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Finlay "Play Stupid" Games was on a show called Naked Education where she showed off her "amazing results"


She's also written a book about phalloplasty. I've attached the PDF below if you want to know how the sausage is made, so to speak. I'm sure some medfags might read her book and get more out of it than a casual troon spotter

The only time I ever want to hear about urethras is when I'm watching King of the Hill
 

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And I may be wrong...but if you're non binary...how can you then be femme? Or am I confused again?
You ever delve into the history and doctrines of Christianity enough to have a solid handle on words like "soteriology" or "eschatology"? Enough to probably kick out a 5-paragraph essay about some of the more important historical debates that are packed into those words, which in turn would involve employing a bunch of other 50-cent words, each one of which could spawn its own 5-paragraph essay, and so forth? And then you sit back and realize that you're not a Christian and you don't believe any of it, but you know a lot of big words to describe things you don't believe in?

Gender studies people have devoted a lot of time and energy to developing a language to describe shit that doesn't actually exist.
 
Finlay "Play Stupid" Games was on a show called Naked Education where she showed off her "amazing results"

She's also written a book about phalloplasty. I've attached the PDF below if you want to know how the sausage is made, so to speak. I'm sure some medfags might read her book and get more out of it than a casual troon spotter
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Not long after getting my surgery date, I was walking through Jericho in
Oxford one day, mulling over the strange mix of emotions I felt. I bumped
into Elizabeth, a female friend who was aware that I was soon to have my
surgery and who was pregnant. We were discussing how hard I was finding
it to deal with excitement and fear both battling for space in my head.
‘You know what?’, Elizabeth exclaimed with a tilt of her head, ‘That
sounds a lot like childbirth! You want this beautiful being which you are
about to bring into life, but, at the same time, the outcome is unknown.
What will the baby look like? Will you bond? How will your life change?
How will it change the relationship with yourself and significant others?
And there has to be a lot of pain to go through first to get this beautiful
thing.’
I stared at Elizabeth in shock. ‘Oh, my goodness, you are so right!’
Elizabeth added how she was scared that after the birthing experience
her body would be forever changed, ‘...in a beautiful way, of course, but I
will still have to adjust and get to know my body all over again.’
Never in a million years did I expect to be having a conversation with
someone about the similarities between childbirth and phalloplasty, but my
friend was right. I was about to have a brand-new penis; my body would be
forever changed. My new body would change my relationship dynamic.
Talking with Elizabeth and seeing the complexity of the situation really
helped me to embrace both conflicting emotions and find space for them to
live together in my head. They were both valid and part of the process of
birthing my new penis.

dang, more of this:
However, when the nurse checked on me for
the first time, I did manage to get an initial glimpse of my pink, swollen,
and rather shiny new penis. As my eyes took him in, a warm feeling of joy
removed any doubt. I grinned, before passing out again.
Sometime later, I was awoken to what sounded very much like a
heartbeat. The noise was like what you hear when a pregnant person has an
ultrasound scan. It shocked me wide awake and I realized the sound was
coming from my penis. In the early hours after surgery, the main artery,
which they take from your arm to give the blood supply to the new penis,
must be checked regularly. To make sure the blood supply is working, the
nurse uses a doppler wand, placed on the penis, to listen to the blood
pumping through. I knew this would be happening – I had been told that
initially it would be every hour. However, I hadn’t made the connection
with how it would sound, and it did sound exactly like a baby’s heartbeat.
Reflecting on my conversation with Elizabeth just before surgery, I smiled.
Here I had my precious baby penis, changing my life forever.

edit: the great minds here were so right:
Nervously and ever so gently,
I cupped Finn Jr. in my palm to support him. I stared down at him in
absolute awe. This was the first time I had connected with him, other than
simply looking at him. To feel his heaviness and his warmth in the palm of
my hand made all the doubts melt away. The comparison to holding one’s
child for the first time was not lost on me here. At that moment, the
gratitude and love I experienced for this new part of me made every single
bit of pain feel like a drop in the ocean. I continued to stare mesmerized at
Finn Jr. whilst the nurse cleaned and replaced the dressings. I was almost
scared to breathe in case I moved and injured him in any way. I didn’t take
my eyes off him until everything had been cleaned and Finn Jr. was safely
back in his willy fortress.

Again, I am going to note the similarities between phalloplasty and
having a new baby, because it is so fitting. You are discharged from the
hospital with a brand-new addition that you need to care for. You’ve spoken


to people about their experience, you’ve done your research, you’ve bought
everything in the suggested kit, but when you bring your new addition
home, the reality is entirely different. It needs constant care, constant
checking on and, as an individual, it has its own patterns and needs. Alex
and I, like many new parents, were having to make it up as we went along.
Should it smell like that? Should that be leaking? Is this the right way to put
the dressing on? It is no wonder that this journey is marked with a lot of
stress and worry.
 
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Sorry, @Aunt Carol, I can't reply but you reminded me: she recently got a puppy and was talking about how her "maternal instincts" were kicking in and how the dog had to be her child now because "she doesn't have ovaries any more"
This is a really quick skim.

Other than the gender woo, this book is like if your grandma sat down and typed up up her hour-long story about the time she had her hip replaced. Will your grandchildren/the reader want a summary of every office visit, a digression that each nurse/doctor was "nice," and then a list of every kind of lotion you used? Definitely put that in the book. This is like a tourist's review of a resort; the author's never had surgery before, so everything is so novel and interesting.

eta: OK, your grandma's multiple ortho operations.

The saga where she woke up and was told they couldn't fit the erectile device but absolutely no other information--this sounds completely plausible.

Surgeons love to answer their patents' post-op questions in PACU and then duck right into their next case. Every single time, the surgeon is surprised to find out that their patient retained zero of that information after they'd finally finished metabolizing their anesthesia. This is less of a problem when it's an inpatient and the nurses can read the operative notes after they're transcribed. She had day surgery and it sounded like the surgeon was in a case and couldn't come to the phone. Not a troon problem and she actually self-advocated, so you can tell this was nearly 10 years ago.
 
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Alex
and I, like many new parents, were having to make it up as we went along.
Should it smell like that? Should that be leaking? Is this the right way to put
the dressing on?
Just like a baby! Almost. Kind of.
It reminds me of brave new world where they prescribe articulation pregnancy hormone courses for hysterical women
 
The saga where she woke up and was told they couldn't fit the erectile device but absolutely no other information
She's had six surgeries with multiple revisions, including two urethral hook-ups and hasn't said a word about the possibility of a UTI leading to kidney failure/death. She's a complete propagandist for phallo and all I can think of is the fable about the fox who lost his tail

She has to use a mobility scooter now but I'm not sure if the reason is that walking is painful because of the rotdog or if she's a munchie. (Why not both?) The way she walked in on the show made it seem like she had to waddle and I can't tell if it's because she's overweight or if it physically hurts her to walk with that thing on her cooch that's hanging on by a thread

(:_(
 
‘Munchkin, I love you, You are my man, with a very new penis. It’s okay.

OK, so that book wasn't too horrifying on its face, except that the trans plan is for every autistic girl to also spend three years having multiple planned surgeries, as well as revisions and urinary tract infections.

I think this book is a good thing for troons and their champions to read, although they should have a shitlord friend standing nearby to ask if this sounds at all like a man wrote it.

The parts about planning ahead, having a shopping list for when you go to the hospital and when you get home, and talking to your surgeon when you don't understand things and weighing out the options together--these are actual good advice, albeit in the service of getting a fake dick and a ticket to UTI town. I was pleased when she figured out to take D-mannose, troubleshot her catheters, and that she asked the surgeon ahead of time if her self-harm scars would be a contraindication to harvesting skin from her arm.

All in all, this FtM has a sunny attitude and an internal locus of control seldom seen in Internet troons. I'd have preferred she used that in other ways, but at least she's not moping about it.

She has to use a mobility scooter now but I'm not sure if the reason is that walking is painful because of the rotdog or if she's a munchie.
Huh, I wonder if the horror kicked in after this book was written, or if she did go in for munching after getting a taste with the phalloplasty. She was talking a lot about her experience in AA and how of course that means she only takes OTC medications at home... except for the one's she's stockpiled from her surgeries.

Six surgeries for a phalloplasty doesn't seem like more than usual--I wonder if anyone's keeping track of the average? These frankendicks are costing someone a whole lot of money, and that's before you add in the patients' lost work hours. I'm surprised that with assembly-line surgeons, there hasn't been a push in the culture to change to just mastectomies. A plastic surgeon could pocket a lot more money that way and never have to involve a urologist, who has real organs they're busy taking care of.
 
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There's a reason for that...

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She says she's a life coach and mentor but we all know that's Traneese for "groomer"
My standards have gotten so low with these people that I'm pleasantly surprised to see "you've decided to be trans? pay me 35 pounds for a Zoom call and ass-pats, or buy my book; I just got a bachelor's degree online" instead of yet another "IT'S GENOCIDE HERE IS MY PAYPAL/ONLYFANS."

It's like how the one bum who's actually playing violin makes the guys just flying a sign look shabby.
 
Finlay "Play Stupid" Games was on a show called Naked Education where she showed off her "amazing results"


She's also written a book about phalloplasty. I've attached the PDF below if you want to know how the sausage is made, so to speak. I'm sure some medfags might read her book and get more out of it than a casual troon spotter

The only time I ever want to hear about urethras is when I'm watching King of the Hill
I hear you video. Subtly slipping in the reference.

 
Today was my first time perusing this thread. Like many other threads on KF, I'm regretful that my curiosity got the better of me. But not so regretful that I'll never pop back in to gawk at abysmally fucked up people mutilating themselves with hilarious/horrific results. Deserves its own musical theme.
 
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It’s not plug and play, in short. The structures within the pelvis are not discrete and separate - they’re in some cases almost fused (probably the wrong word) or kind of growing into each other. The vagina and the urethra for example - part of the urethra is kind of embedded in the outer layers of the anterior wall of the vagina.
If you opened up a body, it wouldn’t be immediately obvious that the internal parts of the clitoris even existed - they’re not easy to see and they’re closely growing next to, partially in bits of other structures. The internal clitoris structure was only defined properly very recently.
Things like hearts and kidneys, solid organs, are much more ‘separate.’ But things like the gut for example are all wound up in mesentary structures and it’s very hard to dissect out.
I don’t think it would by physically possible to dissect the clitoris out of the pelvis like that and leave it intact enoigh to shove jnto a rot dog - you’d also need to sever the nerves and that’s a very very delicate job to reconnect small nerves and blood vessels. The microsurgery guys who do it are wizards.
Troons think that organs are like Lego - the phrase meat Lego gets thrown around here a lot but a body isnt like that at all in the inside. Only the thoracic solid organs are things you can remove directly (and even then it’s not trivial, there are multiple veins and nerves
thanks for the reply! yeah, that's what i thought would be the main complication, the organs being too intensely interconnected in some way. i read about the clitorial body being connected to the urethra, but thought maybe they could kinda leave a connected piece and cut around it, idk. but yeah, obviously no butcher is gonna retrain as a micro surgeon just to make rotdogs lol

also @AfghanBlue made a good point about the surgery being made for cis men initially; why reinvent the wheel when it keeps the cash flowing in?
 
Due to giving children the same drugs they use to chemically castrate sex offenders, young men don't "develop enough penile tissue for a vaginoplasty".
Instead, the "medical professionals" behind a "landmark study" are now resorting to using pieces of ones own colon in order to create the needed fuckhole.
It goes about as well as you imagine.

Link to article.
 
what I had pushed back into place was my own intestines. And, according to her, I did a pretty good job of it.
This is too blackpilling for me. I don't want to live in a world where a woman can find a surgeon to destroy her body and then casually congratulate herself for rectifying her prolapsed intestines with her fingers as if it wasn't a big deal.
 

Due to giving children the same drugs they use to chemically castrate sex offenders, young men don't "develop enough penile tissue for a vaginoplasty".
Instead, the "medical professionals" behind a "landmark study" are now resorting to using pieces of ones own colon in order to create the needed fuckhole.
It goes about as well as you imagine.

Link to article.
The manuscript begins by saying that the “absence of a functional vagina has a negative effect on the (sexual) quality of life of (transgender) women” and explains that multiple surgical procedures have been described for vaginal “reconstruction” in these patients.

Its not reconstruction if it was never there you absolute lunatics.
 
Pour another one out for all the tomboys getting their boobs chopped off at 13 years old. :drink:

My Son Is Trans. We Live in Texas.
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We had to fight to get top surgery. Now our future here is unclear.​

AS TOLD TO EVAN URQUHART

This is an as-told-to essay based on a conversation with the mother of a 16-year-old trans boy in Texas, where a ban on gender-affirming care for minors recently passed the Legislature and seems close to becoming law. (A grandfather clause that would have allowed minors already receiving this care to continue was recently removed.) This essay has been transcribed, condensed, and lightly edited for clarity. Because of the highly sensitive nature of the medical matters discussed in this piece, the mother and her child are remaining anonymous (we are referring to the child with a pseudonym), and we allowed them both to review the piece prior to publication.

When Reese was 8, he came to me. I was in the bathroom, putting some laundry away. He came in: “Mom, I need to tell you something.” I could tell it was a big deal. I thought he was about to say, “I broke my iPad.”

He was like, “I’m a boy.” I took a beat to process—I was kind of relieved it wasn’t the iPad! I was like, “Well, thank you so much for sharing that with me, and I love you.”

I didn’t know in the moment that what Reese told me would demand something of me as a parent, in terms of advocating for him or helping him get what he needed—I didn’t know any of that. For example, he didn’t bring up anything about pronouns, and we didn’t ask, so we did nothing. I think at some point he must have said, “Will you use he/him for me?” We were uneven at best. Not, like, misgendering him on purpose, but just a failure to understand the importance of it.

I regret my ignorance more than anything else. There were times where Reese did try to talk to me. He said, “I want to get on testosterone.” And I’m like, “What the fuck? You’re 9.”

He’s like, “I want to get top surgery.” And I’m like, “Top? You don’t even have a bra, sir.” I knew that those were things that he was thinking about and believing that he needed, but again, I didn’t understand that this was something we should go see a doctor about. We were accepting, and we thought that was enough.

He got his first period, bless him, literally the second day of school. Ten years old. Fifth grade. And I was like, “Honey, don’t even worry about it. You probably won’t even get another one for a while.”

He got it again the very next month. I could tell that he was upset by it, but I had a hard time understanding that it was related to being trans at all.


One Monday morning a few months later, we were getting ready for school. I was trying to rush out the door, and I went in to check on him. I was like, “What are you doing?” And he goes, “I just took a bunch of pills.” And I was like, “What? What do you mean?” And he was like, “I just took a”—I think he said “a fistful”—of ibuprofen.

From the time he told me that to the time we were getting in the car and driving to the hospital, it couldn’t have been three minutes. I knew it was serious. I wasn’t going to wait around to find out what any of that meant or why.

On the way to the hospital, I said, “What … caused you to do this?” And he goes, “Because I know I’ll never really be a boy.” And let me tell you, I look at that moment and I hate that it took that, but we got real fucking consistent with pronouns after that. I understood, in that moment, all the compounding hurt that had been happening because we weren’t taking it seriously enough.

I reached out to a couple of people I knew to get recommendations and I found a therapist. And bless her: First of all, not only was she good for him, she was probably even more good for me.

She was like, “Look, basically this is so easy to address. We just get him into counseling. We start him on hormones. You get your mind around the fact that you’ve always had a boy; you just didn’t know that you had a boy.” She helped us see that this, actually, even though we were in crisis, it wasn’t a crisis.

He went to therapy every day for a week after the hospital. Not just him going to therapy, also me, my husband, us as a family. Reese was in a much better place after a week, so then he went to therapy twice a week for several months, then it went down to once a week, and then it was once every other week.


The very first thing that we tried medically was to stop the period.

Reese tried birth control, which, God bless him, it somehow made his period even worse. He didn’t stop having a period, he stopped not having a period. Three or four months after that, it was like, “OK, we tried switching medicines a couple of times. Nothing doing. Nothing helped.” And the doctor was like, “OK, well, we could try an IUD.”

Getting that done was such a relief, for him and for us. I didn’t begin to unwind emotionally from the suicide attempt until we had gotten to that point, since having a period precipitated it. That was the first time I remember feeling like I could sleep at night.

He finally began T when he was around 12½. But the [chest] binders that worked when he was 9 are not working anymore when he’s 12. He got some kind of a skin infection. It was really becoming apparent to me that it wasn’t just like he’s having a tough time: He can’t shower anymore.

I was sitting on my patio. I remember he was wearing multiple binders, multiple shirts, a hoodie on top, and he was at a point where he was not coming out of his room.

I remember sitting on the patio, shopping for another binder, and I was like, “You know what? Maybe he doesn’t need some special binder; maybe he needs top surgery.” So I asked him. And he was like, “Oh, you mean like I’ve been saying for three years?”

I love how people think kids are just getting mastectomies left and right. His pediatrician was like, here are the 20 to 30 people in America we think might be willing to hear you out. I called a couple. I called someone in Austin. I called someone, I think, in California. The people that I called in Austin, they must have thought I was Project Veritas. They basically hung up on me. They were like, “How old is the patient? Are you saying this is a 13-year-old that you want to see about having gender-affirming top surgery?” And I was like, “Yes.” And they were like, “Yeah, no. Bye.”

Eventually, we found a surgeon—world-class, low-key but also very brusque, the way surgeons are. All his providers were on board with top surgery, his pediatrician, two psychologists, endocrinologist, and the surgeon himself. We had counseling with multiple providers along the way. We knew what we were getting into. So, yeah. I know 13 is young, but I didn’t feel like it was early. He was young, but it wasn’t too early for him.

Reese’s surgeon put together an argument for the medical ethics board at the children’s hospital: “I’m going to make it so watertight that if they say no, it won’t be because of science or medical ethics. There is no reason that they can point to to say, ‘We don’t know if, in this situation, this is the right clinical approach.’ They will have to say no for other reasons, and then I’m going to push them on that. What are those reasons?”

And then … the hospital ethics board just approved it. So basically, the surgeon prepared this whole thing, but when the people in charge looked at Reese’s case and looked at the situation, everybody approved it.

Now we don’t see the hoodies anymore. He’ll never wear a hoodie ever again. He hates hoodies. Not only does he wear normal clothes now, it helped his social anxiety quite a bit. Like I said, he still has some, but he’s not afraid to be around people looking at him. He has grown his hair out to shoulder-length. He wouldn’t have ever felt comfortable doing that. Now he’s not worried that it’s going to make him look too feminine.

Basically, everything we did allowed him to enter in ninth grade completely socially transitioned, completely medically transitioned, as far as he wants. He’s completely legally transitioned, too. There’s nothing more for him to do. So that’s allowed him to have a high school experience where being trans is not disruptive, not something that he’s preoccupied with. He’s just allowed to be a kid. Reese is doing what every parent would want their kid to be doing. He is enjoying academic success. He’s making friends, good friends. He’s exploring extracurricular interests, he’s a talented artist. He’s flourishing.


How does it feel to see parents who have advocated for far less than we have for Reese, who have been involved in this for far less time than we are, whose kids have been far less “mutilated” or “medicated”—to see these people lose their jobs, become the subjects of an investigation by state power? It’s fucking terrifying.
There were times where Reese did try to talk to me. He said, “I want to get on testosterone.” And I’m like, “What the fuck? You’re 9.”

He’s like, “I want to get top surgery.” And I’m like, “Top? You don’t even have a bra, sir.”
Why does your 9 year-old know about fucking top surgery? Wouldn't you first look at what your child is reading on the internet or who she's talking to? Nope, sorry kid, you're on a one-way ticket to poonerville.
 
“IS MY ROTDOG FALLING OFF? SHOULD I GO TO THE ER?!”

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Nah, King… Looks great! Congrats on the gender euphoria!
Ok say it is just necrosis falling off, say you are that lucky. Then what you've got a roll of fat that is triangle shaped.

FTM didn't bother me that much at first. But fuck everyone of these cunts that entertained these delusions.

You have girls that have had 5 revisions ended up in hospital multiple times but sunk fallacy means they won't warn their ""brothers" in arms that these operations aren't fit for purpose.

And the tattoo yes it looks more real.. in a fucking photo you know like the optical illusion is it. The second you aren't 8 foot away and at the right angle it's going to look just as bad.

Another Brassard client victim, in their own words, is experiencing "bad wound dehiscence with fecal matter discharge", and while complications like this seem to be an everyday occurrence for most post-op troons, this dude seems to have gotten it worse than usual even:



And here's a picture of what came out of him. I suspect his patchwork neovagina graft just essentially failed to take, went necrotic inside his rotpocket, and eventually fell out on its own:



I know this is double post.

But I was just thinking phallo is as bad as it gets but this wins.

Imagine you've done the 7 hours and the most basic foundation part falls out and your smelling shit.

Knowing the doctor is going to pawn you off and say it's cool because they don't want interrupt another surgery that makes them money.

It's a cult.
 
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