Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Pocket Dragoon]

Better footage of the explosion, the moment bomb falls and detonates later. Don't think I've seen it posted, sorry if it was

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[Snekposter]

Allied bombing raids hit wrong countries a few times.

Okay, but how many times did the French bomb their own cities while the Germans were making their way to Paris?

 

[Lightning]

You have to give some credit to those drivers, a bomb falls out of nowhere and they just go on their way with no fucks given

 

[Uranus Pink]

Allied bombing raids hit wrong countries a few times.

I'm almost willing to bet dollars to donuts the United States military had bombed the wrong continent at least once.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I'm almost willing to bet dollars to donuts the United States military had bombed the wrong continent at least once.

The US has almost nuked itself by accident at least once.

 

[Vince McMahon]

The US has almost nuked itself by accident at least once.

The bomb hasn't been retrieved, I believe. It's still there.

 

[Glowie]

Okay, but how many times did the French bomb their own cities while the Germans were making their way to Paris?

To be fair only small scale explosives by resistance forces and even then historical sites were spare and civilian lives and French had proper military doctrine and discipline unlike soviets and Russians who kill their own to achieve their goal.

None of the mobiks in Stalingrad are heroes nor Kiev will see a Russian or a Wagner flag hoisted.

But I digress getting shit faced with big bombs is always a good idea, let's just hope that nuclear year are not used.

 

[No. 7 cat]

That's some crazy shit. The Russians are bombing their own city so the Ukrainians don't have to.

Too much pre flight Vodka is more likely. lol

I must say it is very thoughtful of them.

I'm almost willing to bet dollars to donuts the United States military had bombed the wrong continent at least once.

Neutral Ireland, the Saorstat was bombed a few times. Now some have theorised that at least one bombing was a warning. Ireland has a few naval bases, the Treaty Ports that Chamberlain had given up in c '37 to end the economic war, a respectable number of fighting men and (related the first and more for age of sail) a sailing from Ireland to England was far easier and safer than from the Low Countries or France, if it wasn't a 'Protestant Wind' at work. Churchill also offered the six counties, but the seriousness of that is unclear. It would've been over the objections and possible dead bodies of many of the officer class who saw that in Ireland's War of Independence and Civil War one fifth of country houses, belonging to their kith and kin were burnt deliberately.

People didn't pay attention to war in Georgia or two wars in Chechenya.

If russian social media and Z go by. Russians never recovered from fall of soviets, want authoritarian rulers and bloodshed.

Reminds me of ISIS and CCP tactics and westerners who simp for those groups.
Bugmen in third flavor and in third color.

Off topic
This isn't looking good for Russia, which is why Putin escalated nuclear alert to red.

For one thing they've half the population. While, say, Kazakhstan is a no fucks given despotism, it is a better example of a successful developmental dicatorship. A disproportionate number of kontrakni are Asians were the Russian far east and the 'stans were a key source of troops for the Afghan invasion (itself insane as it meant overthrowing an ardent Communist dictator who thought until the last moment that the spetnaz were UK or US forces so was trying to raise the Soviet Embassy by phone or radio). Also Ukraine provided much of the more Soviet arms industry like the Kharkiv Design Bureau, birthplace of the T-54 and T-64 plus rocketry and aerospace orgs.

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

Oh, that's neat, I know just the place to test it

Speaking of "pre-flight vodka", it made me recall the fact that sometimes Russians drink aviation fuel, so it might be that.
I'm not sure about the specifics, but that's the meme.

 

[mindlessobserver]

So let me get this straight. Belgorod got bombed not because of a mechanical fault but because the dumbass pilot could not read a map?

 

[Coffee Mugshot]

So let me get this straight. Belgorod got bombed not because of a mechanical fault but because the dumbass pilot could not read a map?

Via RALee85 twitter:
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"The Fighter Bomber says this was probably a UMPK FAB-500M62 glide bomb, but the wings didn't initiate for some reason so the bomb just fell. He says the fuze was set on delay, and detonated as it should (for targeting an underground target).

It sounds as though this may not have been an accidental release, but the bomb's wings just didn't function properly. The UMPK reportedly has a 50-70km range, which would put Kharkiv in range from Belgorod. The question is why a bomb was released over a city given the risks."

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

Via RALee85 twitter:
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"The Fighter Bomber says this was probably a UMPK FAB-500M62 glide bomb, but the wings didn't initiate for some reason so the bomb just fell. He says the fuze was set on delay, and detonated as it should (for targeting an underground target).

It sounds as though this may not have been an accidental release, but the bomb's wings just didn't function properly. The UMPK reportedly has a 50-70km range, which would put Kharkiv in range from Belgorod. The question is why a bomb was released over a city given the risks."

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Holy fuck, I have hard time believing this is real, even considering... everything. I'm curious about the target as well.
This failure of theirs is a blessing Ukraine's forces shouldn't overlook. Someone out there likely just realized that they were this close to getting smoked.

 

[MS Paint Gigachad]

Speaking of "pre-flight vodka", it made me recall the fact that sometimes Russians drink aviation fuel, so it might be that.
I'm not sure about the specifics, but that's the meme.

The story I heard was that some airplane used ethanol as coolant, and whenever one of them would come back to base, everyone would come out with cups and containers to drink

Tupolev Tu-22 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Air for the crew was provided by a bleed air system on the engine compressors. This air was hot and had to be cooled before being pumped into the cockpit. This cooling was provided by a large total-loss evaporator running on a mixture of 40% ethanol and 60% distilled water (effectively vodka). This system garnered the aircraft one of its many nicknames, the "supersonic booze carrier". As the system vented the coolant after use, the aircraft could run out during flight, and comfort had to be balanced by the possibility of running out of coolant.[23] Numerous cases of Tu-22 crews drinking the coolant mixture and becoming paralytically drunk led to a crackdown by Soviet Air Force authorities. Access to the bombers after flights was restricted, and more frequent checks were made on coolant levels. This higher level of security, however, did not end the practice outright.

 

[Exterminatus]

Also, Zelensky was in Avdiivka today; the fuckwit vatniks immediately started insisting that the warehouse & soundstage he uses isn't anywhere near the front, and the conscripts/ actors hate him. Meanwhile, small arms & artillery is heard in the background.

No comrade, you don't understand the entire war is fake globohomo propaganda. Ukraine surrendered to Russia in February of last year and using homosexual pedophile magic Hollywood has created a fake war. All the dead Russians are crisis actors at a sound stage in Burbank. Jewlensky has been living in Amerikkka the entire time.

Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were absolutely loathed by a big chunk of the US voter base, yet it took decades to get out of there. US is perfectly capable of supporting unpopular wars if it makes strategic sense.

The problem was the occupation bullshit. If we had left after we stomped Saddam, it would've probably been remembered in a better light but no we had to give the sand niggers democracy because the ghost of Woodrow Wilson still haunts American diplomacy.

Lying about the WMD's would've still hurt Bush politically but at least he could say he knocked out Saddam and not have to deal with a steady stream of dead Americans getting fucked by insurgents.

Comedian (Russian language) to TV President (Ukrainian) to real one. He's a pitchman getting money and (mostly) old equipment (like Polish T-72s or MiG-29s) from NATO. He also can get this or that offence taking Hollyweirdos to be ambassadors ensuring money flow. Ukraine has to both fund a state and an outsized military with a shrinking economy. And in the realms of reality (as opposed to six gorillion dead Ukies), he presides over a state that held back and pushing back the alleged no 2 military power. The military bit might owe more to C in C Zaluzhnyi (and the Defence Minister curbing his or his pals magpie tendencies but the comparison should be made to the invader which tolerated thieving as it meant loyalty and disposibilty) and soldiers, but Zelenskyy has achieved astonishing things and has exposed Russia for real as a flailing third world (or BRICS, same thing) despotism, and largely harmless to developed countries.

It helped that the guy before him really pushed hard to modernize the Ukrainian army and scrub out much of the Soviet-era corruption that was still hurting them as they began to adopt more western standards. There were still traitors running amok, but I'd wager if Poroshenko hadn't done as much as he did that Russia very well could've achieved their central goal of toppling the Ukrainian government in 2 weeks.

You have to give some credit to those drivers, a bomb falls out of nowhere and they just go on their way with no fucks given

Their lives are already pathetic, they were born in Russia. I bet some of them were pissed the blast wasn't bigger.

The US has almost nuked itself by accident at least once.

Yes we did, back in 1961 just 3 days after JFK took office. We accidentally dropped two Mark 39 hydrogen bombs on Goldsboro, North Carolina. One of the bombs actually performed perfectly and didn't detonate because one of the switches malfunctioned because of low voltage. What caused it was the B-52 carrying the bombs had a massive fuel leak which led to it exploding and killing 3 of the crew.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

That's some crazy shit. The Russians are bombing their own city so the Ukrainians don't have to.

Too much pre flight Vodka is more likely. lol

That's the most Russian thing I've heard all morning.

3 years ago we thought these guys were a match for the USA. Nowadays, I'd be surprised if they could last 5 minutes against China or India.

 

[Ghostse]

Reminds me of ISIS and CCP tactics and westerners who simp for those groups.
Bugmen in third flavor and in third color.

The US isn't perfect.
But jesus fucking christ the things some people hold out as alternatives.

"The Fighter Bomber says this was probably a UMPK FAB-500M62 glide bomb, but the wings didn't initiate for some reason so the bomb just fell. He says the fuze was set on delay, and detonated as it should (for targeting an underground target).

It sounds as though this may not have been an accidental release, but the bomb's wings just didn't function properly. The UMPK reportedly has a 50-70km range, which would put Kharkiv in range from Belgorod. The question is why a bomb was released over a city given the risks."

I was thinking just a pylon failure, but this that makes perfect sense, especially the no-fucks given about what's under the jet dropping the bomb and no distance/time delay on the fuse on the glide bomb to stop this exact thing from happening.

And yes, while this hilarious that the Russians value lives in Ukraine so much they are dropping glide bombs over their own cities to target apartment blocks in Kharkiv, lets not act like Russia is the only country in the history of ever to self-own.

 

[East_Clintwood]

See you guys are all wrong. You think Russia accidentally bombed itself when in reality they did it on purpose to take out a team of invisible Crysis-nanosuited NATO supersoldiers who were attempting to poison the water supply to turn the frogs gay.

Also the absolute state of Vatniks on social media. Earlier on "Adolf" was trending on Twitter because they were absolutely fucking seething at Reuters interviewing a Ukrainian dude with the call sign Adolf and vatniks were so assmad you'd think he'd been caught on film herding babushkas into concentration camps or something.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Watched the full Belgorod video, so bomb drops, drivers see and slow down, they don't really know exactly what it is (but you're 40KM away from war, you numbnuts, assume the worst). Bomb does not explode. Drivers continue on the road. As if nothing happened. Bombs goes off, cars get thrown by blast like they're toys.
What even the fuck is going on in those brains.

 

[Cpt. Stud Beefpile]

The bomb hasn't been retrieved, I believe. It's still there.

The very central core is (it sunk too far in swampy land to be dug up) but is completely incapable of going BOOM on its own and would require a multimillion dollar effort to even find what's left, which wouldn't be weapons-viable anyhow.

 

[namai337]

It sounds as though this may not have been an accidental release, but the bomb's wings just didn't function properly. The UMPK reportedly has a 50-70km range, which would put Kharkiv in range from Belgorod. The question is why a bomb was released over a city given the risks."

Best guess why they released the bomb over the city it that they are afraid of posable patriot battery being stationed over Kharkiv due that fucking radar its packing is scary if in good hands it can practly see anything hence why in one interview where an anime fag is interviewing a patriot battery operator said that they hope it chould shoot down a Kinzal hypersonic due it will detect it and they will have data for it

Interview itself :https://youtu.be/SReqD5QYNMg
so you can have a listen of it Yourself on posable impact it may have and data it will provide