Disney General - The saddest fandom on Earth

  • Thread starter Thread starter KO 864
  • Start date Start date

Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

    Votes: 385 26.1%
  • Hunchback 2

    Votes: 53 3.6%
  • A slow death

    Votes: 1,039 70.3%

  • Total voters
    1,477
I'm not watching the trailer, the thumbnail just gives me early-2000s CGI vibes, but sterile. What look are they even trying to go for, anyway?

They are trying to re-create somewhat the coloring styling of the 2D-cels into 3d animation, doing a half-ass between flat colors and render, but I think the goal is to have a art style bridge between the old classic princess movies and the new 3D rendering tech, stuff we have seen them working with line art on 3D a while ago on their paperman short:

p1_disney_paperman_yatzer.jpg


And it ain't just flat colors and line art, Disney is also trying to evoke some of the good ol' visual language from their classics, pay attention to the foliage:

wish.jpg


6a00d8341c98c253ef01a511c4123d970c.jpg


Thing is, Disney migh have big render farms and crankout lavish rendered movies, but artstyle wise, their latest output looks like they are from a decade ago.

Spiderverse, Puss in Boots,Mitchels vs the machines, they all beat Disney soundly when it comes to more interesting visuals, and now they are playing catch up.

But this shit ain't working, this trailers feel so weird, with the line art work on models that are being lavish animated to the point it feels like rotoscope.

Also, the fuck Disney?

wish2.jpg


So they found out the cel-shadding tech from PS2 cutscenes, brave new world here.
 

Attachments

  • Like
Reactions: Lil Miku
They are trying to re-create somewhat the coloring styling of the 2D-cels into 3d animation, doing a half-ass between flat colors and render, but I think the goal is to have a art style bridge between the old classic princess movies and the new 3D rendering tech, stuff we have seen them working with line art on 3D a while ago on their paperman short:

View attachment 5094958

And it ain't just flat colors and line art, Disney is also trying to evoke some of the good ol' visual language from their classics, pay attention to the foliage:

View attachment 5094845

View attachment 5094852

Thing is, Disney migh have big render farms and crankout lavish rendered movies, but artstyle wise, their latest output looks like they are from a decade ago.

Spiderverse, Puss in Boots,Mitchels vs the machines, they all beat Disney soundly when it comes to more interesting visuals, and now they are playing catch up.

But this shit ain't working, this trailers feel so weird, with the line art work on models that are being lavish animated to the point it feels like rotoscope.

Also, the fuck Disney?

View attachment 5094944

So they found out the cel-shadding tech from PS2 cutscenes, brave new world here.
I think the artstyle would work better if they'd just fully embraced the Paperman style and gone with thick lines and painterly coloring and shading on the characters and backgrounds. As it stands, it just looks awkward and trapped between the two mediums, instead of the great balance that was found in Spiderverse, Puss, and MvM.

I will say that the main character is quite pretty, though. I like her design, I just wish that she was in an artstyle that knew what it wanted.
 
Last edited:
  • Agree
Reactions: Trilby
Trailer for the new movie "Wish". Out in November.

Maybe I’m just optimistic, but it feels like a step in the right direction. Not that it’s all the way there, but we have a movie with actual songs. And a real villain. Like, with presence and possibly a song of his own. And they’re not shoving diversity down our throat (yet). And this movie has a style beyond beanmouth or generic CG. I think the last time we got all of that together was either Tangled or Moana, depending on how you look at it (Tamatoa did have presence and charisma for all 15 minutes he was on screen).

So yeah, I’m cautiously optimistic here.
 
Re-watched Lilo & Stitch after about half a decade or so. There really is something special and timeless about this film. You can just feel the raw passion and energy that went into the film. Kind of wish there was a director's cut version showing how the scene with Jumba and Stitch fighting was supposed to take place, but other than that, I adore this film.

Just makes no sense to me why'd they try and remake this film. (Other than insert woke politics I suppose)
 
Trailer for the new movie "Wish". Out in November.

Since the new Disney film apparently takes place in a fantasy Islamic Moorish Spain, expect a new wave of revisionist historical articles claiming that the Moors didn't du nuffin during the Reconquista or that they were significantly black or "the blacks taught the europeans" or any other nonsense.
1682720191088712.png
 
Last edited:
I thought that Wish movie would be set in Latin America, since she was announced as an afro-latina princess, but it apparently is located in Iberia???
So that makes two afro princesses, neither of which have a story that actually takes place IN AFRICA, but one in the USA and one in Europe. I thought the Wish one was at least gonna be part native South American, but apparently not.

Seriously, what does Disney have against actual Africans, are they not marketable enough? The one movie that takes place in Africa has all-animal characters and was the B-movie, and all their other black characters are located somewhere else, dressed in non-African clothing and with modern very basic black hairstyles, basically a melting pot look. (Though this full head of braids is definitely the best one so far)
They keep shoving out of place diversity down our throats but are allergic to actual African culture, in Africa, with an African cast...

Also, idk much about history, but I'm assuming medieval Iberia was not really the melting pot that seems to be in the trailers...
Modern day Spain is only 2% black, but I guess the 98% majority of Spain and Portugal won't get a movie with a princess that actually looks like them dressed in their own traditional clothing. Yet a mysterious lack of outrage about cultural appropriation. 🤔

Is colonisation and erasure of local culture suddenly cool and hip if it's by 'black' Muslims? And what seems to be a native Spaniard man (bc white) is the main villian who has to be defeated by this strong & proud coloniser??
Why even make it take place in fantasy Iberia if you easily could've made it North-ish Africa or something instead?

And how tf is she 'afro-latina' if she's most likely a black arab in an islamitized Spain? How is she even culturally or ethnically relatable to any Latino alive today? Modern Afro-latinas are a mix between Catholic Spanish, Native American and West African, with no connection to Arab/North African culture...
She can't even be a Latin American immigrant, because Latin America did not exist yet, but she's being played by a black Puerto Rican instead of an actual arab or Spaniard because ethnicity doesn't matter, only skin colour. Also the 30 yo actress is dating a woman like 20 years older then her apparently.

Screenshot_20230429-161100_Chrome.jpg

Also, the animation looks like Disney Infinity/Kindom Hearts...
 
Last edited:
Since the new Disney film apparently takes place in a fantasy Islamic Moorish Spain, expect a new wave of revisionist historical articles claiming that the Moors didn't du nuffin during the Reconquista or that they were significantly black or "the blacks taught the europeans" or any other nonsense.
View attachment 5097637
Maybe it's just me, but that castle seems like a white-washed (literally-with paint) version of the castle town from Tangled. 1682791780887.jpeg

More Greek influences to me than Moorish...
 
If this is all we're going to get from these IPs being put in public domain, maybe Disney having a chokehold on them isn't so bad.
Public domain means you have to deal with all the many MANY valleys along with the hills of quality that comes with creative freedom. But its always worth it because the copyright chokehold inhibits all creative freedom, as we are seeing with the sludge pipe of executive ordained manufactured content seeping from Disney's blistered asshole.
 
Public domain means you have to deal with all the many MANY valleys along with the hills of quality that comes with creative freedom. But its always worth it because the copyright chokehold inhibits all creative freedom, as we are seeing with the sludge pipe of executive ordained manufactured content seeping from Disney's blistered asshole.
I'd rather have nothing than "Haha, what if these characters from kid stuff did drugs and killed people???"
 
View attachment 5099761
Oh ffs not again, the Winnie the Pooh horror movie flopped do we really need another one of these?
What's with Winnie the Pooh but with an edgy twist or Christopher Robin but middle aged? Why can't Winnie the Pooh just unironically be Winnie the Pooh?
 
Back