Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[lolcow yoghurt]

I take a shower everyday

lies. trannies never shower.

no idea how painful and what that recovery will be like

amputation when?

 

[AfghanBlue]

Sepsis chick needs her mom or her sister or someone in her corner. She doesn't seem capable of advocating for herself right now.

Also, it's horrifying to me that I didn't know what a suprapubic catheter was a couple months ago and these pooners act like it's NBD to spend a quarter of your twenties pissing out your second belly button.

I have kidneys on the brain right now for various personal reasons but these people all seem like they're heading towards dialysis in their 40s. I can't imagine the physical strain that it puts on a body to have constant wound healing processes and areas of chronic poor circulation.

I wonder how many pooners are putting themselves on a spiral towards being deathfats.

What I don’t understand is that, surely sepsis is fast moving and is pretty firm to diagnose, not a maybe you do, maybe you don’t kinda thing.

I trust the ER to be able to recognise it and if she’s in there they can act accordingly should it take hold.

It may be that the top of the muscle is dead and is scabbing off and the botttom is okay and they just need to leave it in place.
I was surprised one time (I took my nana to get a cyst exam- where they jab a pincher into the breast and pull off a bit of the cyst with an X-ray to guide them. Very painful to get my nana to wince and mutter about discomfort; anyway the idiots didn’t aspirate the thing afterwards, so basically as soon as I got her home, I was like.. your top is covered in liquid.. and blood.
Luckily my mum, an ex nurse was near by, I called her in to help, and she got there right as I was about to clean the wound of the goop that was coming out of it.
She stopped me and said that, gross as it is, you should leave blood/puss in place against the sterile dressing, rather than introduce new bacteria trying to clean it, and the bodily grossness provides it’s own layer of protection.
Just draIn the goop but dooooont touch the incision site.
That’s totally counter intuitive, to me.
I don’t know if that situation changes if the grossness is like, infected and smelly etc?
This stuff wasn’t. Just liquid that bodies produce as their own protection.

For this TiF… it looks like as thin layer of graft bandage stuff, it might be the dissolvable shit that will get eaten up into a scab- it might be that she’s just gonna lose a top layer of muscle but fucking arond with it would then just make a new top layer.

Of corse this is all uninformed guesswork, but the very fact she’s in a hospital and they aren’t freaking is hopeful for her.

 

[BBChannel]

Troon throwavvitch shows off his amhole after 1 year of healing. Butcher was Zhao of Bluebond. (A)

He's pleased with his results, claims he can coom and pee just fine. Only had to deal with 1 UTI and some wound dehiscience.
Initially he claimed he couldn't coom nor was he happy with how his testicles look to be escaping from his amhole. Now it looks like they flattened those testes and are permanently shriveled.

Spoiler: Several days post-op amhole

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Spoiler: 1 year post-op amhole

He definitely has hair growing in there since he did the one and done approach since he was quick to get the chop. I'm amazed he found someone to touch his flattened testes without gloves. He's content with this final result, but I guess anything is better than the rotting disaster he started with by his own choosing.
Only two troons claim he has great results, but their standards are likely low from seeing so many fetid amholes.

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ElementalFemme
Did your scar care change throughout recovery or was it pretty much just the products you listed in the week 5 post?
Are there any things you'd do different in your recovery? Or additional tips to pass along?
Scar Away, increase protein, Vitamin C, fish oil, collagen, probiotic, and a multivitamin supplement, right?

throwavvitch
Yep that's it! Scar away I think is the big one. Along with scar massage. I got some Amazon massage oil and just did it after dilating.
I don't think there's much I would do differently during recovery. Stuff I did find very valuable during immediate recovery:
Being in a place where I could walk around easily. We were close to the water so I just walked up and down that most days.
Videos. I didn't have reading books or playing video games in me at all, but I did watch a ton of sex lives of college girls and below deck. I thought I'd be more able to read or play video games, and I ended up not doing either at all.
For medium term recovery, I ended up using my bum cushion that they give you more than I expected. I put it in the little purple NYU tote they give you and just sat on the bag a lot. On trains, planes, at movies, at weddings, everywhere.
Once I felt good enough to be able to start doing yoga and working out again, things felt a lot better. Both being more comfortable in my body (with tight fitting clothing) and also being active really did wonders for me.
I think I went into surgery in a pretty good place mentally, and it was still really hard. Surgery effectively makes you act depressed (need to limit physical activity, sleep a lot, can't go out much because you're constantly dilating). I really wouldn't underestimate the toll it can take. I had a rougher go of it than many will have because of my complications, but it's a risk for anyone. Definitely pay attention to your mental state before and plan out how you'll take care of yourself after. The (wonderful) social worker will go over this with you, and I'd definitely take it seriously.

aadiehayes
Your results are amazing, and you look great! Glad to hear that you have no regrets!

j3ss_ica
you look great

 

[hufflemuff]

The poony thigh graft is rotting and infecting her blood !! Some of the doctors seem to agree that she has sepsis at this point. How is it possible to be so relaxed about it?? To be weighing up all the opinions and moaning ??? How they can be such thin skinned drama addicts in general life but when there is an actual problem they are weirdly accepting and relaxed ? Is she enjoying being centre of attention with an actual problem ? She is gravely ill.. time really is of the essence here. But she’s still : maybe / maybe not going back to the other surgeon .. etc.
Argh … I can’t bear reading it ! Get it fixed for fucks sake !!! She could easily lose her whole leg by the end of this week ! (BTW sepsis is my absolute worst fear )

They're generally unfazed by serious shit because they're all on potent drugs, antidepressants, mood stabilizers, ADHD meds. It's absolutely possible to make you feel unstressed about even life and death matters simply by the use of chemicals. Having a crisis after being "misgendered" on the other hand is just them throwing a tantrum, they're mad someone has interrupted their coomer fantasy, not anxious about it (even when they manipulatively claim they are).

 

[Otterly]

She mentions she's been in the ICU for several days,

Ok, I read it as ‘been to the ER several times and the ICU’ - if she’s been admitted then maybe she’s needed more supportive care. You don’t bounce back out of a wound like that and just go home though, or after sepsis, it will flatten you… is no one caring for her at home?
It just staggers me how they treat these complications. Imagine going in to have a wound the size of a book cleared out and just imagining you’ll go home after fine and dandy. You don’t recover quickly from something like sepsis that requires admission. And If you’ve been in high dependency care for anything you’re going to need weeks to get back on your feet.
Dicing with death, the lot of them

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

Ok, I read it as ‘been to the ER several times and the ICU’ - if she’s been admitted then maybe she’s needed more supportive care. You don’t bounce back out of a wound like that and just go home though, or after sepsis, it will flatten you… is no one caring for her at home?
It just staggers me how they treat these complications. Imagine going in to have a wound the size of a book cleared out and just imagining you’ll go home after fine and dandy. You don’t recover quickly from something like sepsis that requires admission. And If you’ve been in high dependency care for anything you’re going to need weeks to get back on your feet.
Dicing with death, the lot of them

Yeah, I read your post after I'd submitted mine and realized I might have misunderstood what she meant. I'm still giving her the benefit of the doubt; it's possible that she's so acutely ill she's not understanding what the treatment plan is.

I will say that upon re-reading her posts, it's incredibly telling that she's lecturing the doctors about what the problem is and how to treat it. Statements like, "what i and a few other doctors believe is sepsis" and "my blood pressure is very low and i keep telling them it’s gonna stay low until the dead tissue is out because i know that’s the problem and they don’t listen" reeks of entitlement. Of course they don't want to deal with her, she sounds awful to work with.

Either way, it's absolutely insane. Her arm leg is rotting off and she's worried about getting back to her original butcher. She's definitely got some magical thinking, like her butcher will just carve some more tissue out of her arm leg, give her a happy face sticker for being such a brave soldier, pat her on the ass, and send her home to pee standing up happily ever after. She's going to be lucky to retain use of her hand foot. I know that young people often feel invincible, but this is absurd. I wonder if everyone is tiptoeing around the issue because they don't want to seem like they're telling her that this situation is her fault.

Something fucky is happening, I just can't decide what. Upon reflection, I can't tell if she's intentionally misrepresenting what's going on or if she's too sick to be a reliable narrator. If it's the latter, she cannot consent to anything and I hope she has someone willing to step in, even if it's some kind of ethics committee within the hospital. Regardless of what is actually happening, there's obviously a huge gulf between her perception of the situation and how the physicians treating her perceive it. Hopefully she hasn't completely alienated anyone who might give a shit about her.

What a mess.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

Her arm is rotting off

I think it's actually her leg.

When I said I wanted pix of her toes, I was thinking that might be lulzy/horrifying.

She should be pen friends with Kelly Ronahan.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

I think it's actually her leg.

When I said I wanted pix of her toes, I was thinking that might be lulzy/horrifying.

She should be pen friends with Kelly Ronahan.

Oof, yeah, you are correct. The fact that it's her thigh is even worse.

 

[Fapcop]

Something definitely isn’t right with that chick. (Obviously beyond the rotdog insanity.)

Out of an abundance of trust in Amerimutt docs, I think that there is some mild sepsis, possibly of the muscle itself, but as of right now the risks of surgery are greater than the benefits.

(The fact that there’s a butcher responsible out there would probably also make them less likely to do anything. They don’t want to get a “well you operated on my patient, I never would have done it in that way, so she’s your patient now!”)

Another thing that makes me suspicious is her insistence that she knows better than the doctors, and the low blood pressure proves anything. Blood pressure can be low for numerous reasons.

My best guess is that she’s getting adequate care, but her mind is even more fucked than usual. And she’s not used to doctors that don’t affirm everything she’s saying but actually say: “Miss, I appreciate your input, but I disagree.”

 

[KiwiFuzz]

I'm going deep into the u/vtmk wormhole.

She's 18 and dear god this comment has aged like milk:

"the thing that’s always helped me is just remembering that one day this is all gonna be worth it and i’ll finally be free and where i wanna be with my body."

https://archive.ph/wip/6EBjr

https://www.reddit.com/r/ftm/comments/swutvj/how_to_cope_with_gender_dysphoria/hxog8qn/?context=3

 

[weirdwound]

It's like the little mermaid, if Ariel went to Ursula for a rotdog, but she loses her tail instead. Or something. Trading your leg for a squishy fake dick!!!

 

[Leakage Current]

Yes, excellent idea. I'm sure nothing can go wrong.

She wants to get discharged with what she suspects is sepsis and "make her way" to Cleveland.
Great idea. It's not like sepsis kills in like a day.

My dog had sepsis as a post-surgery cancer complication and from fever onset to death barely a day passed. Shit's insanely deadly.

 

[Sissyagamben]

Man, seeing that pooner suffer really sucks. I had posted earlier here tmi about my arm tattoo that’s not healing properly. And im kinda hypochondriac so I made up my mind n went to see a doctor. Doctor not sure completely if it’s infected, but gave me antibiotics anyways. Since taking it the tattoo has improved drastically and I’m not worried I might sudden die from blood poisoning. Everything’s fine for me, thank god!

But man, that little pooner is really in deep. She can’t just take some pills for the worry to go away, she’s in the hospital and very confused, angry, and lost. Worst of all she’s butchered herself in the worst way possible, I’d really rather have both of my legs cut off than have her whole bundle of problems. At least then I’ll still be able to poop and pee, tf?

Man, it’s not just she seems to be alone with no one to care and advocate for her, and her whole body and life’s fucked up to the point of no return. I wonder how many post op trannies just drop dead? This pooner at least got herself in the hospital, with the hospital personnel to watch out for her. I don’t want to imagine the possibility that no one will do that after she’s discharged, and to get her back in the hospital when it gets worse. It looks that way though

What if she was two or three days late to decide to do sth about it? Did she drive herself there or how did she get there? When she was doubting she at least went on Reddit to ask someone, and decided to get to hospital. What if she’s already too weak to commute/type on Reddit? Like she just ignored her instincts sth might be infected for two more days? I’m sure there are many more like her, and there are definitely trannies who just succumbed before even getting to the hospital. It took me some, minimal, but definitely some effort to have my possible infection checked out, I can very much imagine someone who’s way crazier than me and have their genitals messed up not being able to make those efforts. All the feels man, they are messing up themselves and societies with their gender bs, but their reality of life still gimme the feels.

 

[Sissyagamben]

Sorry for double post, but looking into this pooners history is horrifying

She’s got full hysto:

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i definitely found my hysto to be more intense than top surgery (didn’t have any pain with top though and still felt normal) but it felt so good after to just know it was all gone and i’d never have to deal with it again. stay on your pain meds and take them when you’re supposed to but it was more uncomfortable than painful. i was too tired from anesthesia to care what everyone was thinking but it still was a bit embarrassing waking up from it and bleeding from it but it wasn’t anything too embarrassing and i made sure the nurses gave me privacy when they wanted me to pee before i left (they did try to stay in the room since they were worried i’d fall but i refused and wouldn’t until they left lol) the hot flashes were the worst part since i did get both ovaries removed so it took about a good few weeks to feel normal again which i didn’t expect but it was so worth it and it’ll all be okay! the method i had done was laparoscopic though so it was simple and nothing too harsh

Her phallo was scheduled when she was just 17, even though the date for it was after she’s 18 (If I’m reading correctly)

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yes I scheduled one at 17 but it was scheduled for after my 18th birthday

In another comment she said she scheduled it when she was 17, so she could prepare for all the documents to get phallo ASAP. She said she’s having the hysto the summer before phallo, so summer 2022? She was either still 17, or barely 18. ETA: top surgery was done April 2022, full hysto that same summer. She must have been 17 when at least one of those happened.

Her writing style is so feminine, with tons of !!!!!! and doesn’t have her autocapital thing on. But that’s nothing new here. She’s not blaming her doctor Gupta, saying he’s a great guy, and it’s mostly the plastic surgery teams fault. That’s nothing new here either.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

The more she writes, the more quickly my sympathy for her dissolves. It's amazing how they can manage that.

 

[MalachiteMask]

ER yes ok I believe you. ICU? No. She’s claiming to be in intensive care and then just let go? Lol.

Her mention of self-discharging from the ICU made my eyebrows do things. Like....I'm fairly certain that's not how it works.

If none of the doctors believe she has sepsis, why is she in the ICU? If she's presenting with necrotic tissue in her leg, why hasn't that been surgically excised? IANAD, but that seems like an incredibly high priority issue to address - and if none of the doctors she's yammering at believe her, then what is our unreliable narrator not telling us? 'Cause quite frankly, I don't believe anything in her post.

EDIT: Ignore me, @Thomas Eugene Paris addressed most of my questions in his post at the top of the page.

 

[Quack_Quack]

Generally, the sickest patients are at higher risk, and the incidence increases with length of stay. Risk factors include administration of opiate painkillers and general anesthesia.

She's definitely hit both those risk factors for delirium.

Just draIn the goop but dooooont touch the incision site.
That’s totally counter intuitive, to me.
I don’t know if that situation changes if the grossness is like, infected and smelly etc?
This stuff wasn’t. Just liquid that bodies produce as their own protection.

Yeah, the clear liquid is ok, as it's just your body's reaction. If that goes funny and stinks there's an infection.

Something fucky is happening, I just can't decide what. Upon reflection, I can't tell if she's intentionally misrepresenting what's going on or if she's too sick to be a reliable narrator

Could be both. Could be infection based delirium like elderly people get and sends them nutso. It did that to my nan when she had sepsis before she died. Because it was so deeply intrenched it affected the other bodily systems. And her blood pressure was too low to give her the anti anxiety meds to quell the delirium. Which, on thinking, may be what has happened here.

 

[Quack_Quack]

Generally, the sickest patients are at higher risk, and the incidence increases with length of stay. Risk factors include administration of opiate painkillers and general anesthesia.

She's definitely hit both those risk factors for delirium.

Just draIn the goop but dooooont touch the incision site.
That’s totally counter intuitive, to me.
I don’t know if that situation changes if the grossness is like, infected and smelly etc?
This stuff wasn’t. Just liquid that bodies produce as their own protection.

Yeah, the clear liquid is ok, as it's just your body's reaction. If that goes funny and stinks there's an infection.

Something fucky is happening, I just can't decide what. Upon reflection, I can't tell if she's intentionally misrepresenting what's going on or if she's too sick to be a reliable narrator

Could be both. Could be infection based delirium like elderly people get and sends them nutso. It did that to my nan when she had sepsis before she died. Because it was so deeply intrenched it affected the other bodily systems. And her blood pressure was too low to give her the anti anxiety meds to quell the delirium. Which, on thinking, may be what has happened here.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

Yeah, the clear liquid is ok, as it's just your body's reaction. If that goes funny and stinks there's an infection.

Also, if someone is bleeding and you're applying pressure with a clean towel or bandage that becomes saturated with blood, add clean dry layers on top of the soaked ones rather than removing and replacing them. You don't want to disrupt a fragile new clot and start the bleeding again. Just keep adding new layers as you need to, and obviously, if someone is bleeding that severely, you or another bystander should call for help as soon as possible.

Could be both. Could be infection based delirium like elderly people get and sends them nutso. It did that to my nan when she had sepsis before she died. Because it was so deeply intrenched it affected the other bodily systems. And her blood pressure was too low to give her the anti anxiety meds to quell the delirium. Which, on thinking, may be what has happened here.

Time will tell, I guess. If it weren't for the picture of the dead graft, I'd be convinced this was some troonacy and she was lying. Having seen the photo, though, I'm just not sure.

 

[Deezy]

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Yes, excellent idea. I'm sure nothing can go wrong.

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She wants to get discharged with what she suspects is sepsis and "make her way" to Cleveland.
Great idea. It's not like sepsis kills in like a day.

My dog had sepsis as a post-surgery cancer complication and from fever onset to death barely a day passed. Shit's insanely deadly.

Oh! I’m a medical microbiologist, I can weigh in a little.

There are several symptoms for sepsis that will get you treated with a broad spectrum antibiotic right away—low blood pressure is one of them, but patients usually also present with a fever and rapid breathing/heart rate.

Lab testing for sepsis is a pretty clear-cut. They draw two tubes of blood and incubate them for 5 days to see if anything grows. If it’s positive for bacterial growth, THEN the lab will try to ID the organism and figure out if the prescribed antibiotic is adequate treatment to kill the infection or if you need something else; but it usually takes at least a day and it’s not like a rapid kit test they can do in-house. Basically, if your nurse thinks you are septic because you come in presenting with all the right symptoms, you are already on antibiotics long before the lab figures out what, if anything, is growing in your blood.