Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

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elsewhere..
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n-word creeping in :)...uh, the other one.
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lmao he's getting bodied again and again. I love how much he genuinely seethes and cares about this shit too
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welcome to the fatigue zone
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'elliot rodger' aka PlatoWasSoWrong piqued my interest, lol he's been busy choobin
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'twink Roger Moore'
general spamming...
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From the interview posted on the previous page:

"One of the right wing newspapers reviewed The Prince and made transphobic comments about me, which was particularly hurtful as my parents read that paper."

I'm guessing The Telegraph. Is the FT considered right wing? In any case, I wonder how he feels about his parents being literally Hitlers.
 
From the interview posted on the previous page:

"One of the right wing newspapers reviewed The Prince and made transphobic comments about me, which was particularly hurtful as my parents read that paper."

I'm guessing The Telegraph. Is the FT considered right wing? In any case, I wonder how he feels about his parents being literally Hitlers.

I'm not sure if the review in The Telegraph is the one he refers to, unless he regards the "black eye-shadow fetish" observation to be transphobic. Review in full below:

The Prince, review:​

Hotspur becomes trans in this larky spin on​

Shakespeare and identity​


By Claire Allfree



It was only a matter of time. Following the Globe’s divisive
play I, Joan, which presented the French 14th-century folk
heroine as a trans man, it’s not remotely surprising to see
writers rushing to claim characters from the canon as
likewise trans. When it comes to Shakespeare, though,
you could argue the Victorians were ahead of this
particular curve – some 19th-century critics argued that
Hamlet was in fact a woman.

Either way, The Prince – a larkily self-aware rewrite of
Henry IV Part I with added eye roll from the trans writer
Abigail Thorn, who employs largely original
cod-Shakespearean dialogue – embraces this idea as a
logical extension of the Bard's own metatheatrical
gaming around ideas of gender, performance and
socially conditioned role play.

The rebel Henry 'Hotspur' Percy (Thorn), whom
Shakespeare presents as such a perfected image of
manhood that King Henry openly wishes he were his son
instead of his feckless heir Prince Hal, is here a trans
woman, or at least would be if she knew it were an option.
In what Thorn implies would remain a very modern
dilemma, poor Hal balks at his monarchial duty to marry,
all too aware that he is gay. Then there's Lady Kate,
Hotspur's long-suffering spouse, who is very cross indeed
at the limitations afforded her as a woman by both the
play and her position as a wife.

Meanwhile, two present-day trans women, Jen and Sam,
have somehow found themselves trapped in the
Shakespeare metaverse, able to hop in and out of different
works, although Mary Malone's delightful Jen, a walking
OMG frequently bewildered by the plot of Henry IV, is
determined to liberate that play's more obviously
unhappy characters from their various struggles with
identity. At least, points out Sam, the Shakespeare
metaverse allows them to move around (the second half
takes a brief detour into Hamlet), as opposed to that of
Andrew Lloyd Webber – she's heard of one poor soul
trapped inside Phantom for years without even the
option to visit Starlight Express.

Thorn, who highlights Hotspur’s attempts to be
aggressively masculine, even while flaunting a black
eyeshadow fetish (the problem with trying to visually
represent gender is that you immediately run into
stereotype), knows her Shakespeare: in 2019 she
performed the complete works in five days, livestreamed
for charity. All the same The Prince, directed by
Natasha Rickman, has the untidy energy of a production
you suspect would feel more at home on the Edinburgh
Fringe; it's basically a raucous younger sister to the
similarly themed West End musical & Juliet.

Yet it builds on the capacious identity complexes at the
heart of Shakespeare while offering a more inclusive and
constructive conversation than I, Joan – which,
controversially, presents Joan of Arc as a trans man. That
play implies that to be both female and a war hero is
essentially incompatible. The Prince argues quite the
opposite, however much Hotspur might reasonably
enough weary of war as a man's game.
 
I'm not sure if the review in The Telegraph is the one he refers to, unless he regards the "black eye-shadow fetish" observation to be transphobic. Review in full below
If the "transphobia" actually was something to complain about he would have named the newspaper.

And he certainly would have spent quite a bit of time whining about it on Twitter.
 
Bet he means the Times.

also, lol, Olly with his "OBVVVV what i meant was not EVERY room, i meant policy decisions'
no, you very clearly directed it from on high, to all and sundry; as is your habit- he even replied underlining in such a way that would confirm the original context, before it got to rich for his blood.
I mean, Toob, babes, my dood- exactly how many of your twitter followers do you think are regularly on awards bodies and writing govt policy ?


he's worse than Contra for chickening out about his takes after a bit of ribbing- least contra just sobers up in the cold light of day and deletes, Tube seethes silently a few days and then tries to 'obviously what I meant was' his way out -
its funny that it clearly takes him that long to come out with his crap excuses
- you can tell they are lies because they dont quite follow the previous thread, which means they are independent thoughts down long and convoluted pathways, rather than truthful instincts-
trait o the narc.
 
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Cant edit my post ( RE 'bet he meant the Times'):

So just to add, its not the Times, that MASSIVE TRANSPHOBIA'd him; no, they didnt review it.
Guess it was the sextator, then?... nope, went there, didnt review it.
Looked in the Pink'un, nothing, no review...yes, it really does appear 'eyeshadow fetish'- a harmlesly meant reference to makeup stylings, relating to in-play foreshadowing = Torygraph transphobia for the Toob. Incredible.

No wonder he didnt dare say a name. He might have actually found himself in trouble if he did- legal, offical trouble I mean- if anyone bothers to take stock of this, he will once again have blackened his name and not be getting any further reviews in the Tele, i shouldnt wonder.

He's lucky no one cares enough to watch this and link it up.

in other news

bro
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thinks 'banned for being too much of a perv for a chess app of all things' is some manner of a flex.
Stil, fun to know he wants to be impregnated by his mother as well as just wear her skin.
Cool cool cool.

bro.
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......words fail.
This is not the first time he’s lied that his voice- his real, male one, was the fake one- but it’s the most explicit. He wrote this shit down.
He surely can’t actually think it- see; all the detransitioned girls, stuck with low voices now that testosterone has thickened thier vocal chords, who - because they are not energetically insane- don’t/can’t put a on a fake high voice all the time.
But Jesus man.
He is mental.
In no way does his voice sound “now more northern” - it just sounds fake, and yeah, more American, cos he probably gets lost along the way when speaking in a voice he needs to consciously change- just like that the specific type of narc lie that you can tell is a lie because it’s on a different, deliberated thread.
Robotic creep.
 
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@AfghanBlue

He has the standard posh geordie accent. In Olly's case, the vowel sounds are much more standardised than they are geordie but a trained ear will pick up on a few northern inflections here and there.

The 'o' sound is notable amongst people from Gosforth and the other posh areas of Newcastle. It's as if it's not sure whether it wants to be a geordie monothong or a southern dipthong. I can hear it in Olly's pronunciation at times.

I haven't heard any American in his voice, although admittedly, I tend just to watch the clips posted here.
 
Headshot is the right word, lmfao LOOK at that cranium. He needs to cut his hair and lighten then load so it isn’t pulling the top so lank on his massive dome.
And where tf he get those trousers, Select in 2007?
God, muffin topping too.
one of his fake boobs is both bigger and higher than the other one.
I usually don’t give a shit to rag on his appearance but this is seriously some next level

This is what happens when you hire OLD WHITE CISHET photographer (whilst also generally being so insufferable in oppression Olympics that even if they knew, they wouldn’t dare say)
A WOC maaaybe would have felt she had enough points to generally point out the boob.. what’s she gonna do about the outfit tho.

I guess it was Brian’s day off? Where the fuck does he get these clothes.

JBYCPFISDNMIF, again.

The more you look, the worse it gets. Those godawful trousers- enhanced by the boots negatively- are clearly supposed to be high waisted, leading to the appearance of a foot-long gusset, the way Olly is wearing them.
All the better for hiding my Tube, my dear..
 
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choob's shamelessness about thirst tweet replying and talking about texting his Cuties as an important part of his morning routine gives me the impression that his seduction technique is basically:

I will not let you disparage Frank like this, that man is far more of a lothario. Like can you see this choob guy getting freaky in a Wendy's dumpster? I can't. He probably wouldn't even like when the chick rolls a bun up into a ball...

Oh, wild, you say you incorporate aspects of other people into your TRUE and HONEST personality gender?

Does he have any samples of his voice acting range that his agent sends around? :story:
 
Headshot is the right word, lmfao LOOK at that cranium. He needs to cut his hair and lighten then load so it isn’t pulling the top so lank on his massive dome.
And where tf he get those trousers, Select in 2007?
God, muffin topping too.
one of his fake boobs is both bigger and higher than the other one.
I usually don’t give a shit to rag on his appearance but this is seriously some next level
He obviously heard it’s normal for women to have one breast a little larger than the other and is trying to incorporate it into his cosplay/fetish.
 

Again with 'magical transformation' larp. You really have to wonder what 'non-passing' (misleading term) economically disadvantaged troon paypigs' honest opinions are on this. Not only does Olly do nothing but toe the firmest line with respect to trans idpol, but actively WANTS to be at the forefront of making it MORE self-contradictory, constricting and generally insufferable for everyone, trannies included. What exactly is the praxis behind insisting that he was able to will himself into sprouting moobs and melting his jaw and nasal ridge (besides seeking to project a DARVO dominatrix fetish into the political realm)?

My best attempt at guessing Olly's rationalization at denying the existence of any synthetic assistance in changing one's appearance during transition is part of his utterly deranged attempt to further the political narrative that trans identities are as innate, nay MORE innate, than biological sex itself. Makes me think back to his 'one liner' about Julius Evola's formation of transcendentally 'male' and 'female' souls when quipping 'I shudder to think of what he would have have to say about trans souls' ...ummm he wouldn't, you Berk

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I will not let you disparage Frank like this, that man is far more of a lothario. Like can you see this choob guy getting freaky in a Wendy's dumpster? I can't. He probably wouldn't even like when the chick rolls a bun up into a ball...


Oh, wild, you say you incorporate aspects of other people into your TRUE and HONEST personality gender?

Does he have any samples of his voice acting range that his agent sends around? :story:
Yes actually, they are a good bit earlier in the thread and are funny.
You might be able to find them on a search or perhaps the person who posted them will remember more the terms to find them.
 
He has the standard posh geordie accent. In Olly's case, the vowel sounds are much more standardised than they are geordie but a trained ear will pick up on a few northern inflections here and there.
I can definitely pick up on a few Northern-ish vowels when he speaks. As it's him though, I'm not sure how much of it is deliberately put on. Wouldn't be surprised if he trained himself to sound less posh.

God, muffin topping too.
Muffin-topping SO HARD. He had two options: (1) wear higher-waisted and/or looser trousers, or (2) not wear a crop top. Olly clearly chose (3), none of the above. He's channelling one of Chris Chan's more infamous looks here:

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Also is it just me or is his plastic surgery more noticeable in the photoshoot than usual? His nose in particular looks worked-on. I can't remember if his FFS included a nose job or not though.
 
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