Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

Sane people make decisions based on calculations of risks. That is why people who are not mentally retarded choose to wear seat belts.
Seat belts have a better protection record than MRNA gene therapy, which would be analogous to a shitty worn down seat belt that's held together by its last five strings of fabric
And take flu shots.
Flu shots are a meme, they literally just guess which influenza strain is going around every year and put out a shot for it. And thats not to mention all the doctors prescribing outdated medicine like tamiflu. But at least with flu shots there is an actual inoculation, unlike MRNA injections
And for that matter get COVID shots that outside of literal retard sources, actually are efficacious
Efficacy wanes in 6 months and they never tested if it prevented infection or transmission, much less actually immunized people against anything. That's not efficacious, that's a fucking scam
 
How are you this dumb? How are you this retarded?

Sane people make decisions based on calculations of risks. That is why people who are not mentally retarded choose to wear seat belts. And take flu shots. And for that matter get COVID shots that outside of literal retard sources, actually are efficacious. I know it makes Alex Jones watchers angry, but sorry, outside of tard sources, these vaxes worked.

Your anger doesn't convince me. You may be super pissed off and have really angry soyjak avatars, but that doesn't make you right. You're still just a pissed-off retard.
I bet you still wear a mask in public and the only time you ever pull it down is to take a chug of your Big Gulp.
 
It's as simple as the peer pressure model: "if I don't get it everyone will think I'm crazy/stupid/dangerous and I will lose social capital"
I know how the thought process works in an abstract sense, I was just wanting a more "juicy" insider take

Yeah because they shoved a bunch of covid infected groids into their nursing homes to beat the shit out of them and get them sick.
that would be such a based username
 
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Flu shots are a meme, they literally just guess which influenza strain is going around every year and put out a shot for it.
Yeah I'm sure they just roll dice you fucking mongoloid sped. Somehow they've magically guessed right every year except for one of the last 30 or so.
 
okay, and we've established there are reasons for that. it doesn't mean that hospitals are falsely reporting covid-19 as a means to get government money, which is where this conversation always goes.

No we haven't established any reasons for that. That's the whole thing you got caught on, there is no reason for it. You tried to claim that hospitals were being paid 2.6x more money for COVID-19 pneumonia than other forms of pneumonia because COVID-19 somehow costs 2.6x more to treat. This has been shown as total bullshit that you made up out of thin air with no soorce or evidence at all, then you tried to salvage it with circular reasoning of "well, since the government paid people that, it must obviously be justified," as if anything the government does is automatically reasonable by default.

Which I mean, props, that's a new height of shilling that I don't think I've ever seen before. And to be fair, based on your posts, I think there is a high chance that you are legitimately too stupid to understand a concept like circular reasoning and recognize when you are engaging in it.

@gang weeder just because you're too dumb to understand something doesn't make it fraud or a conspiracy. read the thread, educate yourself. C:

So like HHH, you are reduced to posting insults and completely give up on defending your points now that you're caught out. Absolute Dunning-Kruger. BTW, my main point here has just been to make fun of you for your total hypocrisy on sourcefagging, since it shows how dishonest you are and that no one should take you seriously. I find it likely that people probably did make false COVID-19 diagnoses, but that's a separate discussion from the question of why the government was paying people tons of money to diagnose COVID in the first place. Do you get that those are two separate issues? Probably not but it's still worth pointing out for the other people in the thread with triple digit IQs.

How are you this dumb? How are you this retarded?

Sane people make decisions based on calculations of risks. That is why people who are not mentally retarded choose to wear seat belts. And take flu shots. And for that matter get COVID shots that outside of literal retard sources, actually are efficacious. I know it makes Alex Jones watchers angry, but sorry, outside of tard sources, these vaxes worked.

Your anger doesn't convince me. You may be super pissed off and have really angry soyjak avatars, but that doesn't make you right. You're still just a pissed-off retard.

Define "worked." We were promised it would make you immune to COVID, stop transmission, and end lockdowns. It did none of that. If you move the goalposts all the way down to "did it do literally anything at all, did it even have 1% effectiveness," I mean sure, maybe it "worked" by that standard. Although even by that standard it's very questionable whether the shots "worked."

All these claims that "the vax works bro!" boil down to appeals to authority pointing at the FDA or CDC or etc. telling you that it "works," but you can't show actual evidence that it does, and again, all of those actors already got caught lying big time, so why are they any more trustworthy than Alex Jones now? If anything Alex Jones is less dishonest because at least you know what you're getting with him, he's not trying to sell himself as a serious totally objective completely authoritative government actor.
 
How are you this dumb? How are you this retarded?

Sane people make decisions based on calculations of risks. That is why people who are not mentally retarded choose to wear seat belts. And take flu shots. And for that matter get COVID shots that outside of literal retard sources, actually are efficacious. I know it makes Alex Jones watchers angry, but sorry, outside of tard sources, these vaxes worked.

Your anger doesn't convince me. You may be super pissed off and have really angry soyjak avatars, but that doesn't make you right. You're still just a pissed-off retard.
uh sweaty, whats the long term risk of taking a novel MRNA gene therapy? this is such a common sense question but no covid vaccine supporter can ever give me a straight answer on this
 
Define "worked." We were promised it would make you immune to COVID, stop transmission, and end lockdowns.
I never heard that other than the "end lockdowns" part and those ended really quickly in non-fag states. Seriously, consider living in less retarded states.
uh sweaty, whats the long term risk of taking a novel MRNA gene therapy?
Apparently about nothing because retards have been swearing up and down I'm going to keel over dead any day now and absolutely nothing has happened.
 
Your anger doesn't convince me. You may be super pissed off and have really angry soyjak avatars
His name is cobson and he WILL always be a gem
Yeah I'm sure they just roll dice you fucking mongoloid sped. Somehow they've magically guessed right every year except for one of the last 30 or so.
This is common knowledge lmao. Also the flu shot can actually get a lot of people in densely packed environments sick due to viral shedding as well.
 
can you briefly walk me through your thought process at the time? im genuinely curious how "normies" perceived all of this (not calling you a normie but you get what I mean)

Basically I wasn't worried too much about what others thought of me since I could and would probably just lie and say I got it if the question arose, but (to me at least) they were putting out this idea that you wouldn't be able to do ANYTHING without presenting your papers. The thought did occur to me to get a fake card, but then the headache if I got busted didn't seem worth it.
 
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I never heard that other than the "end lockdowns" part and those ended really quickly in non-fag states. Seriously, consider living in less retarded states.

Yet another attempt at re-writing history. Crazy how every single one of you people engages in this. "What do you mean, no one ever said the vaccine would stop transmission!"

From a CNN town hall in 2021:

BIDEN: What they're telling me is let us decide based on scientific data and how we proceed. Do it the way we would ordinarily do it. Look, for example, everybody talks about how, you know, this virus came, this -- the drugs that are designed to kill the virus came along so quickly. They've been working on it for two decades. There's nothing quick about this. It's been over two decades.

So people say, "I'm not taking a drug that was approved so quickly." It's been two decades. The truth is, we haven't said it enough to people to allay their feels -- their fears. This is nothing that just happened yesterday and we said, well, let's take a shot on this.

And there's a process. Usually the process takes the better part of a year or more to get some of these things decided. But the expectation -- they're not promising me any specific date, but my expectation talking to the group of scientists we've put together, over 20 of them, plus others in the field, is that sometime maybe in the beginning of the school year, at the end of August, beginning of September, October, they'll get a final approval, saying the FDA said, no, this is it. It's good.

But, again, one last thing. We don't talk enough to you about this, I don't think. One last thing that's really important is, we're not in the position where we think that any virus, including the Delta virus, which is much more transmissible and more deadly in terms of unvaccinated people, the -- the various shots that people are getting now cover that. You're OK. You're not going to -- you're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.

Sorry to deboonk you, but you asked for it. Although I'm sure you will try and spin this into somehow not being what it clearly is. I look forward to seeing those mental gymnastics.
 
I almost got the vaccine when my job pressured me for it but I held off long enough so they stopped giving a fuck. I don't think I need it so no thanks. How much immunity do you develop from actually getting COVID? Is it better than getting pozzed by the shot at all? Or does just having COVID fuck you up forever?
 
I never heard that other than the "end lockdowns" part and those ended really quickly in non-fag states. Seriously, consider living in less retarded states.

Apparently about nothing because retards have been swearing up and down I'm going to keel over dead any day now and absolutely nothing has happened.
so in other words you cant really answer my question about long term side effects. gotcha

Basically I wasn't worried too much about what others thought of me since I could and would probably just lie and say I got it if the question arose, but (to me at least) they were putting out this idea that you wouldn't be able to do ANYTHING without presenting your papers. The thought did occur to me to get a fake card, but then the headache if I got busted didn't seem worth it.
oh man, thats really relatable. I had a lot of anxiety over what to do if they ever instated a vaxx pass. im sorry you got pressured into it in this way
 
@gang weeder lol that's a lot of reeing in your textwall

why are you afraid of needles?

edit: you're genuinely too stupid to grasp why covid pneumonia costs more to treat. that you hyperfixate on it and think it's a gotcha when someone doesn't source WHY it costs more is autistic. I'd say 'do research' but you're intellectually incapable of doing it. like how stupid can you be to not be able to infer that treatment for a highly infectious disease is going to cost more. like it' s common sense.
 
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This is common knowledge lmao. Also the flu shot can actually get a lot of people in densely packed environments sick due to viral shedding as well.
Well I guess tough shit for them.
so in other words you cant really answer my question about long term side effects. gotcha
My answer is nothing. And remains that. Come up with better sources than some Larry Fink BlackRock guy you suddenly believe for apparently no reason and without any principles.
 
Well I guess tough shit for them.

My answer is nothing. And remains that. Come up with better sources than some Larry Fink BlackRock guy you suddenly believe for apparently no reason and without any principles.
I dont need any sources to point out that its impossible to know if there will be long term side effects or not, by definition you cant know this unless you do long term studies, theres no shortcuts around this and just putting your head in the sand doesnt make it go away

you cant make an educated decision on the covid vaccine without taking into account the possibility of long term side effects (which is unknown since the shots were rushed and no long term studies were done)

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Well I guess tough shit for them.
Wait but I thought you were just telling me the flu vaccines are a resounding success that keep people from getting sick and they guess the strain right every single time?

Yet again, using tactical apathy as a cope after you get called out for not knowing what you're talking about
you're genuinely too stupid to grasp why covid pneumonia costs more to treat. that you hyperfixate on it and think it's a gotcha when someone doesn't source WHY it costs more is autistic. I'd say 'do research' but you're intellectually incapable of doing it. like how stupid can you be to not be able to infer that treatment for a highly infectious disease is going to cost more. like it' s common sense.
No, you are genuinely too stupid to properly source claims that you pulled out of your ass, and now that you're cornered you're trying to put the burden of proof on him to prove the claim that YOU made.
 
If both sides promise to not sperg out and post idiotic shit for one week I can explain why hospitals need more money when they deal with COVID and maybe shed some light upon how bad the COVID-related pneumonia is.
I wanna see the worst offenders (you know who you are) promise to not post anything stupid for a week.
 
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Wait but I thought you were just telling me the flu vaccines are a resounding success that keep people from getting sick and they guess the strain right every single time?

Yet again, using tactical apathy as a cope after you get called out for not knowing what you're talking about

No, you are genuinely too stupid to properly source claims that you pulled out of your ass, and now that you're cornered you're trying to put the burden of proof on him to prove the claim that YOU made.
WHERE R YOUR SOURCES BRO
 
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