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This is all off topic, and sounds like a bad recruiting pitch for the Army. Did your recruiter tell you this was the only way you could vote in a Federal election? Are you posting from a team house in Ukraine right now?
The reason why drones will be used more in the future is because they're cheap and can easily handle a few pounds of C4 and shrapnel and become far more destructive especially to crowds of people.
The real benefit they offer is the ability to penetrate defenses and provide continuous FMV to the operator, allowing for tactical patience and target verification. Anti-terrorist measures are mostly fences and concrete barriers to keep truck bombs a safe distance from buildings. But that's now an outmoded way of thinking, or at least an incomplete way of thinking. If McVeigh could have killed the head of the ATF instead of their daycare, wouldn't he have done that?
@Standardized Profile - you have to think about it, imagine a few gunman and a few explosive laden drones. Now imagine some soft and medium sized targets with casualties. Maybe a college football game, European football match, heck maybe even a high school basketball game. Imagine The 2015 Paris concert shooting but amplified, instead of a few hundred dead imagine casualties in the thousands, the beslan massacre would look like a picnic.
I banged a Samoan girl here in the US, that's not true. She had no problems just hopping on a plane and coming here to the US midwest. They can't vote but they get US passports and can move here the same as people from Puerto Rico.
american samoa has some very based laws where like 90% of its territory is classified as "native land" and it is legally forbidden to transfer ownership of native land to anybody who is not a full blooded native samoan
cartels dont need to bother with any of this shit, they can (and regularly do) simply send a handful of violent dudes to murder whoever they want dead
but youre right, drones could potentially be a big deal for targeted assassinations against high profile targets (it's probably easier to fly a drone into the presidents bedroom through the window rather than break into his house and shoot him yourself)
but we're not seeing a lot of those sadly, barely any at all
It's pretty nuts to imagine a drone lying in wait somewhere possibly for days if not weeks to attack a VIP passing through or entering the building. You could set up explosive ambushes with that.
It's one thing to plant bombs, it's another when they learn to fly. Now that I think about it, it's kinda weird it's not used more around the world for assassination and the like, but I suppose that's about to change.
This kinds of makes suicide bombers obsolete, no? Or you reckon religious zealot is still cheaper than a plastic Chinese drone?
@Standardized Profile - you have to think about it, imagine a few gunman and a few explosive laden drones. Now imagine some soft and medium sized targets with casualties. Maybe a college football game, European football match, heck maybe even a high school basketball game. Imagine The 2015 Paris concert shooting but amplified, instead of a few hundred dead imagine casualties in the thousands, the beslan massacre would look like a picnic.
Remember that assassin drone video from years ago?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Which is already being done by the Chicom military, and the Taiwanese are on it as well...
But I expect to see kamikaze drone swarms used in Ukraine first, probably soon; and once done a lot of state & individual bad actors are going to take notes.
Unfortunately for them, EW equipment and taktiks that work against single or small groups of drones are also effective against large numbers of them. It's just a matter of scale
And with drones generally being slower and less maneuverable than both conventional fixed wing aircraft and many models of military helicopters, which all kinds of different and effective weapons systems already exist to fight... hold off on the drone swarms for a while
Don't mistake drunk Ivan huddling under his cope cage with his 1970s tech with a Western or even Chinese soldier and the toys he has to deal with drones
Unfortunately for them, EW equipment and taktiks that work against single or small groups of drones are also effective against large numbers of them. It's just a matter of scale
And with drones generally being slower and less maneuverable than both conventional fixed wing aircraft and many models of military helicopters, which all kinds of different and effective weapons systems already exist to fight... hold off on the drone swarms for a while
Don't mistake drunk Ivan huddling under his cope cage with his 1970s tech with a Western or even Chinese soldier and the toys he has to deal with drones
Never understood the hype about the drone swarms either. There are already handheld drone jammers and basically, drone swarms would only be useful in terror tactics, that is, putting pressure on the population to give up or hunting lone soldiers (much like drones are used in this war). You can just have a EW station acting as area denial and boom.
... with drones generally being slower and less maneuverable than both conventional fixed wing aircraft and many models of military helicopters, which all kinds of different and effective weapons systems already exist to fight... hold off on the drone swarms for a while.
Unfortunately for them, EW equipment and taktiks that work against single or small groups of drones are also effective against large numbers of them. It's just a matter of scale
A year ago I would've agreed, but the thing with hand-held jammers is they work like rough beams & can only target them on an continuous individual basis. Area-effect jammers are available, but man portable versions are limited in range & power; their presence is also easily detected, and such detection sets are in common use with both sides, and they can either avoid or target anti-drone EW sets with... wait for it....
drones.
Edit: Fun Fact- they are basically the same thing used to detect & locate cellphone signals, modified to detect the 5.8G transmission bands used by drones.
But meanwhile, software, transmitters, & hardening against EW has improved vastly over the past year, now commercial drones (except for cheap basic ones) don't just drop from the sky when they lose signal; they can remember where they are if jammed/interfered with and RTB or continue to a designated target, and can automatically switch to any number of channels if one or more are jammed/spoofed. These systems were originally developed & used on the civilian market to prevent expensive drones from being lost.
Don't mistake drunk Ivan huddling under his cope cage with his 1970s tech with a Western or even Chinese soldier and the toys he has to deal with drones
When the fine an Ivan smart to use them, they seem to be working well enough on the best equipped Ukrainians, which are NATO proxies anyways. And the average chink soldier will just stand & stare until the drone-death hits them, just like they do during their regular jobs or commutes.
But in seriousness, soldiers and Marines I talk to who are also into drones (on the job & hobbyists) are fairly terrified of drones & swarms; even taking into account our alleged tech & budgetary superiority. And if they're terrified, I expect they know more about current capabilities than I do. If 20 autonomous drones with 5-gram explosive charges are launched at a squad, MG position or vehicle and 3/4 of them are jammed, a squad of soliders or vehicle is still going to get plastered.
But like I was saying my knowledge is already out of date, and even a year ago civilian & military researchers/manufacturers were shoehorning fire-&-forget software/AI into smaller autonomous drones; by now it's not restricted to expensive Switchblades anymore, and the Ukrainians have been developing/stockpiling them by the metric fuckload from around the world.
Also... even as a poor Western hobbyist, I've noticed that lately it's kind of difficult to find some drone components not because they don't exist, but because they're being hoovered up by Ukraine & frens. The Russians have also noticed, and they are very worried; earlier ITT I posted some of the conversations from Russian soldiers & milbloggers on their fears of Ukrainian drone swarms during the expected offensive.
Bellingcat found the leaker. He is a 21 year old Air National Guardsman who shared the leaks on his Discord group called Thug Shaker Central to impress a group of teenagers.
Edit: Bellingcat investigator Aric Toler said this on Twitter:
"(Found him through his Steam profile, will write a step-by-step on the process at some point)"
The issue with murder bot swarms is machine vision is still expensive, slow, and energy hungry to put in a small enough package. Marking gps coordinates for a simultaneous drone bombing on the other hand...
Bellingcat found the leaker. He is a 21 year old Air National Guardsman who shared the leaks on his Discord group called Thug Shaker Central to impress a group of teenagers.
Vatnik in the Taiwan thread is telling me America is too weak to defend Taiwan and America knows it. I don't even know how to talk to these people, they live in an alternative reality.
Bellingcat found the leaker. He is a 21 year old Air National Guardsman who shared the leaks on his Discord group called Thug Shaker Central to impress a group of teenagers.
Vatnik in the Taiwan thread is telling me America is too weak to defend Taiwan and America knows it. I don't even know how to talk to these people, they live in an alternative reality.
Holy shit this kid's life is over, same for the idiots who spilled the tea on 4chan. WTF were they thinking. This kid had access to this type of sensitive info at 21, he had an amazing career ahead of him. WTF, I feel bad for him because his career and his freedom will soon be distant, painful memories. All at 21, what a waste.
Never understood the hype about the drone swarms either. There are already handheld drone jammers and basically, drone swarms would only be useful in terror tactics, that is, putting pressure on the population to give up or hunting lone soldiers (much like drones are used in this war). You can just have a EW station acting as area denial and boom.
It's more of idea that without a dedicated EW radar jamming the area of it they whould be able to swarm an individual units who may or may not have one of anti drone rifles like this. In plus they might be GPS guided chould work as a smart motar round like a switchblade only on mass scale
Edit: Bellingcat investigator Aric Toler said this on Twitter:
"(Found him through his Steam profile, will write a step-by-step on the process at some point)"
Vatnik in the Taiwan thread is telling me America is too weak to defend Taiwan and America knows it. I don't even know how to talk to these people, they live in an alternative reality.
