Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Dixieland Buckaroo]

All they had to do was follow the damn train and capitalize on clone trooper merch.... No one cares that much about the Galactic civil war era at all anymore. Its all the clone wars now.

I'd seen some bits and pieces of disneywars shows, there are some glimpses where they could make a gritty live action clone wars show in the vein of band of brothers. But knowing disney, they would just throw not-shaak ti and modern non-issues in that would sabotage it before it got anywhere.

As a fan on usenet, tfn boards, etc. when the prequels were coming out (although less and less as they progressed), a lot of the fans were hoping for "Saving Private Ryan/Band of Brothers, but in space".

Ok maybe not quite as pictured, but they're in space.

Saving Private Ryan had just come out a year or so before E1 in theaters, and Band of Brothers was announced for HBO of all places! I think it aired in between 1 and 2? Anyway, if they can do that stuff on the big screen, and then the small screen, well why not Star Wars? In the gap between 1 and 2, there was a lot of delusion that Episode 2 would deliver, and that TPM was just the set up.

Then the title was announced, "Attack of the Clones".

A bit later the teaser came out, and then people saw the movie. There were a lot fewer repeat viewings of Episode 2 than Episode 1.

In hindsight, the multimedia project between Episodes 2 and 3, and in particular Genndy's Clone Wars, did salve these delusion wounds somewhat. And in hindsight, they really delivered I think what people more or less wanted from the prequels. But George was focused on other things.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

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Why does luke look so wrong in that poster

To be fair, Sabine never had any tits to take away. And she also looks like an orange Power Ranger in the slice of life section before the monster attacks.

What show is it referencing?

 

[Mississippi Motorboater]

@Mississippi Motorboater it's crazy how efficient at production the EU assembly line got. In 1998 alone they published SEVEN full EU novels, plus several "young readers" novels, plus a ton of comic books (original and ongoing stories, adaptations of EU novels, trade paperbacks, etc.), plus a ton of West End RPG material, plus a ton of general Star Wars nerd sourcebook/newsletter/magazine type material

In 1999, three more full EU novels plus the Tales From the New Republic anthology book, plus an even bigger number of comics, plus an even bigger number of "young reader/junior novels," plus more RPG stuff, plus all kinds of Phantom Menace tie-in material. The publishing side of Star Wars was a fucking machine at the end of the 90s/into the 2000s

Once Del Rey took over the novel rights, and Scholastic had been settled on for junior books (as opposed to the junior novel series jumping publishing houses during the 90's), it became the norm for there being a hefty rollout of material.

But as you highlighted, where you see the publishing wing really go guns blazing was any year where a movie came out. They made sure to ride that wave of merchandising hype like you wouldn't believe, so that if you were an avid Star Wars reader, you were eating like a king and an emperor combined. 1999 was Del Rey's first year back at the helm, so they were still gaining ground with demographics and arguably spreading themselves thin. But then you look at 2002, when Attack of the Clones was released, and the number of books on offer is simply dizzying.

In this one year, you had:
The Approaching Storm
Episode II: Attack of the Clones (The novelization)
The last three books of Jude Watson's Jedi Apprentice series (which yes, was still going till 2002)
The first three books of Watson's Jedi Quest Series
The first two books of the young Boba Fett Series
New Jedi Order: Dark Journey
New Jedi Order: Enemy Lines I: Rebel Dream
New Jedi Order: Enemy Lines II: Rebel Stand
New Jedi Order: Traitor
New Jedi Order: Destiny's Way

So in total, that's fifteen new book releases in a single year, covering a swath of different eras, reader demographics, and facets of narrative appeal, with most of them being better than anything Disney has put out in the novel arena in the last nine fucking years of having the rights to this IP. And that's if you could even carry that many books home amidst all the must-read new issues of Insider packed with behind-the-scenes info for the movie, or even find time to read when you had something like seven major games come out (including Bounty Hunter, Pandemic's Battlefront, Jedi Starfighter and Jedi Outcast). And this to say nothing of comics front, where you had stalwart series like Republic and Tales putting out a slew of issues, accompanied by some new arrivals like Jan Duursema's gorgeous comic adaptation of AOTC, Jango Fett: Open Seasons, the standalone Jango Fett and Zam Wessell comics, and the start of a brand new series, Empire.

Again, this was all in the span of a single fucking year. It didn't matter what kind of Star Wars fan you were...you were getting oodles of excellent media, some of which by themselves were masterpieces that are still revered to this day.

Del Rey, Dark Horse and LucasFilm Publishing used to fucking spoil us man, let me tell you.

 

[God of Nothing]

Why does luke look so wrong in that poster

bowl-cut ass hair tinted somewhat red and face half in the dark

 

[Gondolindrim]

I like they're going to continue calling this "Tales of the Jedi" as if it isn't just the Dooku and Ahsoka show. No anthology has a central character who we're fully expecting to get more of in the second season.

 

[Molly White's Breast Milk]

The hilarious thing is that if Trek show runners hadn't bee massive faggots trying to subvert expectations they could have just made Picard Season 1 the TNG-verse (TNG, DS1, VOY) memberberry reunion fans had wanted and ridden high on the waves of consoomer jizz. Now, in addition to having shit on everything with a nonsense story that only tracks if you are trying to hamhandedly cram in modern day political metaphors (that have your politics approved villains and resolution) it make you really just look like a pandering bitch trying to damage control.

OTOH, has the massive outpouring of coom from abused wives for doing what they should have done 6 years ago, maybe the right move was to shit on them because they'll still lap it up like good abused wives.

I haven't wasted the braincells, but from what I understand Season 2 didn't really shit on Trek so much as it was just a completely unintelligible mess that was trying to be a story about mental health awareness or some shit.

You made me remember that they made Stacey fucking Abrahms president of Earth after she lost her gubernatorial campaign.

Say what you will about Disney Wars but even the Lizzo and Jack Black cameos weren't as cringe as this shit.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

You made me remember that they made Stacey fucking Abrahms president of Earth after she lost her gubernatorial campaign.
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Say what you will about Disney Wars but even the Lizzo and Jack Black cameos weren't as cringe as this shit.

And just like how the Sequels showed that gun control is ineffective when the enemy refuses to disarm, at least the Jack Black and Lizzo cameos were hilariously based. They portrayed two goofy rulers for a domed "paradise" full of lazy shits who would get fucked if their slave army of robots went offline. They literally voted to keep the droids running even when some droids went berserk and started attacking people. Putting Jack Black and Lizzo in charge of such a world made perfect sense because they're portraying aloof goofballs who live for pleasure.

 

[Ensok]

seven major games come out (including Bounty Hunter, Pandemic's Battlefront, Jedi Starfighter and Jedi Outcast)

Let's not forget Galactic Battlegrounds: Clone Campaigns. I spent many hours on that one.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

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I hate the Antichrist so fucking much it’s unreal.

I hope somebody hacks it and swaps that for Joker giving bad puns about exploding

 

[Miller]

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I like they're going to continue calling this "Tales of the Jedi" as if it isn't just the Dooku and Ahsoka show. No anthology has a central character who we're fully expecting to get more of in the second season.

They should have made the entire season about Dooku.
I bet the second season will feature Ahsoka again.

 

[Molly White's Breast Milk]

They should have made the entire season about Dooku.
I bet the second season will feature Ahsoka again.

It'll probably be Ahsoka heavy because of the live action show or they could go totally insane and have most of the season about the Yaddle/Yoda romance that produced Grogu.

 

[Miller]

It'll probably be Ahsoka heavy because of the live action show or they could go totally insane and have most of the season about the Yaddle/Yoda romance that produced Grogu.

I wouldn't mind more Yaddle, I liked her interactions with Dooku.

 

[Midwit]

But GRRM would rather write about Dany getting diarrhea rather than talk about how each faction's tax policy affects the lower classes and their popularity amongst said lower classes.

GRRM doesn't write about the laymen at all since he only cares about the nobility and the bottom feeders, because apparantly the people who'd be most directly affected by the constant politicking he writes are completely irrelevant and only serve as background details whilst he writes about fictional food and Dany's underage breasts.

Ferengi

Ferengi are more akin to Anglo-American capitalists than they are to Jews to the point that they view entrepreneurialism as a literal religious duty, the real space Jews are the Bajorans Changelings.

And just like how the Sequels showed that gun control is ineffective when the enemy refuses to disarm

For a more recent example, you have Carl Weathers not joining the New Republic but then begging them for help when pirates attacked him due to the fact that he allowed Mando to kill a bunch of them because they wanted to drink in a school.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

If Mandalorians are Space Jews and the Empire is Space Nazi Germany, does that make Mandalorians who sided with Empire the equivalent of George Soros?

Boba Fett is a globalist now?

They should have made the entire season about Dooku.
I bet the second season will feature Ahsoka again.

Nah, they will make it exclusively about Ahsoka.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

GRRM doesn't write about the laymen at all since he only cares about the nobility and the bottom feeders, because apparantly the people who'd be most directly affected by the constant politicking he writes are completely irrelevant and only serve as background details whilst he writes about fictional food and Dany's underage breasts.

That's why, for all his writing, GRRM seems rather overrated in some aspects when it comes to realism. His work does better as a drama rather than as a realistic look at feudalism, where someone like Tywin Lannister would get his ass excommunicated by the Church and crusaded against by five different great lords for killing royal children who were baptized in the Light of the Faith.

Ferengi are more akin to Anglo-American capitalists than they are to Jews to the point that they view entrepreneurialism as a literal religious duty, the real space Jews are the Bajorans Changelings.

They're the exact opposite of the Federation's quasi-socialist, anti-capitalist proponents like Picard. Which, in hindsight, makes them far more relatable and realistic. Because if you really had a society like the Federation where technology got rid of poverty and hunger, it'd look a lot like Plazir-15 and less like a shining city on a hill. Especially since there's no religion to keep the Feddie citizens working hard and fearing God.

For a more recent example, you have Carl Weathers not joining the New Republic but then begging them for help when pirates attacked him due to the fact that he allowed Mando to kill a bunch of them because they wanted to drink in a school.

That was funny to me. Carl acted like he had big balls when he told the pirates to fuck off, yet he begs for help when the pirates come in force. Apparently, having a Moff around was the only thing that granted him protection, which meant that Moff Chicken Man was actually good for something other than chewing the scenery and issuing threats. The magistrate never thought that he should buy some defenses? Like I dunno, some turbolaser batteries or missile towers that can shoot down invading ships? Or an energy shield? At least Jack Black and Lizzo bought that Mandalorian army that used to be Bo-Katan's crew for protection.

 

[IDanceonTrannyGraves]

Slight aside, I've never known if these "griefing" threads were about grieving the loss of what people considered previously good franchises, or griefing people who still liked them, like you'd grief someone in a videogame in order to piss them off. The OP doesn't help clear things up either. Very confusing.

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Since the intent is unclear, I'll just say I never understood Star Wars.
It seems like professional wrestling where it just activates some latent gene present in certain people's brains (and unlike with professional wrestling, rarely even in what appear to be fairly non-retarded individuals) that causes them to become obsessed.

I recall seeing Star Wars as like an 8 year old (which was decades after they came out to be fair) but at the time there was no hint that they were supposed to be special.
In some places they were a little gross and shocking, especially for a kid, but otherwise they were relatively forgettable.

The universe isn't that compelling, it mostly amounts to magical random "rule of cool" shit people have tried to slap logic onto post-facto to create the impression of grander lore and intent, the story barely reaches generic and serviceable.
The whole thing seems like a shallow exercise that was mainly designed to show off cool cinematography tricks of the time.

What causes it? Is it an issue of age? Are these mostly just 50 year old men who saw Star Wars as kids when other movies weren't doing that, and that's why they think they're special? Then other consoomers glommed onto that?
It's such a nothing, even the originals are just movies like any other. And now in modern day the brand functions as nothing but globohomo-approved bugmanchild feed.

I watched the movies growing up and I can still watch and enjoy them as a complete detachment to any of the Disney stuff. I just put it out of my mind.
Dark Forces is how they got the Death Star plans. The EU books are what happened after ROTJ.
When you just put the rest out of your mind, it's still easy to enjoy the Lucas movies. But Disney isn't getting a fucking cent from me.

 

[Heckler1]

Let's not forget Galactic Battlegrounds: Clone Campaigns. I spent many hours on that one.

SWGB is purely responsible for why I thought Gungans were cool as a kid. Its a pity RTS isn't a more popular genera. I'd love to see SWGB2 with more civs and campaigns. There is a mod called Expanding Fronts that added the New Republic, Imperial Remnant, Black Sun Syndicate, and the sequel reskins.

 

[Screamer_2]

You know what is fucked up. I actually hope they kill of Din and completely burn down the show tonight. I think I would get more entertainment out of them just shitting the bed even harder than if it was just a really good episode of the show.

That's not a good way to be thinking about is as someone who liked the first two seasons a lot.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

You guys remember when the actors did phone calls to people for Empire Strikes Back?

 

[Lone Wandering Courier]

Let's not forget Galactic Battlegrounds: Clone Campaigns. I spent many hours on that one.

I remember getting the game and expansion from ebay because to me AoE2 but Star Wars sounded awesome (and it was)