Poa.st / Chudbuds.lol General Discussion Thread - !! Poa.st and Bae.st have been compromised, all direct messages have been leaked. !!

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All drama aside, where is someone supposed to go if he wants to be able to interact with everyone and also be able to say the nigger-word?

- Chudbuds is dead
- KF.cc can see but not interact with Poast
- Poast cannot see nor interact with KF.cc

What other choices do we have? Apart the obvious that would be making your own instance.
I heard of Freespeechextremist and Shitposterclub but I don't know what they're worth.
I think no matter what you do, it is going to be tough to find someone who is as neutral and transparent as Josh.

Chudbud's leak shook me as to how vulnerable the fediverse is, as it demonstrated how an admin not practicing digital hygiene can impact his entire userbase. Mix that with how the fediverse is, as Josh put it in MATI, little fiefdoms where the admin can set up rules to feed his narcissism, and you will have a problem if you are trying to find a free speech fedi that respects your privacy.

The "admin being dicks" problem isn't new, but I think user privacy is a new factor as free speech decentralizes.
 
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I think no matter what you do, it is going to be tough to find someone who is as neutral and transparent as Josh.

Chudbud's leak shook me as to how vulnerable the fediverse is, as it demonstrated how an admin not practicing digital hygiene can impact his entire userbase. Mix that with how the fediverse is, as Josh put it in MATI, little fiefdoms where the admin can set up rules to feed his narcissism, and you will have a problem if you are trying to find a free speech fedi that respects your privacy.

The admin being dicks problem isn't new, but I think user privacy is a new factor as free speech decentralizes.
Don't worry, Revolver will fix this. It's coming out any day now. :)
 
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Chudbud's leak shook me as to how vulnerable the fediverse is, as it demonstrated how an admin not practicing digital hygiene can impact his entire userbase. Mix that with how the fediverse is, as Josh put it in MATI, little fiefdoms where the admin can set up rules to feed his narcissism, and you will have a problem if you are trying to find a free speech fedi that respects your privacy.
I had never really thought about it, because I just see no use in the Fediverse for myself personally, but it's obvious when you stop any think about it.

Big business, for all its faults, often has auditing teams and contractors that ensure updates are installed, and protocols are put in place. Audits are conducted to improve compliance - it isn't perfect, and there are fuck ups as with all organisations, but the point is for large companies like Twitter and Facebook their incentives to not fuck up mean that they are willing to put the resources in place for this.

If you've got a Fediverse, the people running them vary from people like Jewsh who take it seriously, and know a thing or to, to this brown tooth idiot who is retarded and has no consideration for protection of personal information of users. Never considers what could happen.

Therefore, when we talk about decentralisation of certain services the drawbacks are - in my opinion - much worse than the benefits unless they have a centralised security architecture or something.
The "admin being dicks" problem isn't new, but I think user privacy is a new factor as free speech decentralizes.
The US has utter shit laws for protection personal information in some states, so they can just put their servers somewhere where this kind of stuff is legal. You do this in the EU or the UK you get sued, fuck, Chudbuds would be fucked if it was over here because they clearly didn't put in place reasonable measures to protect information. US needs to catch up on this shit - it's ridiculous.
 
All drama aside, where is someone supposed to go if he wants to be able to interact with everyone and also be able to say the nigger-word?

- Chudbuds is dead
- KF.cc can see but not interact with Poast
- Poast cannot see nor interact with KF.cc

What other choices do we have? Apart the obvious that would be making your own instance.
I heard of Freespeechextremist and Shitposterclub but I don't know what they're worth.
I hate to say it, but the dream of a cool Kids Club house on the internet is dead. No matter where you go and who you talk to, the people will eventually turn out to be weird and fucked up in unpleasant ways. Shit sucks on repeat.
 
Graf going to war with @Null over gay drama while refusing to acknowledge that both of them are basically in the same boat when it comes to being able to freely operate on the internet is more infuriating than funny. To repeat what I said on Poast, people like Graf who operate tech/web sites that are considered on "the fringe" due to their refusal to submit to Current Year™️ community and editorial standards should heed the words of Ben Franklin.
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I think no matter what you do, it is going to be tough to find someone who is as neutral and transparent as Josh.

Chudbud's leak shook me as to how vulnerable the fediverse is, as it demonstrated how an admin not practicing digital hygiene can impact his entire userbase. Mix that with how the fediverse is, as Josh put it in MATI, little fiefdoms where the admin can set up rules to feed his narcissism, and you will have a problem if you are trying to find a free speech fedi that respects your privacy.

The "admin being dicks" problem isn't new, but I think user privacy is a new factor as free speech decentralizes.
Self-hosting is your best option. There's docker images. Supposedly it's very easy to do.
Fediverse is supposed to allow you hosting for yourself, family and/or close friends. Unfortunately, due to how complicated that can be (even ignoring the political/controlling BS) it's not an easy task, and it can't become an easy task. At minimum, being vigilant for security can become a full-time job.

Ted is always right, and for this topic, in particular: post-industrial revolution, the skills are far too specialized to start from scratch everytime. We have to find ways to work together, but egos will always get in the way.
 
Wouldn't that make you an easy target for doxing unless you were paying for hosting anonymously with crypto?
biggest threat would be your domain name whois but almost all domains offer private whois nowadays.

if you're afraid of getting doxed, yeah, I guess just stick to registering to other people's shit. if you're afraid of getting doxed have no internet presence.
 
biggest threat would be your domain name whois but almost all domains offer private whois nowadays.

if you're afraid of getting doxed, yeah, I guess just stick to registering to other people's shit. if you're afraid of getting doxed have no internet presence.
Thanks for the response. I think self hosting a Fediverse instance looks tricky to people who actually try to practice good OpSec because assuming most legal speech is allowed, it requires being a lot more vulnerable than browsing without an account or even making an account on another instance. Even if someone has excellent OpSec practices, what about their moderators? For those of us who are relatively normal people with day jobs, all friends are normies with bland opinions that we met in real life, etc. how would you even go about finding someone trustworthy to help? How do you handle attention from law enforcement/government when someone using the site inevitably fucks up?

I'm not trying to be a doomer or spread FUD. These are genuine questions that I am asking in earnest because I am interested in hosting an instance. That being said, going through with it is only worthwhile if done correctly. I've seen plenty of attempts at websites that allow socially unpalatable speech crash and burn at this point. Too many to not try my best at due diligence before even making an attempt.
 
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if you're afraid of getting doxed, yeah, I guess just stick to registering to other people's shit. if you're afraid of getting doxed have no internet presence.
Don't forget fediverse is full of schizos, and those tech spergs that bother making their own instances are even more of a schizo than others. They could easily track all your actions through their webserver logs. So, either use a VPN or at least stick to those instances that have mediaproxy on (KFcc does).
 
For a personal instance you’d just disallow open registration and not have to deal with random users causing issues.
Apparently I am retarded because I didn't even think about that option lol.

Maybe my post will be worth it if some of these questions get answered for anyone trying to build some kind of community that does not have compelled speech policies, which is something that should be commended.
 
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@Null to notify you the real reason behind your de-federation was the work of @Comrade_Pond and Ryan Johnson aka Randbot2020. They have been in Graf's ear advocating for your disposal for many months. Its been their primary goal, Rand has much influence on poast. His stated reason is merely an excuse, Rand probably put the pressure on hard enough and he caved. They are lots of backdoor deals around the Randbot-Poast crowd. When Randbot says "dramaniggers" he means you and your users.
 
I mean Rand has been crying butthurt about his jew wife's big honkin schnoz being an emoji on .cc for literally a year at this point. Even when I was still talking to Ralph, he got on voice once and yelled at me about how he lives in a country where what he says is illegal and if the government wanted to arrest him they could.

I understand and respect a person's desire for anonymity, but people like rand are willing to sacrifice more essential freedom of speech to protect themselves specifically. Rand is willing to go on air and wave around the Nazi flag and talk about impregnating anime girls and "total nigger death" and how he wants a final solution to Jews and that the holocaust didn't happen but should have, but only if people are forced to pretend he didn't dox himself years ago.

Btw, poasties who are particularly mentally defective like to complain the forum is either left-wing or "doing the fed's job for them" by doxxxxxxing right-wing podcasters. I always assumed they meant someone actually interesting or intelligent, but knowing it's probably Rand makes more sense.
 
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