn’t want to be on the wrong end of that.

https://twitter.com/havoc_six/status/1643258099036241920?s=46

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Archive, nigga. Archive.
Also I see the system deploying but who's launching it and the target are some "trust me, bro" level shit.

 

[Snekposter]

Kraken Regiment of the Main Directorate of Intelligence of Ukraine.

Glow in the dark SBU slavniggers, then?

Ya know it just occurred to me that in the long discussed hypothetical where a third world shitshow version of the USA tried and catastrophically failed to invade Mexico and wound up a global laughing stock for its weakness, ineptitude, and delusions of grandeur and might as its three day planned victory turned into a year long humiliation.....the US government wound up hiring Papa John to form a prison gang based paramilitary to try and augment the withered joke of the US military who then sent tens of thousands of convicts to die in agony around fucking Villa Ahumada in Chihuahua along with wasting irreplaceable quantities of armor and supplies
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But Papa John actually knows what he's doing.

Russia has a lot of tubes but they are notoriously shit and poorly maintained. I doubt barrel replacement is happening any faster than it was before the war.

Anyone else remember that BMP barrel they cut open?

Vatnigs over in the cope cage aren't even commenting on Finlan joining NATO. LOL, LMAO even.

Winter War flashbacks for sure.

And for news:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...nance-hub-romania-ukraine-weapons-2023-04-02/
https://archive.md/H6B0j

Armsmaker Rheinmetall sets up maintenance hub in Romania for Ukraine weapons

NATO is already building a forwards repair base for the stuff we've both sent and will send.

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1642902922441703436

Imagine fucking up so badly Venezuela has volunteers signing up to fight against the Birthplace of the Revolution. Of course, there's Brazilians, and we all know what happens when the snake decides to smoke:

https://mickryan.substack.com/p/the-coming-fight-will-be-different
https://archive.md/tCglT
Long article that recaps why we're likely correct in thinking Ukraine is going to go for a massive offensive come the end of the mud.

And now what you're all here for: THE MEMES

 

[Random Internet Person]

Biden Administration Announces Additional Security Assistance for Ukraine

The Defense Department announces critical new security assistance for Ukraine, including the authorization of a Presidential Drawdown of security assistance with more ammunition for U.S.-provided

www.defense.gov

https://archive.is/jWkKE

 

[Koko Jambo]

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Biden Administration Announces Additional Security Assistance for Ukraine

The Defense Department announces critical new security assistance for Ukraine, including the authorization of a Presidential Drawdown of security assistance with more ammunition for U.S.-provided

www.defense.gov

https://archive.is/jWkKE

AI/ML

 

[Snekposter]

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Biden Administration Announces Additional Security Assistance for Ukraine

The Defense Department announces critical new security assistance for Ukraine, including the authorization of a Presidential Drawdown of security assistance with more ammunition for U.S.-provided

www.defense.gov

https://archive.is/jWkKE

Unlike Presidential Drawdown, USAI is an authority under which the United States procures capabilities from industry rather than delivering equipment that is drawn down from DoD stocks. The announcement of this USAI package represents the beginning of a contracting process to provide additional capabilities to Ukraine's Armed Forces.

OOF. Big oof, considering Pact-caliber ammo is being provided under USAI. Someone's already gotten some new lines up and running, it seems. Assuming the Biden admin is telling the truth (doubtful) we're going to see a lot more fresh-build stuff coming.

 

[︎︎︎︎︎]

And as of some 10 minutes ago, Finland is now legally and technically in NATO.
Finland's first act as a member was to deliver its papers for Sweden's membership ratification.

Russia's entire war for Ukraine has now officially strategically failed, as the stated purpose of the "special operation" was to contain NATO's expansion near Russian borders.

Russia never had any coherent goals for this war. It was always about pure chudjak schizo seethe. thats why vatniks always mumble on about conspiracy bullshit or communism/anti-Americanism/colonialism because the only thing that unifies them is an inferiority complex and schizo induced contrarianism all the way up into the Kremlin.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

Russia never had any coherent goals for this war. It was always about pure chudjak schizo seethe. thats why vatniks always mumble on about conspiracy bullshit or communism/anti-Americanism/colonialism because the only thing that unifies them is an inferiority complex and schizo induced contrarianism all the way up into the Kremlin.

You mean it's not de-Satanization of the Khazar Nazi biolabs?

Their whole narrative fell apart when they pulled those fake annexation referendums. What a blunder. Or in chess notation, ??.

 

[︎︎︎︎︎]

You mean it's not de-Satanization of the Khazar Nazi biolabs?

Their whole narrative fell apart when they pulled those fake annexation referendums. What a blunder. Or in chess notation, ??.

they psy-oped themself's into oblivion. Most of their bullshit is for domestic consumption.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

Russia's main advantage in the war special military operation is Putin will keep going longer than NATO. By that I mean NATO at some point will declare enough is enough, but Putin will go until the country collapses (or he's dead). The US will not go to till implosion, and will tap out long before. I guess maybe more accurate to say Putin will risk everything Russia has over this.
Ukraine also will go until the country collapses because they have to, but they are smaller.
Russia can play the waiting game. Russians got used to Stalin, they'll get used to whatever austerity Putin puts them through.

There will never come a time where enough is enough for NATO. If there is one thing the U.S. is good for, its throwing good money after bad for decades. The U.S. was prepared to support a long insurgency, Afghanistan style, before Ukraine showed it could fight. Now that Ukraine is kicking Russian ass? America will throw money and resources at Ukraine forever.

On the contrary, its Russia that is on borrowed time. Putin might be willing to run his country into the ground, but the oligarchs and Russian leadership have a lot to lose on a blundered war. They've already lost a lot. They aren't going to let this war run on indefinitely. And even the Russian population have their limits. The Russian Revolution happened because the population got tired of the Tsar throwing everything behind the mess that was WWI. Kerensky's government collapsed because he tried to keep Russia in WWI, even after the rest of the population made it clear they wanted out. First thing Lenin did once he got in power? Sign the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk.

Russia had to fight WWII because that was a war of annihilation, an existential threat for the survival of Russia as a nation. This war is not WWII. It is not an existential conflict, anymore than the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan was. Russia's upper and middle classes, especially, are getting nothing out of this war, and they are the ones with the most to lose.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

they psy-oped themself's into oblivion. Most of their bullshit is for domestic consumption.

Propaganda is a useful tool but when you start to believe your own bullshit it becomes a problem.

I still don't know how Ukraine is striking Russian forces with its HIMARS when they were all destroyed by airstrikes within days of arriving in the country.

 

[Alexhypethrow19992]

>Claims to want to stop nato expansion
>directly expands nato
What did Putin mean by this

edit: mobile posting is a mistake

 

[Coffee Mugshot]

A group claiming to be Russian anti-war partisans is claiming the kill of Tatarsky. Same group who claimed to kill Dugin.

Responsibility for the explosion in St. Petersburg, as a result of which the "military commander" Vladlen Tatarsky was killed , was taken over by the "National Republican Army".

The statement of the "Petersburg column of the NRA" was published by the telegram channel "Rospartizan", it was also distributed by the former State Duma deputy Ilya Ponomarev, who lives in Ukraine.

“We organized and carried out an action on April 2, 2023 against a group of Z-activists and personally against the well-known warmonger and war propagandist, war criminal Maxim Fomin, known as Vladlen Tatarsky. This action was prepared and carried out by us autonomously, and we have no connection and have not received assistance from any foreign structures, let alone special services,” the organization said.

https://meduza.io/news/2023/04/04/n...na-sebya-otvetstvennost-za-vzryv-v-peterburge
Archive

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

War for itself sounds way more interesting, then this generic Slav shit turbo folk they love to put over these videos.

EE cannot into music.

A group claiming to be Russian anti-war partisans is claiming the kill of Tatarsky. Same group who claimed to kill Dugin.

If this is a true%honest group of ruzzian opposition it can be big.

We will see it in future. If some idiots like Fomin will be killed also this can be true.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Russia's entire war for Ukraine has now officially strategically failed, as the stated purpose of the "special operation" was to contain NATO's expansion near Russian borders.

This is my favorite thing about all of this.

This entire shitshow has been a disaster for Russia. Let's say for the sake of argument they actually take Ukraine. That means jackshit now due to the fact of how much resources, and manpower they've wasted, and how two even more powerful countries have joined NATO.

All this death, and destruction was not only for nothing, it accomplished exactly the opposite of what they wanted.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

This entire shitshow has been a disaster for Russia. Let's say for the sake of argument they actually take Ukraine. That means jackshit now due to the fact of how much resources, and manpower they've wasted, and how two even more powerful countries have joined NATO.

Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of soldiers that'd have to be deployed there on occupation duty for the foreseeable future.

It took the Red Army more than a decade to defeat the Forest Brothers in the Baltics during and after WWII, and that was deep behind the lines of the Warsaw Pact, not surrounded by NATO. The Baltic nations were (and are) each roughly around the size of the US state of West Virginia.

As opposed to Ukraine, which is only slightly smaller in size and population than Texas.

 

[Ghostse]

There will never come a time where enough is enough for NATO. If there is one thing the U.S. is good for, its throwing good money after bad for decades. The U.S. was prepared to support a long insurgency, Afghanistan style, before Ukraine showed it could fight. Now that Ukraine is kicking Russian ass? America will throw money and resources at Ukraine forever.

On the contrary, its Russia that is on borrowed time. Putin might be willing to run his country into the ground, but the oligarchs and Russian leadership have a lot to lose on a blundered war. They've already lost a lot. They aren't going to let this war run on indefinitely. And even the Russian population have their limits.

I disagree, to an extent.

On the first, the US will have a pain point, its just so far down the line compared to Russia. The Pentagon has so much surplus to write down so they can get new shit.

I don't think the Oligarchs or members of Putin's circle are any sort of threat. Putin is very good at making sure there is no one able to backstab and replace him, but that's cart before the horse: the Oligarchs aren't really feeling much of a pinch. They are like African Warlords or Democrat Politicians: They don't care if what they rule over is a crumbling, violent crime ridden shit hole as long as THEY are in charge, their mansion is the best, and they can afford flights to non-shithole places.
Putin could depopulate Russia and the oligarchs won't care - do you think they make their money selling oil & steel to Russians?

This is my favorite thing about all of this.

This entire shitshow has been a disaster for Russia. Let's say for the sake of argument they actually take Ukraine. That means jackshit now due to the fact of how much resources, and manpower they've wasted, and how two even more powerful countries have joined NATO.

All this death, and destruction was not only for nothing, it accomplished exactly the opposite of what they wanted.

I was grousing in the aftermath of 2014 about zero lessons being learned, no Eurocuckties increasing defense or armies despite a very clearly expansionist Russia - just buying another couple million cubic feet of russian gas so they can say they're green. I was really expecting more of the same and have been completely floored by the fact its a year on, the Euros haven't cucked yet and We're going to see a 100% NATO Baltic cost and a fully exposed Russian northern border.

Even if Zelensky tomorrow said "Wait, no I was wrong. Russia 100% best. Ukraine was a mistake." Russia has really lost. In hock to the chinks, NATO on their borders, their cucked consoomers finding alternate hydrocarbon suppliers, Venezuela distancing themselves. Hell, Cuba going against them in the UN.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

It's even more than that, it's a war for the very survival of Ukrainians as a people. Even if the Russian government won't say it out loud, actions speak louder than words - the ultimate intent here is destruction of the Ukrainian people, language and culture and forcible integration of their territory into Russia.

Could you imagine what would have happened if the US was abducting Afghan children from their parents and sending them back to the United States for "rehabilitation"?

They’re just following the example of Temujin.

As a drunken bystander rooting for my team the explosive kill on a Pro-Russian vlogger is a bit much. But as a Ukrainian having to listen to that hogwash it probably felt good. Not gonna pass judgement.

Not a fan of bombings for assassination attempts. Not that I blame Ukranians for fighting dirty considering the Russians want to wipe their people out.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

Not a fan of bombings for assassination attempts. Not that I blame Ukranians for fighting dirty considering the Russians want to wipe their people out.

Agreed in this case, there was a very high risk that innocent people in the area could have been injured or killed, including the workers at the place this event was held.

Dugina getting turned into a skidmark by blowing up her car was well-deserved but it was also carried out in a way that the risk of serious injury to bystanders was minimal. Still makes me smile to this day seeing vile Dugin's reaction to his equally disgusting daughter's death.

I have no empathy or compassion for people that evil.