Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

Slight aside, I've never known if these "griefing" threads were about grieving the loss of what people considered previously good franchises, or griefing people who still liked them, like you'd grief someone in a videogame in order to piss them off. The OP doesn't help clear things up either. Very confusing.


Since the intent is unclear, I'll just say I never understood Star Wars.
It seems like professional wrestling where it just activates some latent gene present in certain people's brains (and unlike with professional wrestling, rarely even in what appear to be fairly non-retarded individuals) that causes them to become obsessed.

I recall seeing Star Wars as like an 8 year old (which was decades after they came out to be fair) but at the time there was no hint that they were supposed to be special.
In some places they were a little gross and shocking, especially for a kid, but otherwise they were relatively forgettable.

The universe isn't that compelling, it mostly amounts to magical random "rule of cool" shit people have tried to slap logic onto post-facto to create the impression of grander lore and intent, the story barely reaches generic and serviceable.
The whole thing seems like a shallow exercise that was mainly designed to show off cool cinematography tricks of the time.

What causes it? Is it an issue of age? Are these mostly just 50 year old men who saw Star Wars as kids when other movies weren't doing that, and that's why they think they're special? Then other consoomers glommed onto that?
It's such a nothing, even the originals are just movies like any other. And now in modern day the brand functions as nothing but globohomo-approved bugmanchild feed.
Star Wars came out in a period of depressing sci-fi films. It had groundbreaking effects, good execution, passable writing, and well-casted characters. Everything about the original film just came together. The lore is definitely slapped on as most of it is from extended material, but it does answer lingering questions you might have from watching the OT. Add in a very marketable toyline, and you've got yourself something that will stay with some people forever.
TL;DR: You know how Forgotten Realms is the most generic yet the most well-known and used D&D setting? It's kind of like that.
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Slight aside, I've never known if these "griefing" threads were about grieving the loss of what people considered previously good franchises, or griefing people who still liked them, like you'd grief someone in a videogame in order to piss them off. The OP doesn't help clear things up either. Very confusing.

Yes.

Serious answer: I gathered the original purpose of the thread was talking about spoilers for the films and chimpouts when they were spoiled. Then the films became so bad no spoilers could ruin them and now we just laugh as Disney runs the brand into the ground and soyboys paypig to Disney while pretending to hate it
 
There was a time before TLJ dropped that I thought Star Wars could be saved. Then its was possible for it to be saved.
In retrospect the time after the shitshow that was the making of Rogue One, firing Lord and Miller from Soylo, and the Boba Fett movie fiasco, Star Wars was fucked. It was fucked when George signed Lucasfilm away in 2012. We just didn't see it.
Anyone who professes to really dislike Star Wars, and is being honest about it, is probably done with the franchise at this point. Not just the new stuff but all of it from start to finish.
You're right. But:
No one hates Star Wars more than Star Wars fans.
No one hates Football like NFL fans. No one hates anime like otaku. There is no group of people on Earth who cares more about Star Wars than Star Wars fans.
Anyone who professes to really dislike Star Wars, and is being honest about it, is probably done with the franchise at this point.
I feel like on some level even the people who dislike Star Wars still might enjoy the stuff like OT, the PT, Filoni Wars, or the EU on some level. I don't think they "dislike" Star Wars period as much as they hate what Disney has done with it.
Since the intent is unclear, I'll just say I never understood Star Wars.
It seems like professional wrestling where it just activates some latent gene present in certain people's brains (and unlike with professional wrestling, rarely even in what appear to be fairly non-retarded individuals) that causes them to become obsessed.

I recall seeing Star Wars as like an 8 year old (which was decades after they came out to be fair) but at the time there was no hint that they were supposed to be special.
In some places they were a little gross and shocking, especially for a kid, but otherwise they were relatively forgettable.

The universe isn't that compelling, it mostly amounts to magical random "rule of cool" shit people have tried to slap logic onto post-facto to create the impression of grander lore and intent, the story barely reaches generic and serviceable.
The whole thing seems like a shallow exercise that was mainly designed to show off cool cinematography tricks of the time.

What causes it? Is it an issue of age? Are these mostly just 50 year old men who saw Star Wars as kids when other movies weren't doing that, and that's why they think they're special? Then other consoomers glommed onto that?
It's such a nothing, even the originals are just movies like any other. And now in modern day the brand functions as nothing but globohomo-approved bugmanchild feed.
It can be difficult to understand the religious devotion to Star Wars if you A. weren't there when it came out 50 years ago or B. didn't grow up with it throughout your childhood. It's kind of the Seinfeld effect where everything that came after it was influenced by it so it might not seem special anymore. Even though a lot of SW content sucks ass (sorry) the original trilogy is still important as a piece of film history. The story and characters still hold up. The prequels are divisive amongst nerds online but innovated digital special effects at least. The Disney stuff is pure goyslop for manchildren.
 
It's been interesting to watch Doomcuck throughout the years, starting out by talking to Nerdrotic and the rest of his crew and slowly receding into his own little bubble where he still holds that Kathleen Kennedy will finally be walked out of Lucasfilm. It's ironic that he choosed to portray himself as a Saturday morning villain, because he is just as incompetent as one, and every episode ends exactly the same, with him shaking his fist as his "enemies" walk out laughing with another contract extension and movie deal.

Gary from Nerdrotic is the one that finally won in the end because he said early on that Star Wars was dead and thinking Hollywood would change is retarded.
 
Star Wars came out in a period of depressing sci-fi films.
Depressing and paranoid. The "clone wars" angle is a very 70's trope.

Gary from Nerdrotic is the one that finally won in the end because he said early on that Star Wars was dead and thinking Hollywood would change is retarded.
Gary "won" because he's ruthless and has no qualms with selling-out his friends when they're no longer useful, of which Disasterpenis was one. He also said Star Trek was dead and buried then did a 180-degree turn when someone with a bit more clout and access than him got screener copies for the latest Star Trek show. He appears to be 110% about playing the game.
 
Star Wars was special because it was the combination of two burgeoning fanbases, fantasy and sci-fi, which at the time, ran parallel to each other but had no work that had elements of both in common. Sure, some fans of Star Trek might also be fans of Lord of the Rings (LOL Leonard Nimoy RIP) but the two genres were basically separated by a chasm-that chasm being that sci-fi was the domain of futurists and people who looked down on things like religion and tradition, while fantasy was the domain of people who were traditional and religious. We see this in the difference between Lord of the Rings and Star Trek: the former is a medieval story of magic and mystery wrapped in Catholic religious ideology, the latter is a futuristic world that is barely religious, which then later evolves in TNG to be totally bereft of religious ideas.

Then Star Wars shows up and shows that you can combine both fantasy and sci-fi, combine religion and futurism in one work, and it covered itself with the futuristic technology thought up by people in the seventies, along with religious ideas and allegories. The Death Star was Goliath meets the Tower of Babel. Luke Skywalker in the X-Wing was akin to King David with his slighshot. Lightsabers are basically plasma Excaliburs, magical swords that special knights called Jedi are allowed to wield. The heroes' rescue of a princess against an evil wizard and his warlord ally hearkens to fairy tales read to kids worldwide.

But at the same time, it also had the high-tech aspect; of mankind being so advanced that taking a trip from one end of the galaxy to another is about as profound as taking a subway train from Queens to Manhattan. Mankind is so advanced that they can create large warships like Star Destroyers and even larger weapons of mass destruction like the Death Star; both of which are covered in more guns than you can count at a glance. Someone like Darth Vader, who survived a horrible injury in the past, is able to walk and talk like a regular human being thanks to the gifts of cybernetics and life-support systems. Even the Stormtroopers could survive in the vacuum of space with their mixture of medieval armor and life support helmets.

Star Wars combined these two formidable nerd kingdoms, the fantasy and the science fiction fans, and gave them something they could enjoy in common. It also did away with science fiction's meandering devotion to anti-traditionalism and futurism, with them even showing how that one Imperial who saw the Death Star as the strongest thing in the universe got silenced by a man who has faith in higher powers and who uses said powers to shut him up. The skeptic Han Solo who doesn't believe in the Force is proven wrong several times, first, by Luke learning how to deflect shots while blind, then by Luke blowing up the Death Star.

This of course, freed science fiction from it being the exclusive domain of people who looked down on religion and tradition, leading to future science fiction works that are also inspired by religion like Halo, Starcraft, and Mass Effect. This, of course, is something that some people never lived down, especially when they insist on calling Star Wars a science fantasy instead of a science fiction, despite sci-fi like Star Trek having more fantastical tech and metaphysical beings than Star Wars does. It doesn't matter how many times you call Star Trek science fiction or Star Wars a space fantasy, Trek technobabble and the Q are far more fantastical and unrealistic than anything Star Wars can throw at you.

So yeah, there's my reasoning why Star Wars is so popular. It took science fiction storytelling to the next level with its special effects, it combined two powerful nerd tribes into one, and it freed science fiction from the domain of meandering futurists and made it accessible for people who like to play Cowboys and Indians.
 
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Man it's been a while since I've checked in on my second journey through the EU.

Star by Star: was a SLOG. The majority of the intervening period was very slowly making it through this story. I thought I remembered liking it, but I went back to the old forum post from my youth before I finished the serious and was surprised that I didn't care for it back then either. I do remember thinking Denning was very Mid-tier, and part of my distain for continuing on post NJO, despite my Talifan distain for Travis, was that I thought Denning was the best of the team, and that was a bad sign. That was before my greater appreciation for Allston as an adult.

Dark Journey: is alright, Jaina is a little too efficient at besting the Vong technology, and her treading of the Dark Side feels very weakly portrayed, but overall it was a perfectly cromulent book. Back in the day I also gave it a pretty Mid raiting.

Enemy Lines I & II: Rebel Dream and Rebel Stand: I definitely have come with a greater appreciation of Allston in my revisit to the EU, however as a kid I considered these books mid and as an adult... I kinda still do. High Mid to Low Great. Everything on Borleias is fantastic, Allston's Wraiths are brought back in a good way, and he really sells the Republic stalling victory there. Changing Jaina's soft fall to the dark side as more of a defeatist PTSD works a lot better, and Allston continues well with the thread of her playing the Vong's trickster god. But the B plots kinda drag it out, Han and Leia's excursion to set up Resistance cells... doesn't really show that and instead feels like filler. Luke, Tahiri, Mara, and the Wraiths excursion to face Lord Nyax/that weird force kid from one of the lesser books... just doesn't work for me. Coming and going to Coruscant just doesn't work for me, the super cyborg Dark Jedi is a weird tangent. It feels like it adds nothing to the on going narrative, and very slightly diminishes it.

Next up is Traitor, Stover is my favorite EU author, and my hindsight was that this was my favorite book of the series, but looking back, as I was reading them, I actually liked Edge of Victory duology more. We'll see how it holds up.
 
Shit, this is thunk provoking. Watch a great movie yet support the Mouse, or miss what might be one of the last times to watch ROTJ in theaters? I've never seen any of the OT in theaters. IIRC Disney doesn't let theaters screen their old movies since Disney+ is a thing, especially not Star Wars. I haven't watched a SW movie in theaters since TLJ but I admit getting to watch any of the OT would be the only thing to change my mind.
 
Shit, this is thunk provoking. Watch a great movie yet support the Mouse, or miss what might be one of the last times to watch ROTJ in theaters? I've never seen any of the OT in theaters. IIRC Disney doesn't let theaters screen their old movies since Disney+ is a thing, especially not Star Wars. I haven't watched a SW movie in theaters since TLJ but I admit getting to watch any of the OT would be the only thing to change my mind.
Here’s the problem; it’s probably going to be the special edition. If I want to see Star Wars in theaters then I want to see the theater version of Star Wars.
 
Speaking of Filoni, I've noticed lately among normie circles, he's getting much more flak than usual for all the egregious cameos and shit he puts in. It's not too much criticism, but its better than how he is treated like this god who can do no wrong.

Though I saw this bat shit take from one of the former Channel Awesome guys who acts like Filoni would somehow clean up the sequel trilogy and make those films beloved like the prequels.
 
His name is Baylon Skoll and the woman's name is Shin Hati. They are named after Skoll and Hati, a pair of wolves that chase the Sun and Moon in Norse mythology.

He can't keep getting away with this.
Briefly touching upon the Punisher conversation: I've liked most of the live-action casting of Frank Castle. Thomas Jane, Ray Stevenson (fucking love Rome), and even Dolph Lundgren (guilty pleasure, that old Punisher movie). Jon Bernthal, though, well... I find his screams and grunts to be hilarious.



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That... has gone beyond parody now. I'm not sure if I have a reaction image or .gif for that that would properly describe my thoughts on this matter. I'll see if I can find one.
Wait, I found it:

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Or as I would like to call it, the perfect description for modern-day Star Wars.
Called it. Leave the great wolf of the space wolves alone in his yiffing chambers with a typewriter long enough and he will give you a thousand page script with detailed wolf drawings, wolf allegories and plots stolen from movies that had "wolf" in the title.

Remember, this is the man who unironically called his Star Wars self-insert "Trapper Wolf" (with wolves on his helmet and suit), retconned the Star Wars universe to be governed by wolf gods, retconned Force ghosts into wolves, retconned an enemy alien faction into space coyotes, retconned his favorite prequel jedi to be the leader of a wolf-themed faction of clones, and posted art like this on twitter that he made himself:
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The man's favorite author is Farley Mowat (a man who actually had sexual relations with his dog according to his autobio), his favorite kids movie is Jungle Book, his favorite movies are Never Cry Wolf, Princess Mononoke and Dances with Wolves and anything with Wolf in the title, and he keeps wolf paw prints in his office. Even when his shows lack any wolves, the plots are ripped from movies about Wolves or had wolf in the title like Lone Wolf and Cub. Ahsoka is his first show in years where he has absolute creative freedom, so you'd best be ready to have a shit ton of wolfisms thrown at you. And if ysalamiris aren't cut, expect them to be space wolves.
They say its for the anniversary, but I wouldn't be surprised if the real reason they are doing this is to promote the crossover between the "Mandoverse" and Ahsoka in HER Thrawn Trilogy which is supposed to take place after ROTJ. If they actually add more changes to the film like the Disney-special edition novelization did, it may hopefully cause a slew of problems and make people realize what a hamfister Filoni is.

And for anyone who isn't in the know, the Disspecial edition novelization of ROTJ that Disney released a few years ago for TFA retconned it so Ashoka and Padme were mentioned throughout the story and retconned the tale 3PO told the ewoks to be about Ahsoka and Space Aladdin rather than about Luke and Vader. Or how Filoni tried to retcon his Aladdin Rebels characters as having fought during the Battle of Endor and attended Anakin's funeral. If they actually are stupid enough to do all of this or even throw in Baby Yeed and more to satisfy Filoni's ego, it will be a laugh riot of fanfic-tier insanity that would put complaints about Hayden's ghost to shame.
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If you want an idea of how cucked the Star Wars fanbase is, think about how many times the fans were called racist sexist bigots for the pat 10 years, then realize this is what the makeup of Star Wars Celebration 2023 looks like:
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I guess but why keep supporting people who hate you anyways? It's the thought that counts. Even if you hate Disney Wars going to Celebration gives Disney money.
Don't worry too much. A large chunk of those faggots are reporters and the the usual online "lol so nerdy" influencers who are only there to document the event in the hopes of being the first to report something new and get some overnight e-fame. There's even some Doomcock-tier SW critics there as well because they think hatewatching something and telling others to hatewatch it will somehow make it better.

The remainder are the usual battered wife beta males, consumerists and wookiee-pedos that will never learn, as well as the people who never liked Star Wars until Disney made their own fanfiction material. They love the abuse because half of them want to be good allies and the other half are just sheep addicted to Doomcock-brand hopium thinking things will change if they keep buying because they have no life outside of collecting plastic and writing SWvsHALOvs40k fanfiction, and to give up and admit the thing they love has gone to shit would leave them broken, much like that sad bald cuck Star Wars Theory himself has admitted. Oh, and then there's the Ahsoka fans because she's the Disney Wars equivalent of an asian Pop Idol for lonely simps who will detest what Disney has done but remain loyal so long as the orange wife is safe and will ignore all other atrocious changes...
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All for the golden-orange idol on the mountain of feces.

Honestly just do what @Ghostse does and wait for all the cringeworthy photos of lolcows at the SW Celebration to start popping up and laugh at the masochistic fanboys dressed as slave Leia get tugged around by the one twitter influencer who would give them any attention.
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All one can do is sigh and wait for the last remaining piece of star wars related media worth still waiting for.
the hackfraudmedia review. Where's the review
Its been years now friend. I don't think he's coming back. All we have now is E;R.
 
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