Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

I can't remember if it was this thread or the star trek one, but I remember everyone giving me shit because at the time I thought star wars was better then star trek in terms of rot. Because star trek had been wholesale neglected and mismanaged for something like 20 years. And we still got some table scraps at least for star wars.

And then boom suddenly they made something worth a dam with the whole original cast back and it's amazing how fast the wheel turns.


Say what you will, it took them 7 shitty seasons and 3 mediocre movies but they managed to do what star wars couldn't.

"They shat on my face constantly in the last decades and my mouth is permanently tasting shit but hey, they gave me a lolipop, I think things are finally looking up"
 
"They shat on my face constantly in the last decades and my mouth is permanently tasting shit but hey, they gave me a lolipop, I think things are finally looking up"
I didnt even give them the dignity of sailing the high seas.

My mentality If I see something good and everyone agrees it's good im going to support that over everything else that is crap.

Boycotting the bad shit and watching the good shit does tend to work (unless your Disney)
 
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I still haven't sat down to watch it in full. All I know is they got everybody back together on screen and they made it so almost every character has a kid or lasting legacy.

So basically the opposite of Luke.

Fair.
Except Disney did give Star Wars fans Digitzombie Luke fighting dark troopers for nearly two minutes.
 
If Mandalorians are Space Jews and the Empire is Space Nazi Germany, does that make Mandalorians who sided with Empire the equivalent of George Soros?

Maybe the author is onto something. Return to a land you say is historically yours and encroach on the populace already living there? "This is the way."
 
Mandos aren't space jews.

That's Toydarians, Hutts, Ferengi, and of course, Jews in Space!
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If Mandalorians are Space Jews and the Empire is Space Nazi Germany, does that make Mandalorians who sided with Empire the equivalent of George Soros?
I suppose so. Heck, with the way Tiber Saxon talks, it sounds like something Soros might say:
He doesn't give a rip for his own people's culture, he'd be happy to drown them all so long as he got his.

Maybe the author is onto something. Return to a land you say is historically yours and encroach on the populace already living there? "This is the way."
I suppose Moff Gideon's counterattack against the Mandalorian fleet is the equivalent of an Intifada rocket attack against the Israelis? If you look at him and squint, Giancarlo Esposito can easily play as an Arab leader.
 
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If Mandalorians are Space Jews and the Empire is Space Nazi Germany, does that make Mandalorians who sided with Empire the equivalent of George Soros?

Maybe the author is onto something. Return to a land you say is historically yours and encroach on the populace already living there? "This is the way."
2010 TV series the EVeNT whole premise was this and CBS had marketed the genocidal xenos as the good guys. Even with them killing humans nilly-willy on screen cause of REEEing over humanity taking their place on Earth. Long after the xenos had left Earth when the human species didn't exist yet.
 
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Counter Point: No one on TNG had a cocaine addiction

They managed to give Trekkies the cast they wanted in a season that only shits on the fan ocassionally. Anyone still watching is a zero-standards consoomer addicted to nostalgia - if cutting a check to a bunch of Senior Citizens to put on costumes does it for you. And Picard is dead and some sort of super pay worthless robot that can still die.
But no one can argue that is more than Star Wars got, and that is sadly the best treatment of any major SciFi/Fantasy property since.... Season 7 of GoT?

So I guess congratulations on finding a packet of peanuts in that turd.
Yeah I don't get why the bigger YT critics who usually rip shit like this apart are defending season 3. So what if it's mediocre and trying to recreate the memories? This happened after they had Picard die and get turned into a soulless robot that unplugged Data's life support as he begged to die.

That still happened, no matter how hard you try to discontinuity it. Picard is a zombie robot who cried about his mommy from decades ago. That can't ever be undone, and those idiots are smoking crack for trying to justify watching this shit again just because the old cast was back.
 
Also, has anyone caught on to the fact that Gideon's plan with the Mandalorians is essentially the same plan Desann and Galak Fyyar had back in Jedi Outcast?
-Experiment with Force-sensitivity
-Create army of heavily-armored warriors inspired by multiple sources
-PROFIT/BRING ORDER TO THE GALAXY/WIPE OUT THE JEDI OR MANDALORIANS


The only difference is, at least Desann and his forces gave Luke a decent workout. I'm sure that if he showed up on Mandalore in Season 3, he'd fucking annihilate everything Gideon worked so hard to build without a sweat. Meanwhile, Desann back in Jedi Outcast actually fought Luke to a standstill, and gave him the slip. His forces were actually a challenge for seasoned Jedi like Kyle Katarn, meanwhile, the only result I can see if you pit Gideon's beskar troopers and royal bodyguards against someone like Kyle Katarn would be a repeat of the Massacre at Galidraan.

That, and wiping out the Jedi is far more prestigious than say, wiping out the Mandalorians. The Jedi are a symbol of the Old Republic and open defiance to the Emperor; the latter of whom needed to create a fake war where he controlled both sides just to get rid of them. The Mandalorians were a foe that the Imperials crushed and annihilated as if it was a joke. In the old canon, they easily moved in and enslaved the Mandos, and the old canon last story with the Mandalorians had them on their last battle on Botajef, where Imperial Stormtroopers annihilated their army. In the new canon, the Empire crushed their forces conventionally, then they nuked the Mandalorians for teh lulz.

Wiping out a small fleet that has what appears to be the last of the Mandalorians would be a minor accomplishment for Moff Gideon, but I hardly think that would be the kind of rallying victory that would get the rest of the Empire behind him; if Galak Fyyar won against the Jedi, the Imperials would've rallied to his banner.

Counter Point: No one on TNG had a cocaine addiction

They managed to give Trekkies the cast they wanted in a season that only shits on the fan ocassionally. Anyone still watching is a zero-standards consoomer addicted to nostalgia - if cutting a check to a bunch of Senior Citizens to put on costumes does it for you. And Picard is dead and some sort of super gay worthless robot that can still die.
But no one can argue that is more than Star Wars got, and that is sadly the best treatment of any major SciFi/Fantasy property since.... Season 7 of GoT?

So I guess congratulations on finding a packet of peanuts in that turd.
Maybe because fans of the franchise made the Picard stuff? I mean, grab some fans of the movies, and Star Wars can do just as well.

But considering that Trek is owned by Paramount, and Paramount ain't exactly immune to woke nonsense, I don't think this will last that long.
 
Yeah I don't get why the bigger YT critics who usually rip shit like this apart are defending season 3. So what if it's mediocre and trying to recreate the memories? This happened after they had Picard die and get turned into a soulless robot that unplugged Data's life support as he begged to die.

That still happened, no matter how hard you try to discontinuity it. Picard is a zombie robot who cried about his mommy from decades ago. That can't ever be undone, and those idiots are smoking crack for trying to justify watching this shit again just because the old cast was back.
They aren't ripping S3 apart because Matalas actually likes Star Trek and wanted people to watch his show so he let them watch the season early so that people would actually watch the show. If he hadn't most of the critics like Nerdrotic, Az, and Dave Cullen wouldn't have even hate watched the season. But Kikeman is pissing away all the good will Picard S3 has given him and is pushing forward with his high ESG score Starfleet Academy show staring that obese ginger bitch.
 
I suppose so. Heck, with the way Tiber Saxon talks, it sounds like something Soros might say:
He doesn't give a rip for his own people's culture, he'd be happy to drown them all so long as he got his.
Did anyone else think that Tiber Saxon was intentionally made to look like glowie Richard Spencer? He had blond hair (with a shaved side and comb over), blue eyes, and his surname is based on the ancient Germanic people 🤔
 
They aren't ripping S3 apart because Matalas actually likes Star Trek and wanted people to watch his show so he let them watch the season early so that people would actually watch the show. If he hadn't most of the critics like Nerdrotic, Az, and Dave Cullen wouldn't have even hate watched the season. But Kikeman is pissing away all the good will Picard S3 has given him and is pushing forward with his high ESG score Starfleet Academy show staring that obese ginger bitch.

So what you are telling me is that they are sell outs 🤔

Sounds about right with critics of any kind, even the "pro fan base" ones.

At most I expected a "It's not awful but it's far too late now" but most of them are saying "TNG is back!" As if the last few decades of nu-trek didn't happen.

And at that moment I realized that we get what we deserve if we have the memory span of a goldfish
 
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So what you are telling me is that they are sell outs 🤔

Sounds about right with critics of any kind, even the "pro fan base" ones.

At most I expected a "It's not awful but it's far too late now" but most of them are saying "TNG is back!" As if the last fee decades of nu-trek didn't happen.

And at that moment I realized that we get what we deserve if we have the memory span of a goldfish
SW fanboys being less retarded than Trekkies
nothing new
 
I can't remember if it was this thread or the star trek one, but I remember everyone giving me shit because at the time I thought star wars was better then star trek in terms of rot. Because star trek had been wholesale neglected and mismanaged for something like 20 years. And we still got some table scraps at least for star wars.

And then boom suddenly they made something worth a dam with the whole original cast back and it's amazing how fast the wheel turns.


Say what you will, it took them 7 shitty seasons and 3 mediocre movies but they managed to do what star wars couldn't.
Modern Star Trek has sucked dick for so long they had to drag the cast of TNG back in order to get Trekkies to care. It's pathetic nostalgia pandering. I mean they were incapable of creating anything new that anyone cared about so they just dug up the past. Sound familiar?

If Disney Wars was exactly the same except they had a scene of the OT cast together, depending on how it's written it might be cool for like 5 seconds but the movies would still be fucking bad. The same way Nu-Trek is still bad. Not getting Han, Luke, and Leia together was the icing on the shit cake known as the sequels. I'd have to be insane (or a complete dunce) to watch hours of garbage TV I know I'll hate just so I can clap at some dumb fanwank.
 
Modern Star Trek has sucked dick for so long they had to drag the cast of TNG back in order to get Trekkies to care. It's pathetic nostalgia pandering. I mean they were incapable of creating anything new that anyone cared about so they just dug up the past. Sound familiar?

If Disney Wars was exactly the same except they had a scene of the OT cast together, depending on how it's written it might be cool for like 5 seconds but the movies would still be fucking bad. The same way Nu-Trek is still bad. Not getting Han, Luke, and Leia together was the icing on the shit cake known as the sequels. I'd have to be insane (or a complete dunce) to watch hours of garbage TV I know I'll hate just so I can clap at some dumb fanwank.

The hilarious thing is that if Trek show runners hadn't bee massive faggots trying to subvert expectations they could have just made Picard Season 1 the TNG-verse (TNG, DS1, VOY) memberberry reunion fans had wanted and ridden high on the waves of consoomer jizz. Now, in addition to having shit on everything with a nonsense story that only tracks if you are trying to hamhandedly cram in modern day political metaphors (that have your politics approved villains and resolution) it make you really just look like a pandering bitch trying to damage control.

OTOH, has the massive outpouring of coom from abused wives for doing what they should have done 6 years ago, maybe the right move was to shit on them because they'll still lap it up like good abused wives.

I haven't wasted the braincells, but from what I understand Season 2 didn't really shit on Trek so much as it was just a completely unintelligible mess that was trying to be a story about mental health awareness or some shit.
 
@Mississippi Motorboater it's crazy how efficient at production the EU assembly line got. In 1998 alone they published SEVEN full EU novels, plus several "young readers" novels, plus a ton of comic books (original and ongoing stories, adaptations of EU novels, trade paperbacks, etc.), plus a ton of West End RPG material, plus a ton of general Star Wars nerd sourcebook/newsletter/magazine type material

In 1999, three more full EU novels plus the Tales From the New Republic anthology book, plus an even bigger number of comics, plus an even bigger number of "young reader/junior novels," plus more RPG stuff, plus all kinds of Phantom Menace tie-in material. The publishing side of Star Wars was a fucking machine at the end of the 90s/into the 2000s
 
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So what you are telling me is that they are sell outs 🤔

Sounds about right with critics of any kind, even the "pro fan base" ones.

At most I expected a "It's not awful but it's far too late now" but most of them are saying "TNG is back!" As if the last few decades of nu-trek didn't happen.

And at that moment I realized that we get what we deserve if we have the memory span of a goldfish
Anyone remember when Luke Skywalker saving the day in The Mandalorian was heralded as the moment that saved the franchise? This is just the Trekkie version of it. The fans acted as if the Sequels and everything after 2015 didn't happen.

People have short memories when it comes to things like this. Mostly because they really love to believe in things like hope.
 
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Disney has fallen to the sunk-cost fallacy with pretty much everything Star Wars. Doubling down on Rey, doubling down on Feloni, doubling down on Disney+, just a stream of terrible secondary media, doubling down on the sequels in the parks. And a lot of those decisions were Iger's, per his own book and media. And don't even start on Willow and Indy. I can't wait to see how they ruin the ride in the parks with Dial of Destiny trash.

Say what you will about Eisner, but he canceled that park in Virginia and sold off the Power Rangers.
All they had to do was follow the damn train and capitalize on clone trooper merch.... No one cares that much about the Galactic civil war era at all anymore. Its all the clone wars now.

I'd seen some bits and pieces of disneywars shows, there are some glimpses where they could make a gritty live action clone wars show in the vein of band of brothers. But knowing disney, they would just throw not-shaak ti and modern non-issues in that would sabotage it before it got anywhere.
 
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