Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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vtmk is struggling with the pain

feeling like i can’t cope with the pain

i’m so tired of waiting for both of my legs to heal and for it to be excruciating every time i walk. the fact i already went through this a month ago and now have to redo all the pain and healing from getting the dead muscle removed out of my graft has me so defeated. the pain meds only make it a bit bearable and don’t take the pain away.
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Dumb bitch still hasn't realized that she has the rest of her life to look forward to this kind of pain. She screwed up her perfectly healthy legs at a young age and now will be lucky to get full function back without pain. She should be glad she didn't lose the damn leg and has a chance to walk, but she'll have to accept she butchered herself through her stupidity to chase that gender dragon.


One troon like her insists that you can't call this mutilation because you can't consent to body mutilation. Therefore, since he consented to be butchered, you can't say he was mutilated. (A)
Just a reminder for anyone being told their mutilated: mutilation cannot be consensual.
by UselessAltThing

Greetings. I'm a twenty year old agender person. As part of my transition I had my genitals fully removed (I just have a completely smooth sexless crotch now). Because I'm somewhat public about this fact I've been told a lot that I was mutilated, especially since I had the surgery so young.
Here's an important reminder for anyone who might get any type of medical transition, or anyone who says this stuff: mutilation is something that only happens without your consent. If you consent to something it isn't mutilation.
Your body is your personal property. You decide what is done to it, and you decide how you feel about it. It is not public property that you must take care of for other people's benefit. That means the only person who can decide if your medical transition was something bad done to your body is you.



As for sensation. One troon is annoyed his penis nub is too sensitive and asked for help on reddit to alleviate his issues. One troon simply said he should be grateful he has sensation at all. (A)
Hypersensetive Clitoris Help
by Deep_Cryptographer90
Hi everyone. I am 5 months post op, and my clitoris still so sensetive, I feel it constantly even if I am not aroused or touch. There is nothing see wrong apperance ( no bulging or something) but it feels all time rigid when I touch or not. I have read some topics on erectional tissue but it doesnt seem like that because it does not get bigger or hinder dilation etc. dont know what is the problem, is it need more time for it to settle? Im looking for advice, thank you.

KSLONGRIDER1
I’m just a couple of weeks behind you in postop and mine started to noticeably become less sensitive in the last few weeks. I think this is probably a YMMV situation and my surgeon said it could take as long as a year for everything to settle down. Best of luck!!


stephanie1957
I just had this discussion last week with my pelvic therapist. I had my surgery 4 1/2 months ago. I had been telling her that it feels like, if I may be blunt here, that I still had my old equipment and I was walking around with it hanging out of my zipper all the time. Always felt like a throbbing semi erection all the time. She put her fingers down by where my thigh meets my crotch on the left side and pressed which hurt like hell. I guess when they do the surgery the nerve "cable" going to your new clitoris runs alongside or within a muscle there??? Anyway she had me start massaging to stretch the muscle once a day for only a few seconds and you know what? a week later it is a bazillion times better.

Icy-Yogurt-Leah
Just be thankful that you have good sensation!
It will probably calm down over time but if it doesnt then I'm sure you can get it denerved or something but i would say that's an absolute last resort.
Some of us have very little or no sensation at all and that is a risk if you have further surgery on it.
 
Why did his ass migrate north to his waist? This is the most bizarre body shape I've seen that isn't a deathfat. (inb4 "historical eunuchs": stinkditch owners are technically eunuchs too, they don't get this misshapen.)
If I understood that correctly, that hoke isn't his anus. His anus is in its regular place
FFS. Was the split dick done by a surgeon or did he just do that to himself? What surgeon would even do that?
He did it himself like they all do from that sub
 
Otterley gave a good summery. Peripheral nerves has some capacity to repair themselves— to an extent. It’s also possible to graft nerves (from non-essential sites on the body, usually from the lower leg, or less commonly cadaver donation) in an attempt to restore function because of injury, but it’s specialist surgery and technically difficult. Results vary. It’s definitely not a plug-and-play situation. Troons are delusional and the butcher-surgeons mislead them.

Slightly OT: If a motor nerve is autotransplanted, extensive therapy is needed to persuade the nerve to work in situ. Essentially you have to learn to trick the brain to get it to act as the one is has replaced. Patients often report transferred sensation. It’s quite fascinating.

Yeah, sensation depends on the surgeon’s skill, dumb luck, and how much you’re able to convince your brain to play along.

Nevertheless it’s nothing like having an actual penis, since we’re talking about different nerves.

In the best case scenarios, these dumb broads only get pressure sensation.

So any sex act is usually them furiously thumping their rotdog backwards, so the buried clitoris gets manipulated under the skin.
Dumb bitch still hasn't realized that she has the rest of her life to look forward to this kind of pain. She screwed up her perfectly healthy legs at a young age and now will be lucky to get full function back without pain. She should be glad she didn't lose the damn leg and has a chance to walk, but she'll have to accept she butchered herself through her stupidity to chase that gender dragon.
Really a prize cow of a dumb pooner. Dead muscle can, along with nerve pain, be some of the most painful things known to man. The whole Dr House plot line wasn’t just grabbed out of thin air.
 
I think it was on an r/Askreddit thread regarding most messed up subreddits. I do wonder do trannies also have this clear self hatred towards their genitalia to cut, although they have professionals do it, but go about it in a different way. Is it like a Mauchausen by self thing? In that subreddit they're are like 5 different ways to cut your genitalia and they compare the approaches like trannies do with RFF or abdominal phaloplasty. Again, it's majority men in the meat subreddit but here we see lots of women undergoing phalloplasty. Dunno I don't care enough to think beyond 'WTF is that shit'.
Manchausen's syndrome
 
Like you say, nerve damage can heal in strange ways.
Peripheral nerves has some capacity to repair themselves— to an extent.

So, I have an anecdotal account.

The chemo I had gave me peripheral neuropathy, known side effect. It's bilateral across feet and hands. My feet, I can't feel anything from the balls of my feet to the tips of my toes, top or bottom. This has been tested a few times post chemo. As there's still nerve damage where there are nerves, they misfire. Stabbing, shooting or burning pain is very common, alleviated somewhat with lidocaine patches and gabapentin.

My hands, have numb spots and I suffer from spasms.

Yes, nerve damage can heal, but most will be in the first few months to a year or so.

Transplanting a nerve, which is what this is, is more akin to shuffling around an arm and leg and expecting the foot to grasp and the hand to act as a foot.
 
So any sex act is usually them furiously thumping their rotdog backwards, so the buried clitoris gets manipulated under the skin.
R/FtM - The Most Manly Masturbation.

Attached is a video of a pooner helicoptering their elongated clit cover to get rotational pressure on her subterranean lady scraps.

Your comment made me think of this so you all must now, too.
 
Nov 9 2022: Now she wants to take legal action against Brassard. She says she went to Brassard to get a skin graft done to remove the hair growth inside her urethra (which resulted in urinary issues discussed above) and wait to "close it up" (reconnect phallo and neo-urethra) until making sure no hair was growing.

This part is odd. How would a skin graft solve the hair issue, and what does she mean by "closing it up"? Was it like... unrolled?

vtmk is struggling with the pain
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feeling like i can’t cope with the pain

i’m so tired of waiting for both of my legs to heal and for it to be excruciating every time i walk. the fact i already went through this a month ago and now have to redo all the pain and healing from getting the dead muscle removed out of my graft has me so defeated. the pain meds only make it a bit bearable and don’t take the pain away.

i dread waking up every time i try to sleep or nap because i know it’s gonna be a struggle to get out of bed and how painful it’s gonna be. i just wanna cry and i feel like the pain is never ending

This is more evidence of something I've noticed with troons in general, which is a failure to grasp that all the parts of one's body have functions and that they perform important activities. For troons it's all appearance and nothing else; your body itself is just fungible meat lego.

In this case this woman seems unable to conceive that the muscles in her legs are not just "there" but that they have a function (helping you walk, among other things) and so she is surprised and frustrated that muscles in her legs dying will still cause problems once the dead muscle is removed.

She seems to have thought that once the dead muscle was carved out, she would be be fine (it's just losing a chunk or two of meat lego, after all!). Even now, she thinks the pain is simply a result of not having "healed" after surgery and doesn't even suspect that the pain and reduced mobility could be long-term.

The level of basic delusion that makes you think that you can rearrange the human body into changing sex should immediately disqualify you from consenting to any cosmetic procedure.
 
your body itself is just fungible meat lego.
I like this metaphor. This kind of attitude is common among the kind of dumb people who believe what they see on television or in movies. Character gets injured or sick, goes to hospital, doctors do science-magic, all is as it was before, happily ever after. These idiots don't realize that the human body is very complex and specialized and major surgery or severe injury will have permanent consequences, the severity of which depend on many factors. A good surgeon is like a good engineer, when asked how some hypothetical procedure would work out, he answers: "it depends".
 
Please tell me some mercenary third world surgeon did this. Whoever did should have their medical license revoked and be in jail. This person should be in a mental institution.
Dudes like this are the reason "secret community of home butchers" is in the thread title. I'm just surprised he isn't more "bear" like though, most of them seem to be like that, oddly enough.
Ah, the bisected cock brings me back to the days of amateur surgeons on BME. Better times when radical body mods weren’t being willingly done by everyday doctors.
Bingo.
Poor guy probably has to have !!!PRIDE FLAG!!!! EUNUCH!!! right above his weird ken doll crotch at this point, just to signal that he is not another delusional "queer" woman lurking around the bath house. At least he's just insane, and not fully delusional. That's right, this guy who had his own dick cut off is more sane and reasonable than the pooners and hons in this thread lol
One troon like her insists that you can't call this mutilation because you can't consent to body mutilation. Therefore, since he consented to be butchered, you can't say he was mutilated. (A)
Cool, I guess anorexics and people in seriously abusive relationships and anyone else in a shitty dynamic or stuck in a cult or in a bad way or mentally ill and eating out of trash cans, who thinks "I guess this is ok?? Maybe I deserve it?? Am I doing this right?" is ~~consenting~~ to it. Stupid bitch
R/FtM - The Most Manly Masturbation.

Attached is a video of a pooner helicoptering their elongated clit cover to get rotational pressure on her subterranean lady scraps.

Your comment made me think of this so you all must now, too.
"Lady scraps" is right up there with "rot dog." *Chef kiss*
 
Please tell me some mercenary third world surgeon did this. Whoever did should have their medical license revoked and be in jail. This person should be in a mental institution.
Can’t see how it’s worse than the regular troon surgeries. At least it’s not overreaching with its capabilities. No horror cavern, etc.
But no, these type of fucks are usually more the “home butcher” sort, who we don’t see so much ITT, despite its title.

The argument for offering genital surgery at all, before polite society became affirmation based, used to be “we have to do it because these nuts will try it themselves- unsafe!”
I say let them have at it, they usually do an equal or better job, as they are mostly focused on removing only, and the addition of the hole is where problems start.
Most will just suffice with the back door, adding up the risk reward ratios.
The ones that do try to make a hole- well, at least no one else was complicit or confidence tricked that something that worked was on its way to them.

As for the FTMs lmao let them just try to build a pole.
They will do what they always used to- make/buy a good fake, or learn to love their roid clit micro shenis.

It’s the glimmering offer, the lie that it’s possible which is most distasteful.

An hero didn’t an hero til the ipod was invented to be lusted for and lost.
 
This dumb Ayden is pissing from a fistula from behind her "scrotum" and is wondering when her waterworks will return to normal:

Dumb_FTM.jpg


Fistula

I’m pretty sure I have a fistula behind my scrotum. :( there’s already wound separation there, so I know it will take time to heal. I’m very disappointed though as I am 4.5 weeks post op and thought I was past fistula development window. The majority still came out of my phallus, but maybe 10 - 15 drops came out of my fistula. How long did it take y’all to heal your fistulas.

She's been asking the same question in a lot of subreddits and unsurprisingly she's gotten very little engagement:

Dumb_FTM2.jpg

 
Pooner has some interesting anecdotes showing the snowballing effect of FTM surgeries.
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Go your own pace.

Some anecdotes about my decision to pursue phallo. Post Hysto, Pre Dick. (Wasn't sure which flare to put this under)

For most of my life, bottom dysphoria didn't occur to me because I couldn't see past my chest. I was so dysphoric over my top that I was adamant about having "no dangly bits, top or bottom". I told my parents that, told my family doctor, told Berli when he did my top surgery in 2017.

It took me 2 years after top surgery to realise I had no connection with my lower half. I don't acknowledge that part of my anatomy.

It took another 1.5 years to realise I will never be comfortable with intimacy in my current body. I would be trying to find a life partner if I had a dick. I want to grow old with a dick.

5.5 years later I had my hysterectomy, this March. The surgeon called me directly to say how shocked they were, because they found out on the operating table that my bits were smaller than a cutie orange, and they couldn't get anything through the hole. There was never a reason for an exam, so nobody knew I had a congenital defect down there. All of my bleeding was from cutting through that complication, not the hysto.

I'm currently scheduled for social intake at OHSU next month. I'm working, in the last year of college, and having hilarious transition conversations with my family.

My mum is infinitely curious about the nitty gritty surgical details. We talk about all the ways my designer dick can be constructed.

My dad is wildly uncomfortable but very supportive. I numb him with humour. He can't take my dick jokes. I told him "I don't want a 9 inch schlong and moose knuckles, I just want an average flaccid twig and berries."

One grandmother is mortified when she calls me "he" on accident and leaves drunk voicemails about "the Lord setting you back on the Ladylike path".

My grandfather is trying his best to support me without upsetting his wife of 60 years. He doesn't understand, but he accepts because he can see I'm happier.

The other grandmother is lovingly jealous because no one told her she could cut her boobs off when she was younger, and they won't let her do it now.

Everyone has a different support system, people who love and people to lose. Everyone's got a different path, and awareness hits at different stages.

I want to encourage everyone to go your own pace and make decisions you'll be happy growing old with. That's what I tell folks when they ask how I know. When they ask if I'm sure. If you aren't sure yet, take care of yourself by taking all the time you need.
 
The surgeon called me directly to say how shocked they were, because they found out on the operating table that my bits were smaller than a cutie orange, and they couldn't get anything through the hole. There was never a reason for an exam, so nobody knew I had a congenital defect down there. All of my bleeding was from cutting through that complication, not the hysto.

please someone help me understand.

a cutie orange? a hole? that complication?

WHAT IS THIS POONER TALKING ABOUT

I have been reading this part over and over again and I am still at a loss.
 
please someone help me understand.

a cutie orange? a hole? that complication?

I would think she's talking about her vaginal opening, and how the dumbass was so obsessed with simply chopping her tits off that she never went to a gyno, and thus never found out she has a smaller than normal one.

WHAT IS THIS POONER TALKING ABOUT

I have been reading this part over and over again and I am still at a loss.

At this point we'll need to have a new thread created; The GRS sergical/troon lingo thread.
 
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