Culture The Bull Pit - Pitbull News Megathread - aka sperginity speds out agendaposting

https://www.cheknews.ca/pit-bull-attack-near-nanaimo-injures-two-children-and-one-woman-450395/

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Two 8-month-old pit bulls that were loose in Nanaimo attacked several children, severely injuring at least one. Other people that came to aid the children were also injured.

The children were playing in a yard at the house of one of their friends. The dogs were from somewhere else in the neighborhood and had been cited for being at large previously.

One of the owners of the dogs came and got the dogs but did not stick around. The news interviewed the other owner, a Dangerhair that looked to be in her late 40s or early 50s. While she was devastated at what her dogs had done, she said to the reporter, "People are saying, look at this from the prospective of a parent, well, these dogs are my kids, too," and then she broke down crying.

It was later reported both dogs were euthanized, as there have been other incidents prior to this one, and due to the severity of the injuries the one particular child sustained.

To the dangerhair dog owner I would have to say, "If these dogs were your KIDS, you did a lousy job of raising them. Thank heavens you didn't spawn any of your own."

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

To be fair all three were acting like niggers so, not sure who to root for here.

Supposedly someone else filled in the details that the Pitbull attacked the guys dog, guy kicked it off, owner started bitching, and the guy punched the Pitt bull owner for threatening his dog.

 

[Fishy Fish Fish]

Part of the reason why shelters will never be fined for "accidentally" mislabeling a dog by breed is because shelters operate on very thin margins and most of the time only are able to make ends meet via donations and volunteers (at least every shelter I've ever lived by acts like this).

One of two fines by people who were mauled by one of their dogs that were labeled "mixed breed" could hypothetically shut down a shelter, which would then open up a whole new can of worms.

Shelters mislabel pits in order to get fools to adopt them. They know exactly what they're doing and they don't give a damn how many kids and elderly get attacked as long as the 'poor, sweet pibble' doesn't get euthanized.

Oh wow, if only there was a way to fix this problem, such as just euthanizing pits. Then they wouldn't have to worry about paying for all of them!

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

I saw a lab puppy on petfinder locally, it was 6 months old, the only shelter in the area that doesn't label pits as "mixed breeds" and one of the few that don't just have pits, so was thinking of giving them a chance. They don't list their prices, then I saw the application, which is longer than a job application, and very invasive. They want to know if you will pay for an obedience class if necessary, if you travel frequently, if you would pay for a housemates allergy medicine, if they can visit your home, a personal reference, etc. I honestly can't think of a single instance in my life where that would be considered acceptable or normal. Maybe if you had a search warrant issued for your property or you applied to a three letter agency they would be more invasive.

I've heard of someone being denied getting a puppy because they had a primarily outdoor german shepherd, that wanted to be outdoors, and came into the house when they wanted to. That person was pissed and rightfully so. It's the mentality that plagues too many people, if you don't do exactly how I do something you are wrong and a terrible person. I wouldn't be surprised if I would be denied for an application because I let my pup run free on acreage and feed them a raw diet because it's not Purina™ approved.

God that's insane

Here's what an LEGIT expensive lab breeding operation looks like

https://www.classiclabs.com/

The lady that runs it has prospective buyers come out and play with the puppies when they're ~6-8 weeks old. The puppy that interacts with you the best (forget if you pick the gender or not) is the one you get. Most of her dogs are yello or black with a few chocolates popping up every so often. She breeds for agreeability, obedience, health (as best she can) and overall positive lab traits.

Her dogs are..... $5,000 EACH

That said, as she says "it's the only love money can buy" and all of her dogs are "named" with that weird AKC naming thing so they can be legit show or breeding dogs too if you want. Once you get the dog, raise it as you want, work it as you want, it's your dog.

 

[Nick Gars]

To be fair all three were acting like niggers so, not sure who to root for here.

Supposedly someone else filled in the details that the Pitbull attacked the guys dog, guy kicked it off, owner started bitching, and the guy punched the Pitt bull owner for threatening his dog.

Given that context... I think puncher is a pretty cool guy. Eh punches pitbulls and their owners and doesnt afraid of anything.

 

[likeacrackado]

Bit of a pl but it needs to be said, my local sheriff took over the pound recently and turned it into a no-kill shelter, and started handing out pits left and right, if you go on his facebook page all you see is lovey dovey messages about 'widdle pibble needs a forever home and love and care' with pink text and flowers and hearts, while 95% of the dogs handed out are shitbulls. I can understand a no-kill cat shelter, but "people" in the south are breeding these monsters so fast you gotta have some metric for euthanasia otherwise your shelter will just be packed to the brim with aggressive ass shitbulls, without even any room for other dogs.

One of the "redpills" for me on the cop question was their affinity for pitbulls. Same breed loved by career criminals is loved by many LEO/Mil people who you would think would be the opposite kind of person. It's extra batshit because I also assume cops would have more bad experiences with aggressive dogs than the average person.

 

[Equal Rights for Androids]

One of the "redpills" for me on the cop question was their affinity for pitbulls. Same breed loved by career criminals is loved by many LEO/Mil people who you would think would be the opposite kind of person. It's extra batshit because I also assume cops would have more bad experiences with aggressive dogs than the average person.

I read a book written by a cop that said criminals and LEO have the same high risk behavior which is why cops and criminals think more similarly than the general population. However, most cops are like normal humans in that they don't understand the true danger of a pitbull versus a normal dog. They just see pit bulls as normal dogs, and that's due to retards online and the shelters shilling them as nannydogs. I still think of that story another user told about how a military guy raised a blue nose pitbull to a T. Always listened and never attacked anyone until one day, he came home to find blood everywhere. Pitbull had killed the child and mother tried to stop it, which resulted in her death, too. The guy shot the dog and then shot himself. Most people don't know or refuse to believe that pitbulls are killing machines until they themselves get assaulted by one or they lose their kid to one.

 

[Bakarina]

I read a book written by a cop that said criminals and LEO have the same high risk behavior which is why cops and criminals think more similarly than the general population. However, most cops are like normal humans in that they don't understand the true danger of a pitbull versus a normal dog. They just see pit bulls as normal dogs, and that's due to retards online and the shelters shilling them as nannydogs. I still think of that story another user told about how a military guy raised a blue nose pitbull to a T. Always listened and never attacked anyone until one day, he came home to find blood everywhere. Pitbull had killed the child and mother tried to stop it, which resulted in her death, too. The guy shot the dog and then shot himself. Most people don't know or refuse to believe that pitbulls are killing machines until they themselves get assaulted by one or they lose their kid to one.

That's so sad. And prove that pitbulls, by nature, are fucked.

I know too many people irl that have both young children and pibbles. It isn't worth the argument or potential ostracism to bring up why I never show up whenever we have get togethers at their place because they're all extremely defensive about their pits and "it's how you raise them" mentality, even with the articles about family pibbles being hand raised by said family only for the dog to snap one day and eat someone. Such things could never happen to them!

 

[Null]

Here's what an LEGIT expensive lab breeding operation looks like

Is there a list of highly trustworthy breeding groups like this for different breeds?

 

[beef lo mein]

Nigger was a pussy for not just shooting it. Who the fuck cares if someone was watching?

I carry every time I take my Frenchies (yes I know I'm a monster for rescuing a genetic dead end save me the sermon) to the dog park.

How would you be the monster for rescuing? You didn’t breed them. Frenchies are good tempered little dudes.

A little OT but rescues themselves are generally run by money hungry BPD hoarder psychos. The bar for entry to even be considered is ridiculous and stupid. You don’t get to come and inspect my home if I’m giving you $700 for a six year old lab. They’re all fucking loonies.

As for breeders, I like people who go for sound temperament, biddability, and good health, so I’m usually looking at gun dogs. Seriously, if you want a healthy dog, look at people who breed hunting dogs. The AKC is filled with actual trash these days. It’s gotten bad over the past twenty years. Even if the breed is fucked because the genetic pool is the size of a postage stamp, they refuse to bring in healthy blood.

It’s a racket and the whole ‘you MUST spay and neuter the puppy I sell you or I will take it back, peon’ is bullshit and contributed heavily to the fucking wreckage of some breeds.

 

[Lost Soul]

https://www.classiclabs.com/
The lady that runs it has prospective buyers come out and play with the puppies when they're ~6-8 weeks old. The puppy that interacts with you the best (forget if you pick the gender or not) is the one you get. Most of her dogs are yello or black with a few chocolates popping up every so often. She breeds for agreeability, obedience, health (as best she can) and overall positive lab traits.

Her dogs are..... $5,000 EACH

I mean, yeah, its is a breeder. Breeders will always be WAY more expensive especially if it is for show dogs or for wanting to have another pair, but the kicker is when rescues charge (as a whole) large amounts just as high based on fees, travel expenses, applications, cost of the dog(s), etc.

I was in the process of hunting down a more expensive rescue when I came across this masterpiece:
Speranza Animal Rescue
S/A

What a DEAL! $300 for a pit you can get at a shelter for only $30!!

S/A

Is there a list of highly trustworthy breeding groups like this for different breeds?

What do you define as "highly trustworthy"? Best way to find is by word of mouth locally or semi-locally. It often seems like lists online, even for AKC, are paid off. Even if you ask a local vet the same thing happens. When I had went through a new town and asked about good groomers in the area, they told me they had no idea, but I could try the one posted to their board.

If you trust AKC, they have a program called AKC Breeder Of Merit.
What the program is: S/A
Requirements to be in the program: S/A
And here is their market place: S/A

Once you know the breed you want, can search it in your area and go through the listings. Each listing will have information on the breeder as well with plenty of details. If I ever have concerns it is also best to do some research on the breeder by looking them up based on name, kennel name, phone number, address, etc to see if they come up on any blacklists, news articles, social media, etc.

 

[Less Nasty Old Person]

Is there a list of highly trustworthy breeding groups like this for different breeds?

Not really. The Kennel Club lists breeders on their website but these are basically just ads. Talk to any breeder and they'll tell you all the other breeders except them are puppy mills. It's impossible to trust any of them.

You may as well shop from the Amish.

 

[Equal Rights for Androids]

As for breeders, I like people who go for sound temperament, biddability, and good health, so I’m usually looking at gun dogs. Seriously, if you want a healthy dog, look at people who breed hunting dogs. The AKC is filled with actual trash these days. It’s gotten bad over the past twenty years. Even if the breed is fucked because the genetic pool is the size of a postage stamp, they refuse to bring in healthy blood.

Never forget the retards that decided not to crossbreed the Dalmatian with a pointer to save it from high urinary uric acid, forcing the canine to suffer lifelong urinary stones. These stones scrape along the lines of your urethra (much like kidney stones) and cause pain. These faggots would rather the Dalmatian suffer lifelong excruciating pain and urethral occlusion than to introduce another breed to donate a gene to spare the dog from this issue. And it doesn't change how the dog looks outside of smaller spots. Fuck 'purebred' dog breeders who knowingly keep genetic issues in the dog. That means fuck every showdog German Shepherd breeder, fuck every flat-nosed pug breeder, fuck every Chiari-like malformed Cavalier King Charles Spaniel and Chihuahua breeder.

 

[beef lo mein]

Never forget the retards that decided not to crossbreed the Dalmatian with a pointer to save it from high urinary uric acid, forcing the canine to suffer lifelong urinary stones. These stones scrape along the lines of your urethra (much like kidney stones) and cause pain. These faggots would rather the Dalmatian suffer lifelong excruciating pain and urethral occlusion than to introduce another breed to donate a gene to spare the dog from this issue. And it doesn't change how the dog looks outside of smaller spots. Fuck 'purebred' dog breeders who knowingly keep genetic issues in the dog. That means fuck every showdog German Shepherd breeder, fuck every flat-nosed pug breeder, fuck every Chiari-like malformed Cavalier King Charles Spaniel and Chihuahua breeder.

Trust, I already did my syringomyelia rant for Cavs. Or the horrific conformation for German Shepherds who can barely walk, and the shitheads at Crufts go into raptures about how graceful they are.

But I think we have a thread for bad breeders, which is basically ‘a whole fuckton of them’.

 

[Lost Soul]

Never forget the retards that decided not to crossbreed the Dalmatian with a pointer to save it from high urinary uric acid, forcing the canine to suffer lifelong urinary stones. These stones scrape along the lines of your urethra (much like kidney stones) and cause pain. These faggots would rather the Dalmatian suffer lifelong excruciating pain and urethral occlusion than to introduce another breed to donate a gene to spare the dog from this issue. And it doesn't change how the dog looks outside of smaller spots. Fuck 'purebred' dog breeders who knowingly keep genetic issues in the dog. That means fuck every showdog German Shepherd breeder, fuck every flat-nosed pug breeder, fuck every Chiari-like malformed Cavalier King Charles Spaniel and Chihuahua breeder.

I mean the whole dog-breeding scene really is nothing more than any other business. They are going to play it up, hit buzzwords, tell you what you want to hear, and charge for all kinds of bullshit. I agree with you that these fucks are just as bad as any other.

Mutts are for sure the way to go, especially when it comes to breeding "down" health problems at the very least.

Even though Amish do have puppy mills and the parents are treated like crap, to them they are nothing different than livestock, however this mentality helps keep the prices down and can also provide mutts and other things that you won't be able to get from a "breeder."

I also agree to just buy from Amish, but make sure to:

• Ask if you can see the parents. Won't always be able to see both, and they could lie to you, but it helps give them credibility if they do.
• Ask to view the puppy. They typically do, but if they don't, don't buy from them.
• Get "vet records", most Amish do their own vet stuff, but they would still have the records. You'll need those.
• Amish still have a basic "Return" policy for health. Short, but still have it.
• Check for obvious issues such as ear mites, fleas, ticks, broken paw pads, broken teeth, discolored gums, foggy eyes, broken nails, any discharge from the ears ass or mouth, scars, and bleeding.
• It is possible to get runts.

They also don't give a shit who you are so they won't ask for your life story because to them the dog is no different than a chicken.

 

[Equal Rights for Androids]

@Lost Soul Runts are cute, though ):

 

[2525ABC]

Is there a list of highly trustworthy breeding groups like this for different breeds?

In brief, not really. The breed registries don't give a fuck as long as the pedigree is true. And show dog breeders are bitchy weirdos with complicated multigenerational grudges that they press whenever a newbie is around so asking questions will get you recruited into a weird dog war.
For working lines it's a little better because most owners are fairly knowledgeable and at least some of them are not mad. Since that scene is all about having sane sound dogs they are mostly happy to tell on a shit breeder, and trial results are proof the parents are physically sound and highly trainable.
For pet purposes the best pup you'll ever find is when your friend's bitch gets accidentally covered by some random mutt (non-bull type) and the puppies are raised in a nice family house with kids and dogs and cats and love.

 

[Lost Soul]

@Lost Soul Runts are cute, though ):
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Wasn't a knock
Just an FYI to those who might be considering getting from Amish.
Honestly, some people who are sub-par at owning dogs would probably be better off owning runts of certain breeds to be able to handle sizes better or for apartment living.

 

[Product Placement]

I saw a pitbull puppy in the city center today, very small but owners had no control over it and were only saved from it biting someone due to how weak it was at that age

 

[autoerotic bus accident]

But I think we have a thread for bad breeders, which is basically ‘a whole fuckton of them’.

We do indeed.
Animal Breeding Horror Show

There are some fine, fine indictments of both inbred pitbulls and the kind of people who inevitably breed pitbulls over there.

 

[AnOminous]

Mutts are for sure the way to go, especially when it comes to breeding "down" health problems at the very least.

Mutts are best doges.