Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[CuzinEd]

@mindlessobserver

Bet nobody here knew how fucking horrific the USA treated the American Nationals on one of its Pacific Conquests. In my humble opinion the number of sons Samoa has sent to die in service of our bullshit wars is proof enough of their worth for Statehood, or to at least be added to Hawaii.

We have enough niggers voting for Democrats. We don't need island niggers doing it as well. If they are dumb enough to join the US military and fight for ZOG that's their problem.

Holy shit this kid's life is over, same for the idiots who spilled the tea on 4chan. WTF were they thinking. This kid had access to this type of sensitive info at 21, he had an amazing career ahead of him. WTF, I feel bad for him because his career and his freedom will soon be distant, painful memories. All at 21, what a waste.

He isn't a kid. You are legally an adult at 18. He is just retarded.

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I wonder long they'll lock him in the rape dungeon (prison) for the leaks. Totally worth it to impress retards on your discord server bro.

I can imagine the screeching was heard all the way out in space. Probably made its way to some distant planet and was picked up by aliens. They probably laughed.

To be fair, Trump almost certainly did much worse with secret documents, with malign intent, and has so far gotten away with it.

Trump didn't do a thing with any secret documents. The president can declassify anything he wants.

 

[DumbDude43]

I genuinely feel like Orban, Trump, Lepen and the rest of their brand of populist right wingers either recive funding or blackmail threats from the Kremlin. They relentlessly suck Putin's cock for seemingly no reason, there must be something behind the scenes.

a lot of euro right wing politicians are/were dependent on russian funding for a long time, partially because many of them are so thoroughly deplatformed and marginalized by their own states (and have been for decades) that they don't have many alternatives

plus there's the classic enemy-of-my-enemy effect. the main enemy is the liberal left, that same liberal left is very vocal about opposing russia, so in response these people naturally sympathize and align with russia

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

This whole thing is just a psyop to more closely regulate social media. The media didn't report it was leaked on the internet, they reported it was leaked on social media. I'm surprised they haven't gaslit the American people into believing this was leaked on tiktok

Man, there's no fixing these people at this point. How does one live in a world where everything is a conspiracy to deceive them?

As for killer drones, imagine that shit with sophisticated face-recognition AI software.

 

[EyeGuy]

I genuinely feel like Orban, Trump, Lepen and the rest of their brand of populist right wingers either recive funding or blackmail threats from the Kremlin. They relentlessly suck Putin's cock for seemingly no reason, there must be something behind the scenes.

I'm not a euromutt and I don't like commenting on issues that I have no firsthand knowledge of, but nevertheless I get the feeling that the Hungarians are still assblasted over Trianon and are pretty transparently doing everything they can to worsen the Ukrainian position (e.g. agitating about muh "oppressed Magyar minority", obstructing sanctions) in the delusional hope that Ukraine will break up so they can regain some of their former territories.

 

[Coffee Mugshot]

Update from the nytimes says the guy who leaked shit faces up to ten years per document:

[Attorney General] Garland’s description indicates that Teixeira will be facing charges under 18 U.S.C. 793, also known as the Espionage Act. It criminalizes the unauthorized removal, retention, and transmission of closely held documents related to the national defense that could be used to harm the United States or aid a foreign adversary. Each such document would be its own charge; a conviction carries a penalty of up to ten years in prison per count.

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[Fortyone]

a lot of euro right wing politicians are/were dependent on russian funding for a long time, partially because many of them are so thoroughly deplatformed and marginalized by their own states (and have been for decades) that they don't have many alternatives

plus there's the classic enemy-of-my-enemy effect. the main enemy is the liberal left, that same liberal left is very vocal about opposing russia, so in response these people naturally sympathize and align with russia

Reason #9000 to hate deplatforming. I suppose it makes sense when the Nick Fuentes types in the world who have been (unjustly, even if they're retarded) deplatformed and debanked suddenly start chugging Russian cum, I guess it's all they can do. I just wish people thought about the issue logically instead of just blindly siding with a Russian horde invading Europe just because biden is pro-Ukraine.

I'm not a euromutt and I don't like commenting on issues that I have no firsthand knowledge of, but nevertheless I get the feeling that the Hungarians are still assblasted over Trianon and are pretty transparently doing everything they can to worsen the Ukrainian position (e.g. agitating about muh "oppressed Magyar minority", obstructing sanctions) in the delusional hope that Ukraine will break up so they can regain some of their former territories.

They definitely have an inferiority complex over Trianon, I remember there was some delusional zigger maps released early in 2022 that showed western Ukraine divided between Poland Romania and Hungary, which probably gave Hungarian nationalists a hardon. I think the Russians wanted to psyop the Poles into hating the Ukrainians as well (over Wolyn and other historic issues) but failed badly.

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

Update from the nytimes says the guy who leaked shit faces up to ten years per document:



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Seems like being retarded really sucks.

Reason #9000 to hate deplatforming. I suppose it makes sense when the Nick Fuentes types in the world who have been (unjustly, even if they're retarded) deplatformed and debanked suddenly start chugging Russian cum, I guess it's all they can do. I just wish people thought about the issue logically instead of just blindly siding with a Russian horde invading Europe just because biden is pro-Ukraine.

Agree regarding deplatforming, it certainly doesn't help and makes rejects congregate in obscure circlejerks that make them even more obnoxious whenever they resurface.
As for chugging Russian cum, if they're dumb enough to do it in the first place, then that was probably always going to happen regardless.

 

[Crex Crex]

Bellingcat found the leaker. He is a 21 year old Air National Guardsman who shared the leaks on his Discord group called Thug Shaker Central to impress a group of teenagers.

And the Oscar for "biggest retard of 2023" goes to...

 

[No. 7 cat]

NATO has had no ammo for months according to Copelord. Ergo Russia is unable to beat an enemy that's had no ammo for the best part of 6 months, how embarrassing.

Even without ammo NATO weapons are scary and dangerous for the average moskal head chopper. I wonder how Armchair Worrier is posting again. Surely this likely sex offender (like Dougan, Phillips and Ritter) shouldn't be using the internet, but Russia must desperately need native English speakers with some military nous. Armchair Worrier seems a retard, but there's no Court documents or reports of a scandalous dismissal or conviction a simple web search away, so a step above Ritter or Dougan.

 

[Oxyjen]

Got to say, if these internet autists really found him via this keffals-trolling-grade picture analysis, while the NSA and CIA were still standing around with their dicks in their hands, Brandon should award them some kind of medal.

 

[AgendaPoster]

I'm not a euromutt and I don't like commenting on issues that I have no firsthand knowledge of, but nevertheless I get the feeling that the Hungarians are still assblasted over Trianon and are pretty transparently doing everything they can to worsen the Ukrainian position (e.g. agitating about muh "oppressed Magyar minority", obstructing sanctions) in the delusional hope that Ukraine will break up so they can regain some of their former territories.

They're doing that riling up of Magyar minority thing basically in all the former territories of the empire, and it annoys everyone from Croatia to Slovakia to Romania, which just today had the trillionth news item of a Hungarian politician, in this case the president, Katalin Novak, coming in an unofficial position to visit some city where some statue to a dude that wrote the Hungarian national hymn was raised. This was considered a provocation by local grug types, which came to protest, and Ms. Novak went to their group, inflaming them further and angering her secret service protection. Happens quite often, from the Great Hungary maps to these visits to eternally moaning about minority rights (just one minority).
No neighboring country official goes to Hungary to do this shit and provoke, so it's quite one sided. Most of these countries have been trying to put the imperial crap in the past and coexist as Europeans, but Hungary is set to stir shit up which is absolutely stupid and pointless, as it's a 9M country that is in NATO surrounded by NATO allies.
I get the Trianon stuff, I have quite a bit of Hungarian and German blood and the area I was born in is very diverse, but I'm not big on destabilizing things for the sake of, well, nothing.

 

[Clownish]

I'm not a euromutt and I don't like commenting on issues that I have no firsthand knowledge of, but nevertheless I get the feeling that the Hungarians are still assblasted over Trianon and are pretty transparently doing everything they can to worsen the Ukrainian position (e.g. agitating about muh "oppressed Magyar minority", obstructing sanctions) in the delusional hope that Ukraine will break up so they can regain some of their former territories.

I really don't understand how Hungarian nationalists could ever side with Russia after WW2 and 1956.

One of the most famous Ukrainian/Hungarian drone commanders is Magyar and he wrote this a couple months ago to Orban.

Listen to me, you stinking pig!

Come to Bakhmut. Tell the Hungarians in Transcarpathia, who are now at war, that you are planning with Putin to partition Ukraine.
Your penis has been in that part of Ukraine for a long time.
Not all Hungarians think like that.
Remember how the tyrants and usurpers of power end up. The closest example is the Romanian dictator Ceausescu.

 

[Oxyjen]

 

[SDK]

Update from the nytimes says the guy who leaked shit faces up to ten years per document:

[Attorney General] Garland’s description indicates that Teixeira will be facing charges under 18 U.S.C. 793, also known as the Espionage Act. It criminalizes the unauthorized removal, retention, and transmission of closely held documents related to the national defense that could be used to harm the United States or aid a foreign adversary. Each such document would be its own charge; a conviction carries a penalty of up to ten years in prison per count.

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His best case scenario is 20-30ish years. If he handed over or sold documents directly to Russia he is beyond fucked however. A life term in a federal prison isnt that bad I guess.

 

[jalopy]

To be fair, Trump almost certainly did much worse with secret documents, with malign intent, and has so far gotten away with it.

Storing them in a Secret Service secured location?
I remember he tweeted out satellite surveillance pics that basically proved the 30cm resolution of American spy satellites. Dumb, but different from releasing docs for doots on discord of all places.

I genuinely feel like Orban, Trump, Lepen and the rest of their brand of populist right wingers either recive funding or blackmail threats from the Kremlin. They relentlessly suck Putin's cock for seemingly no reason, there must be something behind the scenes.

Spoiler: PolitiSperging

Russia definitely plays fucky wucky with support for fringe political elements, but it’s a distance more to say they have blackmail material or serious financial grunt in active force. Le Pen has been Le Pen forever, slightly moderated recently to the point she receives flak from her right. Macron by himself is already far more conciliatory to Russia than much of the rest of Europe and has beaten Le Pen twice in elections.

Orban’s behavior has everything to do with hating the EU propensity to stick their nose in all his corrupt practices. Like kicking out a bunch of lefty NGOs a few years back to prevent a fifth column developing and giving his unqualified long term friends big government contracts. Asides that, Hungary’s energy issues would be a big enough political reason to push for lower sanctions by themselves.

That Trump is blackmailable at this point is plain tard tier. He ass has been rotoscoped by politically connected prosecutors at every level of the United States, and European friends. The best they have is maybe he used the wrong bank account to compensate his lawyer for paying off an extortionist whore.

Their best tax fraud case was that one of the executives in the Trump Org listed his children’s day care benefits as tax deductible.

It beggars belief that anyone can believe that Russia, coal potato of a nation it is, is able to payoff people worth >eight figures.

As for support, Trump’s base is the same base that feels spurned by two failed foreign conflicts, the 2008 financial crash, and globalized manufacturing. He doesn’t need to have taken Russian money or be threatened by blackmail, he just needs to respond to the majority opinion of his base. Which is “something, something, war bad, money stay home good”

 

[WhiteNight]

The Media just said that there is a video of him at the shooting range. He looks at the camera, yells racist and antisemitic slurs then fires his gun at the target.

He is sooooo fucked, the media is going to eat him alive.

It's not just him. I foresee this being used as a pretext to launch a full ideological purge of all the armed services. Anything you've ever said can and will be used against you.

 

[siegemeister675]

It's not just him. I foresee this being used as a pretext to launch a full ideological purge of all the armed services. Anything you've ever said can and will be used against you.

I used to think the military is on our side. Pretty scary if they totally fill it with progressive loyalists. But will they be able to fill it? The official line on the left is still that the US military is a racist, imperialist power, the people they want don't want to be in it.

 

[Fuck It We'll Do It Live]

It beggars belief that anyone can believe that Russia, coal potato of a nation it is, is able to payoff people worth >eight figures.

Russia is a petrostate; up to the sanctions of 2022, Russia could easily throw that amount of disposable cash around, they had enough of it to not put into their armed forces and instead spend it on gigantic palaces for their leadership. It's maybe not enough money to influence a major US political figure but for the average far-right (or nutty far-left) European political candidate for the EU parliament or something, even six figures is plenty.

 

[No. 7 cat]

That's about how many "advisors" were first sent to Vietnam. You know, just to observe and advise. How'd that turn out?

The US murder of the great Ngo Diem Thuc, a great leader whom Ho Chi Minh rated highly with a following of fiercely loyal Vietnamese Catholics (the Jesuits gave Vietnam its alphabet), a vast number of wildly restrictive rules of engagement and a failure to manage the news cycle (the Tet Offenskve was a military defeat for the Commies but leftist journos made it a victory for them) turned Vietnam into a needless defeat. The US and the Vietnamese people should have won this war they inherited from France. Later wars showed lessons were learned.

Putin with his fight to the last gopnik and ethnic minority actually makes it simpler. Uncle Ho was cunning. Putin seems to have had a lobotomy.

 

[WhiteNight]

I used to think the military is on our side. Pretty scary if they totally fill it with progressive loyalists. But will they be able to fill it? The official line on the left is still that the US military is a racist, imperialist power, the people they want don't want to be in it.

The military is being assimilated same as everything else:

There's increasingly pervasive affirmative action: Lloyd Austin as SecDef, Charles Q. Brown Jr. and JoAnne Bass in the Air Force, etc.

Let's not forget about Mark Milley's "white rage" comment, or this ad from 2021: