Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

None of what you just listed are Warsaw Pact counties. Only East Germany explicitly supported the invasion and they did not send any soldiers.
Ok, whatever. Russian controlled then. The point is the Russians sent people from other countries to Afghanistan in the 80's.

I made a mission in ARMA 3 with the East Germans in Afghanistan once.
You're a charisma vacuum aye. You're a bit shit at banter aren't ya.

Anyways, seeing as this is now a Russia thread and you're all my slaves, who do you think is in a better position in regards to military matters? I demand responses.
Not as bad as you are at not acting like a retarded faggot on the internet.
 
A pair of classic Uzi's & a ronin journalist in Ukraine:
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Late, but I know this guy, he's an Indonesian trust fund baby
Name's Arnold Putra, a somewhat "shock influencer" that everyone here hates. He's infamous for making a bag using an actual dead kid's spine. No, I'm not joking
Indonesian net is still split whether he's actually in Ukraine or not, considering his track record
 
I lurk both threads and I've found the pro-ukie side to be the most rabid and vile in regards to the protentional loss of human life. You cunts are fuckin warped as.
Oh, really now? Pretty sure this thread is fairly tame compared to what I've seen from the denizens of the russiaboo containment zone. They cheer for the extermination and subjugation of Ukrainians, most people here just want Russia to fucking stop the objectively wrong thing that they're doing and go home - how is that comparable?
Even so, keep in mind this is essentially a home invasion scenario. I don't particularly care why the armed nigger entered someone else's house and started shooting people left and right, and it's self-evident that the only solution is removing them by any means necessary. The comparison might seem reductive, but it's applicable, because it's exactly what we have here.

Loss of life is in general tragic, but this is war. Death of Ukrainians defending their nation is a tragedy, while death of invading Russians is an unfortunate necessity by the virtue of being invaders. There's no moral equivalence, and responsibility for this lies solely on Russia. Because regardless of their justifications, all of this could've been avoided, all they had to do is simply not invade.

Is claiming that you're lurking both threads supposed to make you look objective?
 
Because regardless of their justifications, all of this could've been avoided, all they had to do is simply not invade.
Team Z has done a very good job propagandizing an invasion as a necessary action. George Bush would be proud of the job Putin did.

The problem as I see it though is Russia can only justify its invasion in the context of actually NEEDING Crimea, and to a certain extent Ukraine. Both were critical to Tsarist Imperial ambitions in the 19th century. 21st century Russia by context has entirely different issues.

I've always thought Russia needed to set more realistic goals. Instead of spending fuckloads of blood and treasure trying to take someone else's shit, why not instead spend that money doing something with the metric ass ton of land Russia already has. Instead of handing Russias young men a rifle and sending them off to Bakhmut to get slaughtered, why not give them a shovel and free land in the East, provided they actually live there and do something with it.

Maybe build a nice sod house with a fancy outhouse, home made sauna, find some girl and make lots of babies to help work the land. Maybe do this for a hundred years, reverse the population decline, grow your economy to something bigger then a single US states, and then maybe revist the whole empire issue.

It's honestly rather sad tbh.
 
Oh nice the thread got invaded anyways here a pallet cleanser 12 min of KRAKEN kino of mechanized assault of Novoselivske
 
I've always thought Russia needed to set more realistic goals. Instead of spending fuckloads of blood and treasure trying to take someone else's shit, why not instead spend that money doing something with the metric ass ton of land Russia already has. Instead of handing Russias young men a rifle and sending them off to Bakhmut to get slaughtered, why not give them a shovel and free land in the East, provided they actually live there and do something with it.
That's the question, isn't it. The short version, I suppose, is that people often make irrational choices. Especially when said people have a lot of unchecked power with no one to correct them.
 
That's the question, isn't it. The short version, I suppose, is that people often make irrational choices. Especially when said people have a lot of unchecked power with no one to correct them.
The history of the US Homestead Act and the Surveyors Corps should honestly be required reading in Russia.
 
I've always thought Russia needed to set more realistic goals. Instead of spending fuckloads of blood and treasure trying to take someone else's shit, why not instead spend that money doing something with the metric ass ton of land Russia already has. Instead of handing Russias young men a rifle and sending them off to Bakhmut to get slaughtered, why not give them a shovel and free land in the East, provided they actually live there and do something with it.
That the point you can't change the mentality of some pepole and cultures US tried in middle east to build something that whould resemble into a stable trading partner and we got a failing democracy and a failed nacion out there due unlike in Germany, Japan, South Korea and maybie you can count the whole eastern Europe as a side project due pepole there want to work and improve their lives and not bitch about how they are a perpetual victims and that the fall of our empire and rule was the worst thing that happend
 
Late, but I know this guy, he's an Indonesian trust fund baby
Name's Arnold Putra, a somewhat "shock influencer" that everyone here hates. He's infamous for making a bag using an actual dead kid's spine. No, I'm not joking
Indonesian net is still split whether he's actually in Ukraine or not, considering his track record
I hope the Russians or Ukranians pop his pimple head.
Team Z has done a very good job propagandizing an invasion as a necessary action. George Bush would be proud of the job Putin did.

The problem as I see it though is Russia can only justify its invasion in the context of actually NEEDING Crimea, and to a certain extent Ukraine. Both were critical to Tsarist Imperial ambitions in the 19th century. 21st century Russia by context has entirely different issues.

I've always thought Russia needed to set more realistic goals. Instead of spending fuckloads of blood and treasure trying to take someone else's shit, why not instead spend that money doing something with the metric ass ton of land Russia already has. Instead of handing Russias young men a rifle and sending them off to Bakhmut to get slaughtered, why not give them a shovel and free land in the East, provided they actually live there and do something with it.

Maybe build a nice sod house with a fancy outhouse, home made sauna, find some girl and make lots of babies to help work the land. Maybe do this for a hundred years, reverse the population decline, grow your economy to something bigger then a single US states, and then maybe revist the whole empire issue.

It's honestly rather sad tbh.
But if they wanted to set realistic goals that’d mean grifting less and putting in actual effort. Instead we could just invade a country that’s a fraction of our size and fellate ourselves for curb stomping them in their capital after three days of fighting.
 
I lurk both threads and I've found the pro-ukie side to be the most rabid and vile in regards to the protentional loss of human life. You cunts are fuckin warped as.
Look Russia, invaded Ukraine, a sovereign nation that's been independent since 1991. That's had its own culture and ethnicity.
If Americans did the same thing to Mexico I wouldn't be mad if the pro Mexico thread basically wrote cruel jokes about dead gringo policy makers daughters.

While it's sad that Russians are dying, the Average Ukrainian doesn't want to be a Russian and would like to fight and defend their land and livelihoods. Russia could have settled, instead they took a shot at the king and failed and are bogged down in a war. Now if they cut a peace deal right now and kept their territory it's still a win.
You're a charisma vacuum aye. You're a bit shit at banter aren't ya.

Anyways, seeing as this is now a Russia thread and you're all my slaves, who do you think is in a better position in regards to military matters? I demand responses.
You're A, dumb, B shitting up the thread trying to start shit, and C are doing the opposite of arguing in good faith and just trying to go for dumb bants. Anyways tell feline surpremacist that they will never be a real man and are a dumb pooner.
 
Russians cut off the head of a Ukrainian in Bakhmut and stuck it on top of a stick.

I am not posting the image here, its all over Twitter.
Because I don't believe anything without a photo...

https://t.me/horevica/10844 (can't archive because it won't display on web)
Found the picture that seems to match the description. From what I can tell, the Russians dispute ownership of the thing. Rather hard to identify with all the soft tissue gone.
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The screenshot appears to be the original source (?). Someone who speaks Russian might be able to confirm.
Yeah, last year there was hands and a head that was cut off and put on a fence, and a video a week ago of beheaded Ukrainians outside of a APC.
Video doesn't load properly in the archive. Claims to be a M113, something about beheading.
 
Link archives are mandatory whenever possible.
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Because I don't believe anything without a photo...

https://t.me/horevica/10844 (can't archive because it won't display on web)
Found the picture that seems to match the description. From what I can tell, the Russians dispute ownership of the thing. Rather hard to identify with all the soft tissue gone.
The screenshot appears to be the original source (?). Someone who speaks Russian might be able to confirm.

Video doesn't load properly in the archive. Claims to be a M113, something about beheading.
Damn. 1 year into this and we are already at the putting heads on pikes phase. Slavs are going to be screeching at each other about this war centuries from now, aren't they.
 
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