Both animation and anime fans are complete shit. I'd say western animation fans are terrible for not showing absolute faith in the medium, having to name the same basic bitch kids shows and movies and writing them off as examples as to why animation "is for everyone," and even if they're not naming kids shows or movies, they also name out the same animated sitcoms like Simpsons and Family Guy. This is why we no longer take animation seriously, and it's because of the community themselves.
Western Animation - Discuss American, Canadian, and European cartoons here (or just bitch about wokeshit, I guess)
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Super Sad Smile
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Someone uploaded all of the new total drama episodes in English. People are already putting it on youtube. Link
They changed the opening too
They changed the opening too
Tonight on Total Drama, Lindsay Get iPad while Gwen Get iPad.
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It makes sense, after all, why consoom the piss-weak imitation when you can just get the original?
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Apparently the offical Total Drama youtube channel got taken down. It was uploading full episodes of the old seasons
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Owl House was set up as a quirky Isekai adventure about being a rogue witch, but very quickly becomes generic Harry Potter fanfiction when Luz joins the magic school her mentor flunked out of. Like all Disney shows produced after Gravity Falls the season hints at a larger story and lore but spends most of the runtime being bog standard episodic shenanigans.
Dana spent her entire career at Disney shitting on Disney and thus had her grand plan of a five season show cut down to two and three specials.
The story is that a white Christian guy got stuck on the boiling isles and he is bad and Luz is the specialist girl ever and beats him.
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I have a friend that won't stfu about that stupid Owl House. Can't wait till she finds a different shitshow to simp for.
It's not even about owls ffs that's my MATI moment for today
It's not even about owls ffs that's my MATI moment for today
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Man I feel bad for the TDI fans having to get used to this new shit. That is, if they still care about this show post season 3.
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People forget that these shows are made by neurotic losers for petty, vindictive stunted adults who need their opinions validated by cartoons ostensibly made for children.
"You should talk through conflicts with 'fragile traditional values' - except when you shouldn't, because people who don't agree with you should be destroyed."
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I don't get what he's trying to say here. The latter is worse than the former? One of the reasons the Diamonds weren't killed was because they needed them to fix problems they themselves caused (and that it'd start another war essentially). Goopy Dude just seems like a generic threat that could've easily been banished and things would've been fine.
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She seriously planned it to be five seasons? That’s fucking dumb as shit, she should have read the room.
The only shows on Disney Channel to get to five seasons in the last two decades of them constantly making shows are Phineas and Ferb(which only got to 5 thanks to its recent revival announcement) and Doc McStuffins, which from what I understand was like their flagship preschool show at the time.
The original show that it was created through, Gravity Falls, ended after two seasons on its own terms, telling a story to its end. Amphibia, arguably the show’s “sister”, ended after three on its own terms, and did the same. The Ducktales reboot ended one season earlier than planned and caused them to have to mash their plans for the final two seasons into one, and even they managed to deliver a really, really good finale that hit all the right notes.
Expecting your show to rise above those ranks and be right there next to the megahit that was Phineas and Ferb in season orders is incredibly entitled and delusional. I don’t see how you can take a look across the studio at Ducktales, a show that was far more popular than yours, getting a season less than planned and going “Don’t worry, we don’t have to change anything! We’re still going to have the five seasons!”
Keep in mind, Star vs. was originally expected to have five seasons, but shaved one off due to a very similar reason. Now that show started out as a simple, yet decent (or, least I thought it was until recent years) episodic fish-out-of-water fantasy comedy with bouncier animation. But by the second season, it turned into some bullshit continuity show with less enthusiastic writing (and even animation).
It seems like most shows desperately want to ape whatever Hirsch did with Gravity Falls with bigger continuity based stories that writers and crew can't even finish for a 22-minute mark. I expected Owl House to fail and I'm glad I've gotten my wish, because it was just another meandering and manipulative modern day animated kids show that manchildren eating gummy bears enjoy. And still fuck that fucking twat cunt Dana Terrance.
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is anybody seeing broken images or is it just me?
SU is about running from your mistakes, blaming others for said mistakes and hurting others caught in the crossfire until you can't run anymore and face it in the ugliest awkward way possible. Fighting would have fixed 50% of SU's problems. The other 50% is better animation/boarders/writers.
I'm all for not rewarding assholes if the crimes don't justify the wrist slap, but somehow it sound hypocritical in this case?? And I didn't watch the owl house finale so I don't kno I could be wrong.
the image is blurry for me for some reason but I can still read it.
SU is about running from your mistakes, blaming others for said mistakes and hurting others caught in the crossfire until you can't run anymore and face it in the ugliest awkward way possible. Fighting would have fixed 50% of SU's problems. The other 50% is better animation/boarders/writers.
I'm all for not rewarding assholes if the crimes don't justify the wrist slap, but somehow it sound hypocritical in this case?? And I didn't watch the owl house finale so I don't kno I could be wrong.
yeesh. I don't know if that sounds like delusions of grandeur or letting go issues. Or its both wrapped in consoomerism. Better to let it come and go than let it linger and be an annoying burden.
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Anyone remember this bullshit? I swear I only remember this very faintly and I love skater bro.
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Fake outs like this makes me appreciate endings like FullMetal Alchemist's even more.
Why can't characters go through risks, consequences and permanent choices these days?
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I hated this Encanto too. Like the ending where the family lost their powers over badly managed family drama but gained understanding felt like reasonable ending. Maybe the real miracle was the family and community the magic allowed build and prosper and now they can continue that on their own. Horrible price for knowledge but underlines importance taking care of daily lives to avoid horrible consequences while being still happy enough ending for a kids film. Nope, they got their powers too because... I don't know, they came together?
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Better then Raya’s “just blindly trust everyone all the time, especially the person who fucked you over twice when you trusted them, because believing in people always no matter what is good, even though there’s been plenty of incidents where it’s been shown why blindly trusting everyone is fu King stupid” moral.
I just wanted to shit on Reya & The Last Dragon, tbh.
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This scene. It broke me.
Just look at of how shitty those flying glyphs look.
It is amazing to me that in three-ish season, the use of magic never evolved past what was established in the first couple eps, and how utterly unearned this powerup feels because she's never been shown using or strugling with magic.
It's a gripe I have with fantasy in general, where magic exist and is a big part of the world, but the story treat it as unimortant at worst and a flashy comodity at best.
Owl House is just such a bad offender of this. It takes zero advantage of the magic in it's world.
What's even more frustrating os that it actually did establish rules and limitations for it, somewhat. To do magic you need to draw a circle, the bigger the circle the bigger (powerful?) the magic. Alrighty, you can do something with that, like the characters finding ways to make the circles bigger. They even utilised this at the start! Like Eda using her staff to draw them bigger, Luz drawing a circle with Amity's legs.
Then when Luz discovers the light glyph, the symbol kinda ate the paper she drew it on, and later when she drew and activated it on a wall, the wall went with it. I thought; cool, she can use this when she gets trapped or something. She just draws the glyph on the wall, it eats the wall, she can escape.
Maybe it's just me,but I thought this was meant to establish something? Like that magic still needs a source of fuel? Equivalent Exchange?
That would mean the spells Luz would use would need foresight, which is kinda, the perfect counter for a character that was established to be impulsive and not thinking things trough.
More so, a huge selling point for the show at the beginning was that Luz couldn't make her own magic and would need to find alternative ways to do that. The character that got characterised as an outcast, for being too creative, has now a chance to grow because she's creative, but nah.
She doesn't do anything with Eda, then goes to school where we never see her do anything either - like, it's theorethically a great source of conflict, Luz would reaaaaally need to getcreative here to keep up with her peers, but naw, once the show gets her to school it only focuses on things that are going on outside of it. (Not to sidetrack, but what the everlovingfuck are abominations? You need to cook them, but you can also engineer them? In one of the special Amity finds some of the stuff on the ground, so can it be found in nature? How sentient is that thing?)
Other issue of this is how Eda, who brgs all the time about being able to use all types of magic, never uses them. The fact that her usage of magic is versatile is what's supposed to make her the most powerful witch on the Boiling Isle's right? So powerfull that Belos wants to recruit her. Does she ever use anything else but flashy blasts? Is she just the strongest because she can punch the hardest? (Imagine her doing abomination magic)
Then her powers drain up and...nothing. Nothing in her life changes. Cause she never used that shit in the first place.
They make the most use with her curse, so much so that it's even something that's significant to the overall plot. One point for TOH.
Then they just smack you in the face that the five or so glyphs are all that is, don't expect anything more. Just fuck off.
The glyph combinations is too broken to be interesting, becaus ethere is zero rules attached to it and is used as much as anything, but by this point you have already been made understood that magic counts for shit in this magical world so you're already numb to dissapointment.
So yeah, what difficulties did Luz encounter with her limitations as a human? Was there any truggles, any improvements, any growth in her skills? Something, anything that would make the power-up satisfying or a conclusion to her conflict?
The wasted potential just makes me sad. .
Just look at of how shitty those flying glyphs look.
It is amazing to me that in three-ish season, the use of magic never evolved past what was established in the first couple eps, and how utterly unearned this powerup feels because she's never been shown using or strugling with magic.
It's a gripe I have with fantasy in general, where magic exist and is a big part of the world, but the story treat it as unimortant at worst and a flashy comodity at best.
Owl House is just such a bad offender of this. It takes zero advantage of the magic in it's world.
What's even more frustrating os that it actually did establish rules and limitations for it, somewhat. To do magic you need to draw a circle, the bigger the circle the bigger (powerful?) the magic. Alrighty, you can do something with that, like the characters finding ways to make the circles bigger. They even utilised this at the start! Like Eda using her staff to draw them bigger, Luz drawing a circle with Amity's legs.
Then when Luz discovers the light glyph, the symbol kinda ate the paper she drew it on, and later when she drew and activated it on a wall, the wall went with it. I thought; cool, she can use this when she gets trapped or something. She just draws the glyph on the wall, it eats the wall, she can escape.
Maybe it's just me,but I thought this was meant to establish something? Like that magic still needs a source of fuel? Equivalent Exchange?
That would mean the spells Luz would use would need foresight, which is kinda, the perfect counter for a character that was established to be impulsive and not thinking things trough.
More so, a huge selling point for the show at the beginning was that Luz couldn't make her own magic and would need to find alternative ways to do that. The character that got characterised as an outcast, for being too creative, has now a chance to grow because she's creative, but nah.
She doesn't do anything with Eda, then goes to school where we never see her do anything either - like, it's theorethically a great source of conflict, Luz would reaaaaally need to getcreative here to keep up with her peers, but naw, once the show gets her to school it only focuses on things that are going on outside of it. (Not to sidetrack, but what the everlovingfuck are abominations? You need to cook them, but you can also engineer them? In one of the special Amity finds some of the stuff on the ground, so can it be found in nature? How sentient is that thing?)
Other issue of this is how Eda, who brgs all the time about being able to use all types of magic, never uses them. The fact that her usage of magic is versatile is what's supposed to make her the most powerful witch on the Boiling Isle's right? So powerfull that Belos wants to recruit her. Does she ever use anything else but flashy blasts? Is she just the strongest because she can punch the hardest? (Imagine her doing abomination magic)
Then her powers drain up and...nothing. Nothing in her life changes. Cause she never used that shit in the first place.
They make the most use with her curse, so much so that it's even something that's significant to the overall plot. One point for TOH.
Then they just smack you in the face that the five or so glyphs are all that is, don't expect anything more. Just fuck off.
The glyph combinations is too broken to be interesting, becaus ethere is zero rules attached to it and is used as much as anything, but by this point you have already been made understood that magic counts for shit in this magical world so you're already numb to dissapointment.
So yeah, what difficulties did Luz encounter with her limitations as a human? Was there any truggles, any improvements, any growth in her skills? Something, anything that would make the power-up satisfying or a conclusion to her conflict?
The wasted potential just makes me sad. .
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Then they have the nerve to get mad at people actually critiquing a film they like on its own merits and throw out "it's for kids" excuse.
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That's one of the reasons i started writing.
One of the premises of my project is killing s main character and provoking a civil war afterwards. No options, no alternatives; a pure time miscalculating with hope in the sky done entirely the main objective of the protagonist and his team.
Along with other permament choices and subsequent consequences, there's always a risk.
Isn't that hard to understand? Man, even ATLA had a specific power-up with energy bending but i don't think that's plot armor: is a very poor written plot point.