Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Ghostse]

Watched the full Belgorod video, so bomb drops, drivers see and slow down, they don't really know exactly what it is (but you're 40KM away from war, you numbnuts, assume the worst). Bomb does not explode. Drivers continue on the road. As if nothing happened. Bombs goes off, cars get thrown by blast like they're toys.
What even the fuck is going on in those brains.

It cannot be explained. It must be experienced for one's self.
Look up "Driving in Russia" on Youtube.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Is this really as dumb as it looks or could this happen with a pylon or mount failure? How does one think they're a hundred miles away? They have a stolen Garmin in the cockpit don't they? GLONASS?

Spoiler: Pig

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Or not, I may do a TL;DW just give me a day

From the pilots perspective it’s absolutely smart. Not going to get shot down less likely to get shot down over Russia than he is over Ukraine. And he can always claim weapon malfunction if anyone starts yelling at him. What are they going to do, fire him? They don’t have enough pilots to fire him or jail him or hand him a rifle a shovel and point him at a trench. The poor bastards flying till he dies.

Better footage of the explosion, the moment bomb falls and detonates later. Don't think I've seen it posted, sorry if it was

Delayed blast penetrating or armor piercing bomb. I wonder what they intended to drop it on? Granted I don’t rule out that they are just bolting whatever random bombs they have on aircraft without giving much thought to what’s best for the actual target. It may be more “this is an Su-34, and this is the only Su-34 bomb we have in the shed tonight, so bolt it on”

 

[GatorAids]

Bomb was intentionally dropped. You can see it detonate under the ground. That's because the nazi hohols had set up a secret underground base where they were genociding poor Russians by drowning them in the cum pit. Thankfully for the Russians they were able to avoid any kind of leakage so Belgorod will not be having jizz flow out of the sewers like what happened in that one Russian town.

 

[Akran]

Delayed blast penetrating or armor piercing bomb. I wonder what they intended to drop it on? Granted I don’t rule out that they are just bolting whatever random bombs they have on aircraft without giving much thought to what’s best for the actual target. It may be more “this is an Su-34, and this is the only Su-34 bomb we have in the shed tonight, so bolt it on”

That type of bomb was probably originally going to be used to break up a trench or trench "bunker" if i had to guess. Surprised we haven't seen more of these used, is there even a trench 40km away from there? What's the closest battle near that city?

 

[Rezza]

Unrelated, but I'm actually wondering why the Ukrainian soldiers are also using Nom de Guerre like the Russians did. I understand the Russians using it, like the Wagners, but why the Ukrainian regulars as well? Is it an Opsec thing?

 

[Akran]

Unrelated, but I'm actually wondering why the Ukrainian soldiers are also using Nom de Guerre like the Russians did. I understand the Russians using it, like the Wagners, but why the Ukrainian regulars as well? Is it an Opsec thing?

Mainly opsec, some choose callsigns that remind them of what they were before the war too

 

[Ghostse]

Unrelated, but I'm actually wondering why the Ukrainian soldiers are also using Nom de Guerre like the Russians did. I understand the Russians using it, like the Wagners, but why the Ukrainian regulars as well? Is it an Opsec thing?

Half opsec, half moto, half intimidation. Military math, deal with it

Spoiler

I was told a story by an Army ranger how they rolled in Falluja before the marines fucked it up: 3 tucks with 8 guys in the back would roll out. Freshly washed clean uniforms, full battle rattle, gloves and full balaclavas/sungoggles even in the summer. No visible decorations or rank. You didn't use names, you used designations - (truck)(number), 1-7, 2-4, etc.

If you were engaged and anyone was wounded, you did everything possible to make it look like it was minor, hide the bleeding. If anyone was killed, you treated them like they were just wounded - loaded them in the truck, medic would run IVs, sit them up in a seat, talk to them like they were alive. Back at the FOB, all uniforms were loaded onto a chopper to get taken for laundry, fresh uniforms were dropped off along with other supplies.
The next day, regardless what happened the day before, or if anyone had killed or wounded, 3 trucks with 8 guys in the back would roll out, everyone in fresh clean uniforms, full battle rattle, gloves, and full balaclavas regardless of how hot it was, and no decorations or rank visible, all calling each other by the same designations.

After about a month and a half, the insurgents gave up and would retreat from the Ranger's patrol routes because they didn't believe they were killing anyone. Haji were afraid of the Rangers because they the thought they were immortal. When they grabbed guys they would talk instantly because they were afraid of Ranger's dark magic that made them immortal.
(Then they rotated out for the marines and [in his words] they fucked it up by bringing in too many soldiers, trying to get buddy buddy with the locals who didn't want to be friends they wanted them to go back to America, and Haji seeing they could kill Marines)

So if you just go by a call-sign and get notable and are killed, someone else can use that call-sign and fuck with enemy intelligence/morale.

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

Guys, apparently, there might've been a second bomb related to that incident in Belgorod:
https://bloknot.ru/chp/e-vakuirovan...a-snaryada-najdena-vtoraya-bomba-1095467.html

В центре Белгорода обнаружена неразорвавшаяся авиабомба, объявлена эвакуация 17 многоквартирных домов

Подробнее на сайте

www.kommersant.ru

There's a bunch of articles you can find. They evacuated 3k people around the location where the bomb is supposedly located.

 

[Ghostse]

Ukrainians demonstrate their mastery of the battlefield AND 80's cinema

 

[Foltest]

Hmmm, I wonder what happen when all of those convitcs in Wagner finish their tour?

Murder, alcohol and prostitutes: Wagner convicts pardoned by Putin return to terrorise home towns​

Violent criminals who served with the notorious Russian militia in Ukraine are terrorising the communities they return to


Pjotr Sauer
Sat 22 Apr 2023 13.25 BST


He strode up and down the central street of Tskhinvali on Monday, like he did most days, occasionally stopping to chat with passersby.
Locals knew the man, Soslan Valiyev, 38, as an idiosyncratic but popular fixture in Tskhinvali, the tiny capital of the Russian-backed breakaway region of South Ossetia in Georgia.

Tsugri, as Valiyev was affectionately nicknamed by everyone in town, had a developmental disability. “As long as I could remember Tskhinvali, Tsugri was always there, greeting cars as they entered the city with his big smile,” said Alik Puhati, a journalist and South Ossetian native.
“He was loved by everyone in our tight community. A welcomed guest at weddings and dinners, people really took care of and protected him,” Puhati added.
The shock was therefore palpable in Tskhinvali when the news broke out that Tsugri had been killed that evening. A harrowing video published on Telegram channels showed a man chasing and kicking Tsugri moments before he reportedly stabbed him to death.
“Everyone is in shock,” Puhati said, “people ask themselves, ‘How could this have happened?’”
Local authorities announced in the early hours of Tuesday that they had arrested a man who was suspected of murdering Tsugri. The man, who was identified by state-run media, was Georgiy Siukayev, a convicted murderer who was recruited from jail last autumn by the Wagner paramilitary organisation to fight in Ukraine.

Murder, alcohol and prostitutes: Wagner convicts pardoned by Putin return to terrorise home towns

Violent criminals who served with the notorious Russian militia in Ukraine are terrorising the communities they return to

www.theguardian.com

Murder, alcohol and prostitutes: Wagner convicts pardoned by Putin re…

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also, 20% of the convicts have HIV, being promised to get the meds if they fight,.

• A fifth of recruits in Russian prisoner units are HIV positive, says Ukraine, per The New York TImes.
• Prisoners were recruited to join the Wagner Group in Ukraine with promises of anti-viral medication.
• Captured soldiers said they agreed because Russian prisons deprived them of effective HIV treatment.

About a fifth of recruits sent to fight in Ukraine from Russian prisons are HIV positive, according to estimates by Ukrainian authorities, with several captured Russian soldiers telling The New York Times they were promised life-saving anti-viral medications if they agreed to fight.

One detainee told The Times that he took the offer to fight in Ukraine because the Russian prison system deprived him of supplies of effective medications that he needed to survive.

Timur, 37, told the publication that in prison he was put on HIV medications that he feared were ineffective, and that he worried that he wouldn't survive on these treatments for the duration of his sentence. He was identified only by his first name in order to avoid retaliation if he returned to Russia.

A fifth of Russian prisoners recruited to fight in Ukraine are HIV positive, with convicts promised anti-viral drugs if they agreed to fight: report

A fifth of recruits in Russian prisoner units are HIV positive, says Ukraine, per The New York TImes. Prisoners were recruited to join the Wagner Group in

www.businessinsider.nl

A fifth of Russian prisoners recruited to fight in Ukraine are HIV po…

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[Corette]

This might be just an propagandist attempt to undermine inevitable world domination by BRICS.
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Russian Arms Sales to India Stall on Fears Over US Sanctions​

• India payments for Russia military equipment stuck for a year
• Impasse threatens to hurt India’s readiness on China border
  By
  Sudhi Ranjan Sen and
  Adrija Chatterjee
  April 21, 2023, 6:24 AM UTCUpdated onApril 21, 2023, 10:02 AM UTC
  Russian deliveries of military supplies to India have ground to a halt as the countries struggle to find a payment mechanism that doesn’t violate US sanctions, according to Indian officials with knowledge of the matter.
  Indian payments for weapons amounting to more than $2 billion have been stuck for about a year, and Russia has stopped supplying credit for a pipeline of about $10 billion worth of spare parts as well as two S-400 missile-defense system batteries that have yet to be delivered, according to the officials, who asked not be identified due to the sensitivity of the issue. Russia is India’s biggest supplier of weapons needed in border disputes with Pakistan and China.
  India is unable to settle the bill in US dollars due to concerns about secondary sanctions, while Russia remains unwilling to accept rupees due to exchange-rate volatility, the officials said. New Delhi also doesn’t want to complete the deal in Russian rubles due to concerns about being able to purchase enough on the open market at a fair rate, they said.
  India’s government has proposed Moscow use the rupees from weapons sales to invest in Indian debt and capital markets to avoid stockpiling rupees, they added, but Vladimir Putin’s government doesn’t find that appealing.
  One possible solution would be to use euros and dirhams, the currencies used to pay for Indian imports of discounted Russian crude, a senior Indian government official said. However, using these currencies to pay for weapons could invite more scrutiny from the US over sanctions than oil, as well as pushing up costs due to unfavorable exchange rates for India.
  Another option under discussion is a mechanism for Russia to offset purchases of Indian imports against the price of the weapons, one of the officials said. But this isn’t easy because Russia had a $37 billion trade surplus last year with India, its third-largest behind China and Turkey, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.
  India’s Ministry of Defense, Ministry of External Affairs, Finance Ministry and the Reserve Bank of India didn’t respond to phone calls or emailed requests for comment. The Kremlin and Rosonboronexport, Russia’s state arms sale company, also didn’t respond to texts and emailed requests for comment.

 

[Scout Trooper]

also, 20% of the convicts have HIV, being promised to get the meds if they fight,.

This seems, uh, a little absurd.

Also

 

[DumbDude43]

This seems, uh, a little absurd.

Also
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it's a classic "source: my smelly hairy butthole" article lol
i don't doubt that wagner convicts have a lot of aids from years of gulag prison rape, but i doubt very much that there exist good data sources that would allow you to put an actual percentage value on it.
if such data exists at all, it would be in the form of internal documents in some russian state institution, which is not something that a western media outlet could access.

 

[Coffee Mugshot]

Some people are proposing that this may be the type of 'glide kit' that failed in the bomb over Belgorod. Doesn't really look like a finished project.



Source for pic from Oryx
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The Drive article on it from a few months ago with some other notes/speculation.
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Since everything is quiet due to DDOS and Null stickied Invaders Must Die, here is some appropriate propaganda to pass the time.

 

[Glowie]

The US isn't perfect.
But jesus fucking christ the things some people hold out as alternatives.

Totalitarian states are certainly lovely to live in. I dare any western pro Z poster to move to Russia and live in slums there for rest of their lives.

But hey larping is easier

 

[Corette]

Totalitarian states are certainly lovely to live in. I dare any western pro Z poster to move to Russia and live in slums there for rest of their lives.

But hey larping is easier

That type always seem to claim that they're too impure to live in their stated paradise, but wish that it will infect everyone else in future.

 

[Fuck It We'll Do It Live]

I dare any western pro Z poster to move to Russia and live in slums there for rest of their lives.

There were far-left tankie Western volunteers that fought among the pro-Russian forces operating in the Donbas from 2014 onward, but I haven't heard of any new ones joining to fight with the Russians in this ongoing 2022-2023 war. Even before the numerous drone VOG-17 nade snuff videos that have been uploaded regularly as the war came to a crawl - thus dissuading many to actually get involved - Western pro-Russians seemed content to stay at home, and LARP instead as TRUE and HONEST Russians online who make themselves content with sharing whatever they've seen on Telegram.

 

[Clownish]

Unrelated, but I'm actually wondering why the Ukrainian soldiers are also using Nom de Guerre like the Russians did. I understand the Russians using it, like the Wagners, but why the Ukrainian regulars as well? Is it an Opsec thing?

Azov used nick names in 2014 because many of them were from Donbass and had family in Russian occupied areas. Since then it's become part of the military culture. I think the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists used them during WW2 as well.

 

[Snekposter]

You know what, before I was in this just to see Putin's nose bloodied, but now its personal.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-russia-war-latest-russia-062334874.html
https://ghostarchive.org/archive/OGIHm

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No, we in the USA reserve the right to sink that floating garbage patch into the ocean, you krokodil-swilling bastards.

And shit, even the fucking Germans were able to get by without ball bearings:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davida...00-tanks-its-lost-in-ukraine/?sh=2d0f398023f2
https://archive.md/Z2CoB

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[Uranus Pink]

If it would make you better, the United States military not once and but twice done something the Russians had never done once on the British Isles. That is Americans drank all of the English beer and liquor that wasn't locked down and consensually fucked their women.