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guiltyspark85 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc7CIkZcWYE

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I haven’t seen this video covered here, so I thought I’d post about it.

A couple of days ago LTT released a video on purchasing a cheap 2nd hand PC and upgrading the components to turn into a cheap gaming PC. They’ve done this type of video several times before, but the spin this time is installing a Windows 10 debloater called AtlasOS.

What they gloss over in the video, is by default AtlasOS ‘debloats’ Windows 10 by turning off important security features, such as spectre/meltdown mitigation and UAC (everything runs with admin privileges). Windows updates and Defender are also removed entirely and can’t be re-enabled.

They do mention the updates removal, but Anthony says that beyond this he doesn’t really know what else AtlasOS does as he hasn’t really looked into it. In editing, they’ve added text listing some of the security issues, but it’s only flashes on the screen for only few seconds and it’s unlikely many LTT viewers would bother pausing the video to read it.

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Linus is blown away by how much more responsive Windows seems, but of course they haven't bothered doing any benchmarks. The anecdotal performance improvements I suspect are due to AtlasOS turning off Windows shell animations and disabling the spectre/meltdown mitigation.

All around very irresponsible not inserting some strong warnings explaining AtlasOS is comprising the OS security.
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all "debloaters" are autistic shit for autistic retards
 
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They did more server faggotry and seem to have 4 up and running, and it felt like I was hearing a snake oil salesman tell me why this time it totally works. I find this overhaul odd since they're looking for a full time senior IT guy but went ahead with what looks like more jank before the new guy comes in and has to use the existing. I just don't trust Jake at all in what he does.
 
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snov said:
Disabling Spectre/Meltdown mitigations on older Intel systems is a huge performance boost
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And even that is easier on Linux:
kernel parameter: mitigations=off


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                                Disable all optional CPU mitigations.  This
                                improves system performance, but it may also
                                expose users to several CPU vulnerabilities.
                                Equivalent to: nopti [X86,PPC]
                                               if nokaslr then kpti=0 [ARM64]
                                               nospectre_v1 [X86,PPC]
                                               nobp=0 [S390]
                                               nospectre_v2 [X86,PPC,S390,ARM64]
                                               spectre_v2_user=off [X86]
                                               spec_store_bypass_disable=off [X86,PPC]
                                               ssbd=force-off [ARM64]
                                               nospectre_bhb [ARM64]
                                               l1tf=off [X86]
                                               mds=off [X86]
                                               tsx_async_abort=off [X86]
                                               kvm.nx_huge_pages=off [X86]
                                               srbds=off [X86,INTEL]
                                               no_entry_flush [PPC]
                                               no_uaccess_flush [PPC]
                                               mmio_stale_data=off [X86]
                                               retbleed=off [X86]

                                Exceptions:
                                               This does not have any effect on
                                               kvm.nx_huge_pages when
                                               kvm.nx_huge_pages=force.
 
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Pinochet Was Right said:
all "debloaters" are autistic shit for autistic retards
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"Attempting to stop a giant tech company from phoning all of your data home is retarded" is not a take I entirely expected on here but I guess was inevitable. LTT is dumb but all threads predicated on personal dislike for the lolcow/lolcommunity end up with some enormously stupid alogging.
 
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Pissmaster said:
All of this talk about how terrible AtlasOS is, and the very first bullet point they made, where it disables restore points, was enough for me to nope out. Why the hell would you ever disable such a vital safety net?
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Linus Media Group: *have experienced numerous file server failures within the span of a year* I HAVE NO IDEA!
 
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Pissmaster said:
All of this talk about how terrible AtlasOS is, and the very first bullet point they made, where it disables restore points, was enough for me to nope out. Why the hell would you ever disable such a vital safety net?
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NT “restore points” aren’t snapshots, they actually suck. If Microsoft ever got around to switching over to ReFS they could do basic modern features like this properly, but as long as they stay on NTFS they’ll be stuck with late 90s capabilities.
 
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Smaug's Smokey Hole 2 said:
The modern ones can be perfectly fine and 95% of what matters to the personal computer user is the read speed, not the write speed.
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Interesting. I'm in long term plans for building a PC rn, glad that the tech has matured enough that even cheap drives are pretty good
 
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Interesting. I'm in long term plans for building a PC rn, glad that the tech has matured enough that even cheap drives are pretty good
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Cheap SATA SSDs are satisfactory, especially as a 2nd drive for storing games or whatever, but you should absolutely get an NVMe drive as an OS drive in my opinion as they're very cheap now and absolutely blow SATA SSDs to smithereens in terms of performance.
 
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Flaming Dumpster said:
Cheap SATA SSDs are satisfactory, especially as a 2nd drive for storing games or whatever, but you should absolutely get an NVMe drive as an OS drive in my opinion as they're very cheap now and absolutely blow SATA SSDs to smithereens in terms of performance.
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Oh I fully agree, a M.2. Drive is great for a boot and applications you want running fast
 
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Pissmaster said:
All of this talk about how terrible AtlasOS is, and the very first bullet point they made, where it disables restore points, was enough for me to nope out. Why the hell would you ever disable such a vital safety net?
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I have been using Windows for decades and not once have Restore Points been a solution to my problem.
 
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Homoshrexual2 said:
I have been using Windows for decades and not once have Restore Points been a solution to my problem.
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When the Blaster worm happened I unplugged the ethernet cable, went back to a prior restore point, blocked what was relevant, plugged it back in and went back to doing what I was doing. The XP system restore point made it a five minute problem. They can work very nicely.
 
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Toolbox said:
"Attempting to stop a giant tech company from phoning all of your data home is retarded" is not a take I entirely expected on here but I guess was inevitable. LTT is dumb but all threads predicated on personal dislike for the lolcow/lolcommunity end up with some enormously stupid alogging.
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No, debloating really is fucking stupid. 5% of that script is preventing phoning home while the rest is disabling security features and uninstalling a bunch of stuff the developers don't understand, leaving your system in a state that Microsoft has never ever tested. It'll be a buggy mess.

But that's not even the worst part. It disables Windows update. This is about as dumb as removing a seatbelt in your Honda civic to save weight.

So if you just want to try to block phoning home use something targeted towards that instead of chainsawing out random pieces from the bowels of Windows. Here are a few.
  1. https://github.com/crazy-max/WindowsSpyBlocker
  2. https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
(It was reckless for Linus/Anthony to recommend that full stop. Their audience is a bunch of kids who will install that shit and inevitably get owned)
 
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No, debloating really is fucking stupid. 5% of that script is preventing phoning home while the rest is disabling security features and uninstalling a bunch of stuff the developers don't understand, leaving your system in a state that Microsoft has never ever tested. It'll be a buggy mess.

But that's not even the worst part. It disables Windows update. This is about as dumb as removing a seatbelt in your Honda civic to save weight.

So if you just want to try to block phoning home use something targeted towards that instead of chainsawing out random pieces from the bowels of Windows. Here are a few.
  1. https://github.com/crazy-max/WindowsSpyBlocker
  2. https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
(It was reckless for Linus/Anthony to recommend that full stop. Their audience is a bunch of kids who will install that shit and inevitably get owned)
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The tool is stupid and LTT are reckless, yes. Debloating as a concept is not which is what I was saying. That said, a few of the 'necessary security features' the tool supposedly disables are not particularly necessary for most users even if you aren't an expert. I do agree that the tool is seriously flawed as has already been argued.
 
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It's funny to see the differences between LTT and other tech channels when actual shit is happening. Right now there's an issue with AM5 boards/ chips failing atm. GN gathers parts for testing, visits AMD and other partners for more info to figure things out.

LTT makes....more dumb videos.

I will say, GN should spend less time talking about how "we got it figured out guys, stay tuned for the video!" and actually post some quick bullet points for now so people can mitigate any potential issues sooner rather than later. Then watch the video later for a complete deep dive into it.
 
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